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wotzgoingon

Skerries wrote: »

did you do any 3D Mark testing before you upgraded?

I done many testing different days but I never ran Firestrix with the new 5700 XT.

I only ordered the parts yesterday. Hopefully they arrive at least middle of the week but realistically they better arrive before Friday.

wotzgoingon

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Can't say I have had the same experience.

Really. What problems did you have?

z0oT

My experience with Gigabyte has usually been good.

The only issues I've had in the relatively long list of their motherboards I've had that I can think of would be:

• Their supplied integrated audio drive causing bluescreens in Windows XP with the 790FX board I had. Solved with a later driver.
• The system locking up and failing to boot if an M.2 was installed and CSM was enabled with the new X570 board I have. It was solved a few BIOS revisions back.

Cuddlesworth

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Really. What problems did you have?

3 DOA's on x99 boards, forums had a bunch of people with the same problem.

Headshot

I'm getting that upgrade bug guys lol

Tempted to get:
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FTW3

How much would I get for the following:

MSI GeForce GTX 1080Ti Gaming
AMD RYZEN 7 2700X

All bought in Oct 2018

EoinHef

Where you based headshot?

Depending on the above Id be interested in the 1080 Ti,for that reason i wont suggest a price but if you do sell let me know what your looking for it.

PostWoke

Some Virgin contracts seem to block any connection to torrent programs like qbittorrent; anyone know any way around that? AFAIK they're not really supposed to do that, plenty of legit content is released via torrent, like open source software, and mods...

MiskyBoyy

PostWoke wrote: »

Some Virgin contracts seem to block any connection to torrent programs like qbittorrent; anyone know any way around that? AFAIK they're not really supposed to do that, plenty of legit content is released via torrent, like open source software, and mods...

VPN?

PostWoke

MiskyBoyy wrote: »

VPN?

I think it's more they're blocking a specific port or something? I dunno if a VPN would get around that, plus it would slow the connection down.

wotzgoingon

My Ryzen system parts arrived yesterday except for case and cooler which arrived today. I just kept the stock cooler for now as it looks good imo and with a custom fan curve it is fine. At stock it ramped up and down every so often.

I have it setup to run at 4.4Ghz but it doesn't actually run at that as the bclk when set to 100 goes t0 99.80 for some reason. I'm pretty new to Ryzen so I will have to look into that but afaik it's pretty normal.

I ran a quick timespy bench and again my 5700 XT is not a great overclocker on core.

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/8733627

K.O.Kiki

So looks like Arctic has quietly released their new Liquid Freezer II lineup.




Prices are much lower than competitors, e.g. NZXT
model|radiator size | price (£GB)
Arctic Liquid II|120|50
NZXT M22|120|70
NZXT X42|140|100
Arctic Liquid II|240|60
NZXT X52|240|100
Arctic Liquid II|280|70
NZXT X62|280|135
Arctic Liquid II|360|80
NZXT X72|360|160


I've bought the 280 to see how it does against my Noctua NH-U14S.

z0oT

https://pcper.com/2019/10/intel-reveals-x-series-processor-pricing-availability/

Big price cuts coming on the new HEDT stuff from Intel - 18 cores for less than 1k USD. They don't look nearly as bad with the new pricing, but I suspect Threadripper 3 will give you way more for your money when it launches.

Given Intel posted a plot of a large increase in performance/$, since performance wasn't going to move massively the only thing that could accomplish that would be a large price cut which is what's happened.

Cuddlesworth

z0oT wrote: »

https://pcper.com/2019/10/intel-reveals-x-series-processor-pricing-availability/

Big price cuts coming on the new HEDT stuff from Intel - 18 cores for less than 1k USD. They don't look nearly as bad with the new pricing, but I suspect Threadripper 3 will give you way more for your money when it launches.

Given Intel posted a plot of a large increase in performance/$, since performance wasn't going to move massively the only thing that could accomplish that would be a large price cut which is what's happened.

