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11 yr/old drag kid worshiped within LGBTQ community (Mod warning op)

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    #572
    Omackeral
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    The irony is that it's a total lack of care. All children should be afforded care.


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    #573
    Zorya
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    Omackeral wrote: »
    This is the same mother that insisted he was introduced as gay at pre-school when he was a 3 year old. Some kids are still in bloody pull up nappies at that age. She's obviously not right in the head. Creepy unfit wagon of a ''mom'. Yet she'll still have her supporters among the fringes. Shameful carry on.



    I think there is an element of Munchausen-by-proxy is some of these people.


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    #574
    DontThankMe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭DontThankMe


    Defaulter1831 wrote: »
    Don't Thank Me

    Whatever forum you ever appear on again you'll forever be seen as either a troll or someone who holds ideas detrimental to the protection of children. That's about as mild as I can put it without receiving an infraction.

    If that's how someone with a different opinion from the majority is viewed then so be it.


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    #575
    retro:electro
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    DontThankMe wrote: »
    If that's how someone with a different opinion from the majority is viewed then so be it.

    It’s not just a different opinion though. It’s the passive enabling of casual child abuse that people have an issue with. I can respect opposing opinions, but ones that compromise the welfare of minors, well that’s a no brainier.


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    #576
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Don't be so dishonest. A different opinion is fine - we all have different opinions. An opinion that glosses over and rationalises child exploitation is the issue here, and that's hardly irrational.

    Shur "It's just a different opinion" could be said about all kinds of dreadful ideologies.


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    #577
    end of the road
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    DontThankMe wrote: »
    I believe his mother when she said it's what he wants to do. Have you got evidence or proof of him being conditioned to do it?

    he's an 11 year old child. most 11 year old children aren't in clubs at 4am twerking and having money thrown at them. they also don't have their sexuality determined by their parents at 3 years old.
    for god sake i didn't even know what drag performing or even drag was at 11, i didn't know what gay was when i was 3. i presume most children would be and would have been the same, you know, because we were children and it wasn't something we needed to know until an appropriate time.
    so yeah, i'd suggest that should be evidence enough that he has been conditioned to do this rather then he actually wants to do it, and even if he wants to do it, it's not responsible parenting to pander to his wishes.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #578
    DontThankMe
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    Omackeral wrote: »
    This is the same mother that insisted he was introduced as gay at pre-school when he was a 3 year old. Some kids are still in bloody pull up nappies at that age. She's obviously not right in the head. Creepy unfit wagon of a ''mom'. Yet she'll still have her supporters among the fringes. Shameful carry on.

    And what did she have to gain by telling him that he was gay at 3 years old. Was this all part of her master plan to create a money making machine by getting him to be a drag performer and doing interviews with the media because, I'm fairly sure that's how a lot of the posters in here see it. Yet I'm being the ridiculous one?


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    #579
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    DontThankMe wrote: »
    And what did she have to gain by telling him that he was gay at 3 years old.

    Hold the phone a second. Do you think that is in any way normal? It's fcuking wrong.


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    #580
    DontThankMe
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    retro:electro wrote: »
    It’s not just a different opinion though. It’s the passive enabling of casual child abuse that people have an issue with. I can respect opposing opinions, but ones that compromise the welfare of minors, well that’s a no brainier.

    But there is no evidence to support the claims that this is casual child abuse. That's how people see it but it doesn't make it the truth.


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    #581
    Gimme A Pound
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    Just being up at all hours of the night should be enough to warrant criticism. Staying up very late is not good for children. Is the kid not shattered.


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    #582
    The Talking Bread
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    Omackeral wrote: »
    This is the same mother that insisted he was introduced as gay at pre-school when he was a 3 year old. Some kids are still in bloody pull up nappies at that age. She's obviously not right in the head. Creepy unfit wagon of a ''mom'. Yet she'll still have her supporters among the fringes. Shameful carry on.

    Sure it was the toddler's choice to declare himself as a homosexual at 2 and then to his teacher and friends. He had full control of this decision...................... There is nothing illegal about it so no problem


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    #583
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Seriously, imagine someone coming up to you and saying ''this is my 3 year old son, he's gay.''


