Off-Topic Thread V3.0

jebidiah

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

RX 580 8Gb & GTX 1060 6Gb are actually back down to €215-250 range (RX 570/580 4Gb are below 200).

The slightly better RX 590 is €275-290

I've also spotted this GTX 1070 for €300
https://www.caseking.de/inno3d-geforce-gtx-1070-twin-x2-8192-mb-gddr5-gci3-092.html?sPartner=185&utm_source=geizhals&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=geizhals&campaign=psm/geizhals&wt_mc=preisvergleich.geizhals.feed
which would blow all 3 above out of the water.

Having said that - for 1080p or even 1440p @60fps in the majority of titles the GTX 970's 3.5Gb VRAM is sufficient for now.
Just make sure to overclock it.

CES 2019 is 8-12. January & will hopefully have new GPU announcements, too.

He is being advised to wait till summer. New AMD cards etc. But you know yourself, sometimes people just want to spend, now! He's off to Ranelagh to pick up a strix 970 for €130.

On a side note how much better are the more reputable brands like Asus etc to Inno3D and Zotac? I see a lot of folks picking up those cheaper cards online and being happy out.

K.O.Kiki

Asus, MSI, EVGA etc. earn their reputation by having better coolers, PCBs, reliability and/or customer service.

E.g. Palit Jetstream/GameRock are arguably one of the best coolers you can get for Nvidia - quiet & cool (due to being 2.5 slot).
However if I were to buy myself... I'd probably pay extra for an EVGA.

Solitaire

And it continues!! A big thanks to jebidiah who decided he couldn't wait just a few more hours and hit 10k just before midnight, the cad :P

wotzgoingon

v3.0 is a better naming scheme.....

MiskyBoyy

Agreed, first thing I noticed was MK3 and thought ewh. Makes me think of my Ford

wotzgoingon

MiskyBoyy wrote: »

Agreed, first thing I noticed was MK3 and thought ewh. Makes me think of my Ford

I also thought of a car but VW Golf.

Inquitus

At the going rate it will be early 2023 by the time we hit 10k again in this one, wonder what hardware we will be discussing then!

AlmightyCushion

wotzgoingon wrote: »

v3.0 is a better naming scheme.....

V3.0 RGB edition RTX enabled.

SickBoy

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

V3.0 RGB edition RTX enabled.

And patched for Spectre and Meltdown.

Mr Crispy

Happy new years folks.

Any recommendations for a mouse to use with a laptop for productivity stuff (rather than mobile gaming)? Something on the smaller/lighter side but still reasonably comfortable to use... At the moment I'm thinking about the Logitech MX Anywhere 2. Can I do better for the money?

Inviere

wotzgoingon wrote: »

v3.0 is a better naming scheme.....

I was hoping for the 1.3 patch

Redfox25

Whats a decent internal 3TB or 4TB HDD brand these days?
My old 1TB is full of photos and videos and looking for more space with something reliable.
Games are on a SSD so speed isnt massively important.

Thanks in advance folks.

MiskyBoyy

Redfox25 wrote:

Whats a decent internal 3TB or 4TB HDD brand these days? My old 1TB is full of photos and videos and looking for more space with something reliable. Games are on a SSD so speed isnt massively important.

Liking the look of Seagate Ironwolf myself. Made for NAS but can work as "normal" drive too.

h0neybadger

in my gaming system, I've got 4 SSD's. 2 x 120gb and 2 x 250gb ones.
Sometimes it's a pain in the hoop selecting where Steam can install..

Any downside to using Windows Storage Space and creating a simple pool?

Solitaire

wotzgoingon wrote: »

v3.0 is a better naming scheme.....

MiskyBoyy wrote: »

Agreed, first thing I noticed was MK3 and thought ewh. Makes me think of my Ford

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

V3.0 RGB edition RTX enabled.

Yeah I was tempted to be a bit silly and name them all a bit differently from each other from now on but given that it generally takes 4 years to finish just one thread and given how quickly I've triggered everyone's OCD (including my own) it would end up the slowest and most forced running joke in the history of everything forever

SickBoy

h0neybadger wrote: »

in my gaming system, I've got 4 SSD's. 2 x 120gb and 2 x 250gb ones.
Sometimes it's a pain in the hoop selecting where Steam can install..

Any downside to using Windows Storage Space and creating a simple pool?

Storage spaces would work but is a bit overcomplicated for what you're suggesting.
You could always create Software raid 0 and get the benefit of the additional space and speed...

..as long as you don't intend to put mission critical data on the raid 0 of course

ED E

I wouldnt. Given the sudden nature of SSD demise it'd be a right tit to recover a fail instead of just planning a little.

Many games really don't benefit much from SSD, I put most on spinning rust and just those that need it (Star Citizen say) on flash.

Alpha8

Found a good deal on some parts from CCL Computers. Anyone use them before?



Site : https://www.cclonline.com/

K.O.Kiki

CCL are legit as far as I know.