Would make you wonder what the profit margin was on the previous processors that they can drop the price by 50% with no real process change.

I suspect that with the way the AMD processors are made, they can drop the price of a 32 core threadripper to match these 18 core Intel processors and still have a healthy profit margin.

And in the server market, the large vendors are slamming AMD out of it with orders. The 7002 EYPC server processors are in another league, Intel could drop prices by 50% and still be priced out of the market.

PostWoke

Another user had an Enermax AIO issue last month, looks like Enermax is using toilet water in their AIO's lol

K.O.Kiki

Latest Windows 10 update has bricked my system. Won't get past the blue logo.
Fvck.

UPDATE
I plugged in my Windows 10 install key... and it just worked, booted right into Windows.
WTF

Solitaire

1903? Or the September update meant to fix it? Or the new Hotfix meant to fix the September update? (which is also broken and is now waiting on a hotfix for its hotfix)

Headshot

Guys what 2080 TI card would you recommend.?

I'm looking at the

EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA GAMING

M00lers

Headshot wrote: »

Guys what 2080 TI card would you recommend.?

I'm looking at the

EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA GAMING

Hard to go wrong with an EVGA card.

K.O.Kiki

Headshot wrote: »

Guys what 2080 TI card would you recommend.?

I'm looking at the

EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA GAMING

At this price point & power output, I'd say it's foolish not to get a water-cooled design.
Gigabyte's Waterforce has an integrated 240mm AIO with RGB lights & a 4 year warranty.
MSI & EVGA have models with 120mm AIO.

There's also the cards from MSI & Gigabyte with a custom-loop compatible waterblock installed.

If you don't fancy watercooled, get one of the MSI triple-fan models (Duke or Gaming X Trio) or Asus Strix for low-noise.

There's also this PNY triple-fan which is the cheapest I've found: https://www.amazon.co.uk/PNY-GeForce%C2%AE-2080-GAMING-TRIPLE/dp/B07GJ7TV8L/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=2080ti&qid=1570477051&refinements=p_36%3A-105000&rnid=428432031&s=computers&sr=1-3
And if the cooler sucks, get an NZXT Kraken G12 bracket & Kraken X52 240mm AIO and slap them on yourself.

Headshot

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

At this price point & power output, I'd say it's foolish not to get a water-cooled design.
Gigabyte's Waterforce has an integrated 240mm AIO with RGB lights & a 4 year warranty.
MSI & EVGA have models with 120mm AIO.

There's also the cards from MSI & Gigabyte with a custom-loop compatible waterblock installed.

If you don't fancy watercooled, get one of the MSI triple-fan models (Duke or Gaming X Trio) or Asus Strix for low-noise.

There's also this PNY triple-fan which is the cheapest I've found: https://www.amazon.co.uk/PNY-GeForce%C2%AE-2080-GAMING-TRIPLE/dp/B07GJ7TV8L/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=2080ti&qid=1570477051&refinements=p_36%3A-105000&rnid=428432031&s=computers&sr=1-3
And if the cooler sucks, get an NZXT Kraken G12 bracket & Kraken X52 240mm AIO and slap them on yourself.

This the Gigabyte one you're talking about?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/gigabyte-aorus-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-xtreme-aio-11264mb-gddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-1ak-gi.html

Looks very interested, must find some reviews on it

.G.

I've a Gaming X Trio, can't fault it. Really good cooler on it. Obviously water would be better but as air coolers go its very good.

Venom

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

At this price point & power output, I'd say it's foolish not to get a water-cooled design.
Gigabyte's Waterforce has an integrated 240mm AIO with RGB lights & a 4 year warranty.
MSI & EVGA have models with 120mm AIO.

There's also the cards from MSI & Gigabyte with a custom-loop compatible waterblock installed.

If you don't fancy watercooled, get one of the MSI triple-fan models (Duke or Gaming X Trio) or Asus Strix for low-noise.

