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22 syrian families arrive in ireland, then what?

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    #152
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users Posts: 28,679 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Try_harder wrote: »
    Irish always so good at assimilation

    Never was a username so apt for a post.

    It's the same old thing with people like yourself - snappy "comebacks" but no actual counter-argument.


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    #153
    _Kaiser_
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    end of the road wrote: »
    why should they adapt to the culture and practices of the natives apart from abiding by the law of the land? and actually nobody is forcing us to adapt to their culture and practices at all.




    and that is what makes us a step above those countries. we don't force people to "adapt" to any cultures or practices, we force them to simply abide by the law, and we don't use draconian penalties in the aim of enforcing.



    no, it's not. it's just simple interference in things that are really a non-issue unless they are against the law or cause actual harm to society.

    Look at the example I quoted/responded to, and let's assume it's true.

    Now.. how can a group of people turning up and refusing to play in a mixed sport or shake hands with men but still expecting to play anyway be a positive or helpful attitude.

    Our country, our rules - simple. I'm rapidly losing patience for the "bend over backwards for everyone else and screw the natives or their concerns" attitude from the advocates of this stuff.


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    #154
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
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    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    What makes you think that?






    Where did I say it was easy?






    Which brings me to the priority based allocation I mentioned.
    The Gardai.
    And there is no priority based allocation for anyone that isn’t a refugee it seems. They’ll help with hap. That’s it.


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    #155
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,986 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Look at the example I quoted/responded to, and let's assume it's true.

    Now.. how can a group of people turning up and refusing to play in a mixed sport or shake hands with men but still expecting to play anyway be a positive or helpful attitude.

    it's neither, but ultimately it's their choice, and if the relevant club are willing to accommodate them then so be it. it's not an issue where there needs to be rules or laws.
    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Our country, our rules - simple.

    except quite rightly, there are no rules on issues like the one above and nor should there be, nor has anyone put forward any argument as to why there should be . what would supposibly happen in "their countries" isn't a valid argument in my view.
    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    I'm rapidly losing patience for the "bend over backwards for everyone else and screw the natives or their concerns" attitude from the advocates of this stuff.

    if this was all happening, you would have a point. however i'm not seeing how the natives are being screwed, or how we are "bending over backwards" for people, rather accommodating them within the systems rules and laws of the country. i find that if there are actual genuine concerns that they are listened to and we do have procedures in place for people to raise concerns.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #156
    suicide_circus
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    end of the road wrote: »
    why should they adapt to the culture and practices of the natives apart from abiding by the law of the land?
    when in Rome


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    #157
    jmreire
    Registered Users Posts: 8,298 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Gatling wrote: »
    By whom were they vetted and how deep did said vetting go exactly.


    We've seen vetting done on 18+ years olds in the UK but somehow they decided grown men in their 20's 30's who in turn claimed to be children and accepted as such

    Yes I have seen a report in one of the papers recently where the students objected to and elderly "Student" sitting in with the class.....

    As for who did the vetting for the Irish Syrians, check out this link:
    https://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/paris-terror-attacks/migrants-accepted-by-ireland-to-be-vetted-in-advance-34206998.html

    I am sure that there are more articles out there about the vetting process, if you want to have a look.


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    #158
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,986 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    when in Rome

    an argument that could be used to justify people visiting countries who cary out draconian actions being forced to take part in such actions if it was to be taken to it's natural conclusion.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #159
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    This is a valid point and a significant issue. If you come here - as a refugee or migrant - part of the deal is (or should be!) that you adapt to life in your new host country and to the culture and practises of the natives .. NOT the other way around! If they don't like that then back where they came from, or off to another country more in-line with their expectations.

    This is our country and you can be damned sure if an Irish person rocked up in theirs, they'd be expected to adopt the local norms rapidly, and face some pretty severe and draconian penalties if they didn't.

    Yet somehow, expecting the same from the new arrivals is "racist" :rolleyes:


    Obviously you've been devastatingly affected by the Muslim female invasion of the Irish racket ball scene. My condolences.
    Chloe Brave Cowboy wrote: »
    The Gardai.


    You'd have to be talking to a pretty new relationship with no kids involved.

    Chloe Brave Cowboy wrote: »
    And there is no priority based allocation for anyone that isn’t a refugee it seems. They’ll help with hap. That’s it.


    There is.


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    #160
    Try_harder
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    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Never was a username so apt for a post.

    It's the same old thing with people like yourself - snappy "comebacks" but no actual counter-argument.

    What counter argument against assimilation - in what way? All play the Gah?


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    #161
    Try_harder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭Try_harder


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    when in Rome

    That’s a reductive comment


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    #162
    Try_harder
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    I have two Syrian refugee families on my street that the UN paid for - local howyas up in arms, I asked why was their need greater than refugees- look after our own- these were born with one hand out and the other in the till!


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    #163
    Try_harder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭Try_harder


    Why should someone have right by accident of where they were born?


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    #164
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    I hope they get on well. Easy to bang a keyboard and give out about this joke of a country but the fact you're on a laptop or smartphone doing it shows you're not really that badly off. Once they're vetted, legitimate, appreciative and just want to have a normal war-free life, they're fine by me and I'd welcome these families.