BArra

no issues with CCL, bought an NZXT S340 Elite case, no problems whatsoever

Lu Tze

Leaks appearing for the Ryzen 3000 lineup. Mad to think that after nearly decade of normal desktop CPUs topping out at 4 core/8 thread, in the space of 2 years it may be going to 16 core/32 thread.

Big jump in a short space of time, great for those who can use the extra cores!

I'm still running a 3770, not sure I will be jumping anytime soon, unless Im doing more hydraulic modelling at home, which is about the only thing I run that would make use of an upgrade.

Venom

Lu Tze wrote: »

Leaks appearing for the Ryzen 3000 lineup. Mad to think that after nearly decade of normal desktop CPUs topping out at 4 core/8 thread, in the space of 2 years it may be going to 16 core/32 thread.

Big jump in a short space of time, great for those who can use the extra cores!

I'm still running a 3770, not sure I will be jumping anytime soon, unless Im doing more hydraulic modelling at home, which is about the only thing I run that would make use of an upgrade.

That 16c/32t R9 is nuts but for me, the Ryzen 7 3700X with 12c/24t @ 5GHZ is way more of a game changer. Just hope my Crosshair VII can handle it.

Inviere

The 3700X is just nuts, if the specs are accurate.

wotzgoingon

I'm more interested in the design of the mainstream chips. We already seen the EPYC chiplet design so I cannot wait to see the 3000 series' one.

Like will the I/O die be separate like the EPYC or will it be integrated like the 1000 and 2000 series Ryzen.

SickBoy

Venom wrote: »

That 16c/32t R9 is nuts but for me, the Ryzen 7 3700X with 12c/24t @ 5GHZ is way more of a game changer. Just hope my Crosshair VII can handle it.

Thinking the very same about my ROG Strix X470-F

wotzgoingon

Anyone here lucky enough to be running a Threadripper 2990WX there is a fix for performance issues that people thought was a memory issue due to using only quad channel.

https://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/125819-amd-ryzen-threadripper-2990wx-perf-boosted-2x-coreprio-tool/?fbclid=IwAR2srpyzIn2vhty8VT1TH-sdNt4aUL6591SYn1kQFm0i3UY-oslfyQJXO7E

papu

and I've just pulled the trigger on an upgrade from my workhorse i5 2500k to a 1600X, B350 motherboard & 16gb ram for ~400€

I'll upgrade again in a few years time, damn my bang for buck ways!

Anyone else rocking a 1600(X) or eqv and a 1070?

I'm hoping my low framerates on newer titles were due to the 2500k struggling!

wotzgoingon

I think those Ryzen leaks were true. I didn't really believe the Russian leaks as I never heard of the website but Gigabyte just leaked this. Good bye Intels clock speed advantage.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/attachments/1546461554308-png.113901/

wotzgoingon

Actually I jumped before thinking. Afaik nobody seen the Gigabyte webpage that could be shopped. Hopefully it's true anyway.

yoshiktk

papu wrote: »

and I've just pulled the trigger on an upgrade from my workhorse i5 2500k to a 1600X, B350 motherboard & 16gb ram for ~400€

I'll upgrade again in a few years time, damn my bang for buck ways!

Anyone else rocking a 1600(X) or eqv and a 1070?

I'm hoping my low framerates on newer titles were due to the 2500k struggling!

I went from 2500k to R5 2600 and 580. To be honest I wanted to check both gpus on both cpus but in the end I was to anxious to build new pc. Im really surprised of how much the gaming experience improved.
Now in Bf5 instead if jumping straight into new round have to wait for others to liax.

papu

yoshiktk wrote: »

I went from 2500k to R5 2600 and 580. To be honest I wanted to check both gpus on both cpus but in the end I was to anxious to build new pc. Im really surprised of how much the gaming experience improved.
Now in Bf5 instead if jumping straight into new round have to wait for others to liax.

Yeah, I may do some comparative benchmarking of the 1070 with both CPUS for the hell of it. Have to wait for an AM4 adapter for my thermalright IFX-14.
Hopefully it has no compatibility issues with the new board.
That cooler, the Stacker 830 case and the corsair 620 are all 11 years old now!

Hopefully my PSU doesn't go pop with over a decade of work under it's belt!
Anyone have a longer serving component in their system? actually quite worried about that PSU now lol

wotzgoingon

I have a 9 or 10 years old PSU. A 80+bronze one at that. Running for most of it's life a 6 core 12 thread overclcoked CPU and a highly overclocked R9 290 then a
clocked R9 Fury X and now a clocked Rx Vega 56 and all of those are known for being power hungry. It's a 700W PSU btw.

Venom

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Actually I jumped before thinking. Afaik nobody seen the Gigabyte webpage that could be shopped. Hopefully it's true anyway.