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    #584
    Omackeral
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    Omackeral wrote: »
    Seriously, imagine someone coming up to you and saying ''this is my 3 year old son, he's gay.''

    Or ''this is my 11 year old son, he twerks in gay bars at 4am for tips.''


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    #585
    How Soon Is Now
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    DontThankMe wrote: »
    And what did she have to gain by telling him that he was gay at 3 years old. Was this all part of her master plan to create a money making machine by getting him to be a drag performer and doing interviews with the media because, I'm fairly sure that's how a lot of the posters in here see it. Yet I'm being the ridiculous one?

    The mother is an unstable individual who let's her twisted politics take over basic parenting.

    You see it all time with these young kids who know and act in ways most other kids have no idea about its thr parents or parent making them into something that they wouldn't of been otherwise.

    Ffs you would have a dog taken off of you if you didn't look after it and it ran wild yet people like this are allowed to ruin children's life's for the sake of there own warped views.


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    #586
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Defaulter1831 wrote: »
    Don't Thank Me

    Whatever forum you ever appear on again you'll forever be seen as either a troll or someone who holds ideas detrimental to the protection of children. That's about as mild as I can put it without receiving an infraction.

    I believe the term wrong'un is used by our friends across the Irish sea.


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    #587
    Zorya
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    DontThankMe wrote: »
    And what did she have to gain by telling him that he was gay at 3 years old. Was this all part of her master plan to create a money making machine by getting him to be a drag performer and doing interviews with the media because, I'm fairly sure that's how a lot of the posters in here see it. Yet I'm being the ridiculous one?

    Attention.

    Regular well-balanced people don't go around saying Oh My Gorsh, my child is straight, a straight child, I tells ya!

    Why the heck would Desmond's mother have announced at his kindergarten that he is gay. Who gives a toss.

    Anyway, what does being gay or straight mean? It means having a sexual attraction to the same or the opposite sex. What parent is hyping their child's sexual preference at THREE!? Or even at 7 or 11 or feck it all the way up till they are old enough to actually grasp what sexual interaction means. Meaningfully, like.

    Who cares what kid is gay or straight. The fact that this kid is put out there - on national TV - as a symbol of the free expression of gay or trans kids - actually says a whole lot more than this is a ''drag kid''.

    The whole thing is premature sexualisation. It's the message. All of it. Sheesh.


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    #588
    The Talking Bread
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    DontThankMe wrote: »
    And what did she have to gain by telling him that he was gay at 3 years old. Was this all part of her master plan to create a money making machine by getting him to be a drag performer and doing interviews with the media because, I'm fairly sure that's how a lot of the posters in here see it. Yet I'm being the ridiculous one?

    Very very probably. In fact this is clearly the case. He was brought to drag shows at that age so there was a definite grooming and influencing of his lifestyle, personality, behaviour.
    The parents are whoring him out and benefiting very well financially from him.


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    #589
    DontThankMe
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    end of the road wrote: »
    he's an 11 year old child. most 11 year old children aren't in clubs at 4am twerking and having money thrown at them. they also don't have their sexuality determined by their parents at 3 years old.
    for god sake i didn't even know what drag performing or even drag was at 11, i didn't know what gay was when i was 3. i presume most children would be and would have been the same, you know, because we were children and it wasn't something we needed to know until an appropriate time.
    so yeah, i'd suggest that should be evidence enough that he has been conditioned to do this rather then he actually wants to do it, and even if he wants to do it, it's not responsible parenting to pander to his wishes.

    But he wasn't twerking in the club he was jumping and walking up and down no twerking in the video linked in the OP. How do we know that the parents of child determined his sexuality at the age of 3? Is it not possible for him to make that decision for himself. Do you know at what age or how every child determines their sexuality? Each case is different and no two children are alike.


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    #590
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    DontThankMe wrote: »
    And what did she have to gain by telling him that he was gay at 3 years old. Was this all part of her master plan to create a money making machine by getting him to be a drag performer and doing interviews with the media because, I'm fairly sure that's how a lot of the posters in here see it. Yet I'm being the ridiculous one?
    Why is that so far fetched in the case of a woman whose child twerks at an adult night club extremely late at night, aged seven years younger than the age people are permitted entry to such clubs? Or is it ten years younger when 21 is the legal age to drink?


