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Rowan Croft the gran torino

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    #1412
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Walter Bishop wrote: »
    Any comment on Tan Torino saying it's ok to burn down hostels with immigrants in them?

    Yeah, anyone saying anything like that is a total scumbag.

    See, you don't have to nail your colours to a mast and automatically pick a poxy side. Imagine that.


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    #1413
    batgoat
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    blinding wrote: »
    Jaysus , but the Poster Pointed out that the Nazi Party had its Roots in the German Workers Party ( surely some socialists in there )

    I am just pointing out ( as a word of warning ) that Fascism can come from unexpected Places .

    Be Vigilant . Who would have seen Fascism coming out of the German Workers Party ?:eek:

    The German Workers Party was not socialist. It was anti Marxism... That's what the appeal was for Hitler. They were far right, not left.


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    #1414
    Boxing.Fan
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Yeah, anyone saying anything like that is a total scumbag.

    See, you don't have to nail your colours to a mast and automatically pick a poxy side. Imagine that.

    He never said burn the hotel down with people in it, he said he had no problem with them burning the hotel down which isn't much better but I'm just pointing out a slight exaggeration in the post you quoted.

    When he was down in rosslare and spoke to people about it, the hotel was empty.


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    #1415
    blinding
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    batgoat wrote: »
    The German Workers Party was not socialist. It was anti Marxism... That's what the appeal was for Hitler. They were far right, not left.
    A Far Right Workers Party :eek: You must have jumped the Shark :eek:

    Fascists can come from unexpected places . Keep an eye on the Antifa Mob . They already have the Violence .:eek:


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    #1416
    Annasopra
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    kunst nugget wrote: »
    If you use violence to get your point across, you can't claim any sort of moral high ground. Also, anyone espousing communism in this day and age is a tit as well.

    Oh ffs because someone chucks a curry milkshake they're a communist!

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #1417
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    blinding wrote: »
    A Far Right Workers Party :eek: You must have jumped the Shark :eek:

    Fascists can come from unexpected places . Keep an eye on the Antifa Mob . They already have the Violence .:eek:

    No, I have not. They're historically recognised as far right. You're claiming they're left wing so prove it. You're not gonna be able to.


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    #1418
    Annasopra
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    blinding wrote: »
    So , Antifa could be Facists .

    No. Anti Fascists cant be fascists.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #1419
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users Posts: 8,810 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    PhiloCypher wrote: »
    You don't need to align yourself with anyone mate, just don't make or believe these false equivelencies that they are just as bad as actual Fascists. Even if you believe some are them are just hooligans looking for any excuse to have a scrap, that's still not as bad or as dangerous as Fascists marching around spreading their hateful ideology.

    Total nonsense - who is spreading fascism and a hateful ideology here ??


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    #1420
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    batgoat wrote: »
    No, I have not. They're historically recognised as far right. You're claiming they're left wing so prove it. You're not gonna be able to.
    I am posting out the Roots of the Nazi Party .

    It is a great warning from History .

    Fascism coming the German Workers Party need to be more widely known !

    Stalin , Mao ; Two of the Greatest Mass Murderers in Human History coming from the left :eek:

    And People are not worried about Antifa :eek::eek::eek:


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    #1421
    Annasopra
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    Thrashssacre wrote: »
    The likening of the Irish right to the nazis does no favors either there hardly much alike.

    I wouldnt liken the centre right but definitely far right people like Gemma O'Doherty, Rowan Croft, Justin Barrett, Michael McGrath can be likened.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #1422
    ohnonotgmail
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    blinding wrote: »
    I am posting out the Roots of the Nazi Party .

    It is a great warning from History .

    Fascism coming the German Workers Party need to be more widely known !

    Stalin , Mao ; Two of the Greatest Mass Murderers in Human History coming from the left :eek:

    And People are not worried about Antifa :eek::eek::eek:

    a history you have absolutely no clue about. we will take your warning with a pinch of salt.


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    #1423
    Annasopra
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    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Total nonsense - who is spreading fascism and a hateful ideology here ??

    Gemma O'Doherty, Rowan Croft, Justin Barrett, Michael McGrath and a few others.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #1424
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    a history you have absolutely no clue about. we will take your warning with a pinch of salt.
    Was the roots of the Nazi party in the German Workers Party ?

    Did the Nazis call themselves Socialist to draw in Socialists ?

    We’re Stalin and Mao ( two of the greatest mass murderers in human history ) from the Left ?


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    #1425
    ollkiller
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    Ahh did the sad little Irish Patriot get a milkshake over him. Ahh. Poor little thing.

    Irish patriot. It's great when you hear people describing themselves as an Irish Patriot. You instantly know they're an idiot of epic proportions and to be avoided at all costs.


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    #1426
    kunst nugget
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    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Oh ffs because someone chucks a curry milkshake they're a communist!

    Where did I say that? Calm it down there a bit


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    #1427
    Thrashssacre
    Registered Users Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Thrashssacre


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    I wouldnt liken the centre right but definitely far right people like Gemma O'Doherty, Rowan Croft, Justin Barrett, Michael McGrath can be likened.