I can't remember which Youtube tech channel it was, but the guy stated he had info coming in regarding the Ryzen 3 lineup, from multiple people who were bang on the money before with tech leaks. There is also the fact that these leaks all mentioned a Ryzen 9 chip which is new to the AMD lineup.

papu

Venom wrote: »

I can't remember which Youtube tech channel it was, but the guy stated he had info coming in regarding the Ryzen 3 lineup, from multiple people who were bang on the money before with tech leaks. There is also the fact that these leaks all mentioned a Ryzen 9 chip which is new to the AMD lineup.

Was it AdoredTV?

Venom

papu wrote: »

Was it AdoredTV?

It was. Had a look through my Youtube subs and posted his latest vid on Ryzen 3, Vega 2 and Navi in the AMD Zen thread as didn't want to spam it in multiple threads.

Redfox25

papu wrote: »

Was it AdoredTV?

You have to love that guy.

wotzgoingon

Redfox25 wrote: »

You have to love that guy.

He is pretty good at what he does. I'm subscribed to him for a long time anyway with the bell rung to receive a notification to when he posts a new video. He actually puts a lot of work into his videos, research wise and then editing.

One video he mentioned a lot of people do not like his Scottish accent and was thinking about hiring someone else to do voice overs. I myself do not mind his accent. But I did watch a video last night from some YouTuber about a Fx 8350 and some American was talking and after about 2 mins I had to take the head phones off and just watch the video as his voice done my head in. I suppose it's American's that did not like Jim's voice from Adoredtv. It probably has to do with what accents you are used to hearing.

TerrorFirmer

papu wrote: »

I'm hoping my low framerates on newer titles were due to the 2500k struggling!

Definitely. The 1600X is head and shoulders above it, even if you had a mega overclock on the 2500K the minimum frames will be miles better on the 1600X in new games.

kevovek

Do you think the vega 56/64 will come down a bit more in price in the next 2/3 months? I want something to take over from my 290x

wotzgoingon

kevovek wrote: »

Do you think the vega 56/64 will come down a bit more in price in the next 2/3 months? I want something to take over from my 290x

It's hard to call but I doubt it as they do not really have another card coming out unless of course Vega II is announced at CES.

A Vega is a massive upgrade to a 290x. I've had a 290 then Fury X which was a pretty big upgrade to a 290 and now a Vega which is a up biggish upgrade on Fury X.

Venom

wotzgoingon wrote: »

It's hard to call but I doubt it as they do not really have another card coming out unless of course Vega II is announced at CES.

A Vega is a massive upgrade to a 290x. I've had a 290 then Fury X which was a pretty big upgrade to a 290 and now a Vega which is a up biggish upgrade on Fury X.

The rumors doing the rounds are the next Vega GPU's logo mixes Vega II with a VII for the 7nm process and matches the RTX 2070 in performance for half the price :eek:

TitianGerm

Venom wrote: »

The rumors doing the rounds are the next Vega GPU's logo mixes Vega II with a VII for the 7nm process and matches the RTX 2070 in performance for half the price :eek:

I only built my PC a little while ago with a 1060 in it. I assume this would be a big upgrade for around £300?

wotzgoingon

You guys are mixing up the midrange Navi 7nm are not going to be released till mid 2019. They will be cheap cards.

If Vega II 7nm is going to be released to the consumer and not just for specific applications like deep learning it will not be cheap.

Venom

TitianGerm wrote: »

I only built my PC a little while ago with a 1060 in it. I assume this would be a big upgrade for around £300?

If the rumours of the new AMD card matching a 2070 are true, the performance would be roughly double that of a 1060.

TitianGerm

Venom wrote: »

If the rumours of the new AMD card matching a 2070 are true, the performance would be roughly double that of a 1060.

Cool. That could be an option for an unexpected early upgrade :pac:

K.O.Kiki

FYI before we all get caught up in the rumour mill:

The AMD Keynote is on Wednesday 9. January at 9AM (5PM GMT).
https://www.ces.tech/conference/Keynotes/AMD-Keynote.aspx

TitianGerm

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

FYI before we all get caught up in the rumour mill:

The AMD Keynote is on Wednesday 9. January at 9AM (5PM GMT).
https://www.ces.tech/conference/Keynotes/AMD-Keynote.aspx

To late.... I'm already on the hype train :pac: Choo Choo :pac:

MiskyBoyy

Loving this 9700k! Have it overclocked to 5Ghz @ 1.29v on air (Hyper 212 evo) and it never goes above 70!

wotzgoingon

What were you stressing it with?

MiskyBoyy

wotzgoingon wrote: »

What were you stressing it with?

That was after 6 hours of PUBG/ general usage yesterday. Just did a blast of Intel Xtreme Tuning Utility there and here's the results of that, I'm very happy for just air. I'd be getting an AIO in the future for looks only really.

MiskyBoyy

OSI wrote:

I run a 8700k on stock overclock and with an AIO and get worse temps than that so I wouldn't be in a rush. I really should get a move on and delid the thing.

Delidding and liquid metal really do work wonders on the 8700k!