The MSI cards, especially the Gaming x Trio's are beasts when it comes to the hardware and 100% silent even under load but their software is absolute fúcking garbage the likes of which I've not seen in a long time. At the most basic level of just trying to change the color of the cards RGB settings, it just doesn't work. I've had to uninstall and reinstall the software every other day and 9 times out of 10 it just doesn't work. The Dragon Centre software that you have to use with the RTX cards, not only installs a ton of other companies RGB software such as Galax's but it also overrides your computers power-saving settings. The MSI support forums are riddled with users complaining about these issues, with the forums mods banning non-abusive customers and closing treads. My last 3 GPU's have all been MSI but my next one sure as hell won't be.

PostWoke

.G. wrote: »

Obviously water would be better

Not particularly.

Good to see the first details of the 5500, sucks that there's no price yet. Outlets are saying 150 might be a good price... I think that's optimistic. I'm also curious about how Red Dead 2 will perform on it.

K.O.Kiki

PostWoke wrote: »

Not particularly.

Water on GPU is ALWAYS better performance, no exceptions.

Cuddlesworth

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Water on GPU is ALWAYS better performance, no exceptions.

Honestly, I would pay more for EVGA's support model on a top end card like that for a minor feature reduction.

K.O.Kiki

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Honestly, I would pay more for EVGA's support model on a top end card like that for a minor feature reduction.

EVGA have 3 water-cooled cards themselves, though they only use 120mm radiators on the AIO models.

PostWoke

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Water on GPU is ALWAYS better performance, no exceptions.

Nope.

He also said 'better' as in a better choice in general, which is a sum of a number of variables. Including failure, and features like no-spin on air coolers when under a certain temperature. Better for cooler airflow in the case in general too, irrespective of your configuration. You're either pumping hot air directly out of the case which takes up fan space that could be pushing air through the case, or you're pushing already warm air through your case.

K.O.Kiki

PostWoke wrote: »

Nope.

He also said 'better' as in a better choice in general, which is a sum of a number of variables. Including failure, and features like no-spin on air coolers when under a certain temperature. Better for cooler airflow in the case in general too, irrespective of your configuration. You're either pumping hot air directly out of the case which takes up fan space that could be pushing air through the case, or you're pushing already warm air through your case.

I once plugged out the AIO fan on my 980 Ti by accident, but played games anyway.
It didn't throttle, just got hot (80C or so after 2-3hrs).

You're also misunderstanding that AIO can be run with MUCH lower fans than air heatsink for the same performance - thus lower noise.

But w/e, you've made up your mind that "water = bad" and I'm not gonna bother showing you more data.

.G.

Venom wrote: »

The MSI cards, especially the Gaming x Trio's are beasts when it comes to the hardware and 100% silent even under load but their software is absolute fúcking garbage the likes of which I've not seen in a long time. At the most basic level of just trying to change the color of the cards RGB settings, it just doesn't work. I've had to uninstall and reinstall the software every other day and 9 times out of 10 it just doesn't work. The Dragon Centre software that you have to use with the RTX cards, not only installs a ton of other companies RGB software such as Galax's but it also overrides your computers power-saving settings. The MSI support forums are riddled with users complaining about these issues, with the forums mods banning non-abusive customers and closing treads. My last 3 GPU's have all been MSI but my next one sure as hell won't be.

MSI Mystic light is what I used to set the colour of my 2080ti. Worked without issue. It and afterburner are all I installed from MSI.

.G.

PostWoke wrote: »

Nope.

He also said 'better' as in a better choice in general, which is a sum of a number of variables. Including failure, and features like no-spin on air coolers when under a certain temperature. Better for cooler airflow in the case in general too, irrespective of your configuration. You're either pumping hot air directly out of the case which takes up fan space that could be pushing air through the case, or you're pushing already warm air through your case.

I meant better as in better temps and generally quieter but my air cooled one is very quiet anyway.