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    #165
    Try_harder
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    Omackeral wrote: »
    I hope they get on well. Easy to bang a keyboard and give out about this joke of a country but the fact you're on a laptop or smartphone doing it shows you're not really that badly off. Once they're vetted, legitimate, appreciative and just want to have a normal war-free life, they're fine by me and I'd welcome these families.

    A better response


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    #166
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Never was a username so apt for a post.

    It's the same old thing with people like yourself - snappy "comebacks" but no actual counter-argument.

    Wasn't he the virtue signaller who created the thread on Christmas Day thanking all the hard working migrants for working that day.
    Poor quality posts/quips and meant to put him on the ignore list then, but now is as good as ever.


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    #167
    Try_harder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭Try_harder


    Kivaro wrote: »
    Wasn't he the virtue signaller who created the thread on Christmas Day thanking all the hard working migrants for working that day.
    Poor quality posts/quips and meant to put him on the ignore list then, but now is as good as ever.

    Do - I dont want xenophobics reading my posts


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    #168
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Kivaro wrote: »
    Wasn't he the virtue signaller who created the thread on Christmas Day thanking all the hard working migrants for working that day.
    Poor quality posts/quips and meant to put him on the ignore list then, but now is as good as ever.

    I worked the last three Christmas Days and have to work nights on New Year's Eve this time around. I demand a thread.


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    #169
    Try_harder
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    Omackeral wrote: »
    I worked the last three Christmas Days and have to work nights on New Year's Eve this time around. I demand a thread.

    Get the lads to make one


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    #170
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Omackeral wrote: »
    I worked the last three Christmas Days and have to work nights on New Year's Eve this time around. I demand a thread.

    And you should get a thread, but it will be inclusive.
    I will thank you and migrants alike.


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    #171
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Try_harder wrote: »
    Get the lads to make one

    The Syrian families?


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    #172
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Kivaro wrote: »
    And you should get a thread, but it will be inclusive.
    I will thank you and migrants alike.

    Thanks!


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    #173
    road_high
    Registered Users Posts: 19,388 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    tretorn wrote: »
    There are thousands of radicalised Muslims making their way back from warzones and it will be impossible to identify them. Most grew up in western Europe and they will disperse all over Europe trying to sneak back in. They will have received training in warzone areas and will be capable of causing mass terrorism, the authorities are aware of the danger but cant protect us, life in Europe as we know it has changed forever. These people, mostly youngish males, hate us and hate our way of life and no amount of blood spilt will satisfy them.
    Its utterly grim and depressing.
    Im involved in a local sports club and Muslim women arrived covered head to toe to play racket sports. They arrive to play in mixed tournaments but dont want to play with men, they refuse to shake mens hands and in our culture this is an insult. Why are we facilitating this nonsense, if you dont want to participate in a mixed activity then stay at home, simple as that.

    Is this in Ireland? Yes, what the fcuk are they doing in a country and society they have no interest in integrating into


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    #174
    Try_harder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭Try_harder


    Omackeral wrote: »
    The Syrian families?

    Weren't they collectable squirrels for girls?


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    #175
    Try_harder
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    road_high wrote: »
    Is this in Ireland? Yes, what the fcuk are they doing in a country and society they have no interest in integrating into

    Winding you guys up by the looks of things, how many radicalised mooslums would you say there is in ireland now ted 1,000,000?


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    #176
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
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    Try_harder wrote: »
    I have two Syrian refugee families on my street that the UN paid for - local howyas up in arms, I asked why was their need greater than refugees- look after our own- these were born with one hand out and the other in the till!

    Considering that Clonmore house is heaving and the women and children up there have no washing facilities and are standing out at circle k on the Arden road in the middle of winter waiting to use the laundry services that are more often than not on the blink, I can understand why the “local howyas” are up in arms. The refugees should be subject to the same protocol in regards to housing.


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    #177
    Try_harder
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    Kivaro wrote: »
    And you should get a thread, but it will be inclusive.
    I will thank you and migrants alike.

    I did thank all essential service workers on Xmas Day tbf - but it doesn't suit the narrative!

    No Fats! No Fems, No Asians!


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    #178
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Omackeral wrote: »
    The Syrian families?
    Try_harder wrote: »
    Weren't they collectable squirrels for girls?

    For a supposed virtue signaller you're pretty damn sexist!


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    #179
    quokula
    Registered Users Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭quokula


    It amazes me how utterly disgusting some people's views on this topic are considering the history of emigration from Ireland.


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    #180
    Try_harder
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    Chloe Brave Cowboy wrote: »
    Considering that Clonmore house is heaving and the women and children up there have no washing facilities and are standing out at circle k on the Arden road in the middle of winter waiting to use the laundry services that are more often than not on the blink, I can understand why the “local howyas” are up in arms. The refugees should be subject to the same protocol in regards to housing.

    Get offaly Co Co to sort it. UN paid for the refugee houses.

    I would still say a war refugee's need is greater than a local how that got up the duff by Mick the slick in the Bridge House....

    Two how had a row on my street, Another two lads had to be broken up by the Gardai for a drug deal gone sour. Syrian refugees? Not a peep!

    Are you sure the wans at Circle K weren't on the game?


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    #181
    Try_harder
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    Omackeral wrote: »
    For a supposed virtue signaller you're pretty damn sexist!

    I like to throw the frothy mouth gammons a bone!!! The SJW is sexist, he only fcuks men!


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