    How so? It’s a bit of stretch Gemma is a loon radicalized by the loss of her job and husband. Rowan is a chancer our for a few quid. Justin while being the most fitting of far right out of this group I wouldn’t quite class him as a nazi and micheal McGrath come off it now you’re having a laugh.....


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    #1428
    ohnonotgmail
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    blinding wrote: »
    Was the roots of the Nazi party in the German Workers Party ?

    Did the Nazis call themselves Socialist to draw in Socialists ?

    We’re Stalin and Mao ( two of the greatest mass murderers in human history ) from the Left ?

    The german workers party was anti-marxist, nationalist and anti-semetic. Probably why it appealed to hitler. It was not socialist.


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    #1429
    ohnonotgmail
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    Thrashssacre wrote: »
    How so? It’s a bit of stretch Gemma is a loon radicalized by the loss of her job and husband. Rowan is a chancer our for a few quid. Justin while being the most fitting of far right out of this group I wouldn’t quite class him as a nazi and micheal McGrath come off it now you’re having a laugh.....

    If justin isn't a nazi it is pretty odd that he just likes to hang around with them so much.


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    #1430
    blinding
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    The german workers party was anti-marxist, nationalist and anti-semetic. Probably why it appealed to hitler. It was not socialist.
    Was the Socialism in the National Socialist name a Hook / Lure to draw in Socialists . If you have socialist in your name perhaps you are trying to draw in socialists .

    Are socialists just useful idiots ?


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    #1431
    Thrashssacre
    Registered Users Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Thrashssacre


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    If justin isn't a nazi it is pretty odd that he just likes to hang around with them so much.

    Wasn't he a guest of honor at one meeting which had nazis which was over 20 years ago and he never went back? They must not like him much or vise versa


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    #1432
    ohnonotgmail
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    blinding wrote: »
    Was the Socialism in the National Socialist name a Hook / Lure to draw in Socialists . If you have socialist in your name perhaps you are trying to draw in socialists .

    Are socialists just useful idiots ?

    you really need to read a book. it is like trying to teach a child.


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    #1433
    ohnonotgmail
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    Thrashssacre wrote: »
    Wasn't he a guest of honor at one meeting which had nazis which was over 20 years ago and he never went back? They must not like him much or vise versa

    Or maybe he is just a bit more careful now. It doesn't change who he is or what he represents.


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    #1434
    blinding
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    you really need to read a book. it is like trying to teach a child.
    Did the Nationalist Socialist Party have Roots in the German Workers Party ?

    Why did they have Socialist in their name if they were not trying to attract Socialists ?

    Ok they Morphed into Fascists but the warning is there from History . Fascism can come from unexpected Roots .

    Stalin and Mao , both from the left were two of the worst Mass Murderers in Human History .

    Parties with their roots in the left can bring Mass Murder .


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    #1435
    Thrashssacre
    Registered Users Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Thrashssacre


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Or maybe he is just a bit more careful now. It doesn't change who he is or what he represents.

    I’m pretty sure If justin was frolicking around with nazis nowadays considering he has his own party it would be fairly widely reported, and rightly so.


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    #1436
    batgoat
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    blinding wrote: »
    Did the Nationalist Socialist Party have Roots in the German Workers Party ?

    Why did they have Socialist in their name if they were not trying to attract Socialists ?

    Ok they Morphed into Fascists but the warning is there from History . Fascism can come from unexpected Roots .

    Stalin and Mao , both from the left were two of the worst Mass Murderers in Human History .

    Parties with their roots in the left can bring Mass Murder .

    Can you prove evidence of either the workers party or Nazis being socialist. Actual proof. Because you're currently raving from ignorance.


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    #1437
    Hector Savage
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    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Gemma O'Doherty, Rowan Croft, Justin Barrett, Michael McGrath and a few others.

    Don't know about GOD or the others, but from what I've seen Rowan Croft isn't spreading fascism - is it your own definition of fascism here ?


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    #1438
    blinding
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    batgoat wrote: »
    Can you prove evidence of either the workers party or Nazis being socialist. Actual proof. Because you're currently raving from ignorance.
    What are the Chances of the German Workers Party not having Socialists in it ?

    What are the Chances that in the early days at least , that there was not some Socialists in the National Socialist Party ?


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    #1439
    ohnonotgmail
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    blinding wrote: »
    What are the Chances of the German Workers Party not having Socialists in it ?

    What are the Chances that in the early days at least , that there was not some Socialists in the National Socialist Party ?

    very very slim to both. the german workers party were anti-communist.


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    #1440
    ohnonotgmail
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    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Don't know about GOD or the others, but from what I've seen Rowan Croft isn't spreading fascism - is it your own definition of fascism here ?

    would you settle for ethnonationalism instead?


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    #1441
    Thrashssacre
    Registered Users Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Thrashssacre


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    would you settle for ethnonationalism instead?

    Didn’t Rowan have Ben scallon and Kevin sharkey on his channel? Can’t be much of an ethnonationalist either.


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