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    #591
    The Talking Bread
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    DontThankMe wrote: »
    But he wasn't twerking in the club he was jumping and walking up and down no twerking in the video linked in the OP. How do we know that the parents of child determined his sexuality at the age of 3? Is it not possible for him to make that decision for himself. Do you know at what age or how every child determines their sexuality? Each case is different and no two children are alike.

    No it isn't. You clearly need a biology lesson as well as psyciatric checkup.


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    #592
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    DontThankMe wrote: »
    How do we know that the parents of child determined his sexuality at the age of 3? Is it not possible for him to make that decision for himself.

    No, he was 3 years of poxy age, probably still in nappies. What the fcuk is wrong with you?


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    #593
    Plumbthedepths
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    Folks I genuinely believe ye are being trolled. Just put him/ her on ignore.


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    #594
    DontThankMe
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    Kenna Fresh Teflon wrote: »
    Why is that so far fetched in the case of a woman whose child twerks at an adult night club extremely late at night, aged seven years younger than the age people are permitted entry to such clubs? Or is it ten years younger when 21 is the legal age to drink?

    Because she has the best interests of the child in her mind and she is allowing him to express himself. Therefore, there is no malice in her actions and she is not using him for her own personal gain.


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    #595
    The Talking Bread
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Folks I genuinely believe ye are being trolled. Just put him/ her on ignore.

    100%

    Figured this out a couple of hours ago.


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    #596
    end of the road
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    DontThankMe wrote: »
    And what did she have to gain by telling him that he was gay at 3 years old.

    i don't know, nor care. but i do know it's not normal and it is wrong. children need to be able to find and discover their own sexuality, not have it determined by their parents.
    DontThankMe wrote: »
    Was this all part of her master plan to create a money making machine by getting him to be a drag performer and doing interviews with the media because, I'm fairly sure that's how a lot of the posters in here see it.

    it certainly looks like it, yes.
    DontThankMe wrote: »
    Yet I'm being the ridiculous one?

    with respect yes . you are saying that because he supposibly wants to do it then it's okay. it's not okay. you are saying because his mother says something it's true and it's fine. it's not fine.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #597
    retro:electro
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    DontThankMe wrote: »
    But there is no evidence to support the claims that this is casual child abuse. That's how people see it but it doesn't make it the truth.

    If you have eyes that’s evidence enough for most


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    #598
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    100%

    Figured this out a couple of hours ago.
    Thank christ too. Then again there are enough oddballs out there.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #599
    end of the road
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    DontThankMe wrote: »
    But he wasn't twerking in the club he was jumping and walking up and down no twerking in the video linked in the OP. How do we know that the parents of child determined his sexuality at the age of 3? Is it not possible for him to make that decision for himself. Do you know at what age or how every child determines their sexuality? Each case is different and no two children are alike.


    at 3 years old, no it is not possible for one to make the decisian about sexuality for themselves. both legally and mentally. each case is different and no child are alike is just whataboutery tbh.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #600
    retro:electro
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    DontThankMe wrote: »
    Is it not possible for him to make that decision for himself. Do you know at what age or how every child determines their sexuality?

    You don’t have the self awareness at 3 years old to know whether you’re gay, straight or Australian. My 3 year old niece thinks she’s a dog. My sister does in her hole introduce her as a dog to everyone she meets. Absolute turbo shlte you’re coming out with. Wind up.


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    #601
    Ulysses Gaze
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    DontThankMe wrote: »
    But he wasn't twerking in the club he was jumping and walking up and down no twerking in the video linked in the OP. How do we know that the parents of child determined his sexuality at the age of 3? Is it not possible for him to make that decision for himself. Do you know at what age or how every child determines their sexuality? Each case is different and no two children are alike.

    What next DontThankMe. What if the 3 year old can determine their sexuality and then verbalises consent, would that make it ok in your book for an adult to sleep with them?

    ****ing hell this thread.....


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