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22 syrian families arrive in ireland, then what?

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    #182
    suicide_circus
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    Try_harder wrote: »
    That’s a reductive comment
    simplicity dosnt necessarily mean simple


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    #183
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
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    Try_harder wrote: »
    Get offaly Co Co to sort it. UN paid for the refugee houses.

    I would still say a war refugee's need is greater than a local how that got up the duff by Mick the slick in the Bridge House....

    Two how had a row on my street, Another two lads had to be broken up by the Gardai for a drug deal gone sour. Syrian refugees? Not a peep!

    Are you sure the wans at Circle K weren't on the game?
    I know the street you’re talking about. It’s a quiet street.


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    #184
    Try_harder
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    Chloe Brave Cowboy wrote: »
    I know the street you’re talking about. It’s a quiet street.

    I live on it, has its moments!


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    #185
    BBFAN
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    MontgomeryClift wrote: »
    Intersting fact: The average IQ in Syria is 83.

    Now maybe I heard wrong, but I understand that those with an IQ below 83 cannot do productive work.

    This means that, unless the Syrians who come to Ireland are exceptional, about half of those who settle here Syria cannot contribute to any kind of industry even if they try.

    I would absolutely LOVE to see proof of this BS. :rolleyes:

    Has to be the most retarded post I've seen on here so far.

    Quite apart from the fact that you can't even spell interesting. :D:D:D:D


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    #186
    road_high
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    Try_harder wrote: »
    Winding you guys up by the looks of things, how many radicalised mooslums would you say there is in ireland now ted 1,000,000?

    No one has a clue because **** knows how many of them are here or where they even came from.


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    #187
    Try_harder
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    road_high wrote: »
    No one has a clue because **** knows how many of them are here or where they even came from.

    But you know they are defiantly here? How?


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    #188
    Try_harder
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    BBFAN wrote: »
    I would absolutely LOVE to see proof of this BS. :rolleyes:

    Has to be the most retarded post I've seen on here so far.

    Quite apart from the fact that you can't even spell interesting. :D:D:D:D

    He read it on facebuke


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    #189
    enricoh
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    Try_harder wrote: »
    Winding you guys up by the looks of things, how many radicalised mooslums would you say there is in ireland now ted 1,000,000?

    Tis working out well for our near neighbours the English and the French isn't it?
    French cops baffled how the guy in the Christmas market a few weeks ago got in with the amount of cops searching everyone going in.
    Mi5 flat out monitoring 20k potential jihadis trying to prevent attacks.
    Enrichment ted!


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    #190
    BBFAN
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    Chloe Brave Cowboy wrote: »
    The Gardai.
    And there is no priority based allocation for anyone that isn’t a refugee it seems. They’ll help with hap. That’s it.

    You're wrong here shoesday and I say this as someone who has gotten a barring order against someone, doesn't matter who owns the property.

    Also, homeless HAP is much higher than normal HAP and pays the deposit and a month up front so you're wrong on that count as well.


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    #191
    end of the road
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    Chloe Brave Cowboy wrote: »
    Considering that Clonmore house is heaving and the women and children up there have no washing facilities and are standing out at circle k on the Arden road in the middle of winter waiting to use the laundry services that are more often than not on the blink, I can understand why the “local howyas” are up in arms. The refugees should be subject to the same protocol in regards to housing.

    i doubt the local howyas are up in arms because of the laundry facilities being on the blink.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #192
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    Try_harder wrote: »
    I live on it, has its moments!
    It’s the middle of town and an old council street, it’s not a gated community in donneybrook. The way you’re going on you’d swear you were in the middle of beruit


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    #193
    Omackeral
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    BBFAN wrote: »
    I would absolutely LOVE to see proof of this BS. :rolleyes:

    Has to be the most retarded post I've seen on here so far.

    It's up there with the settled people dumping rubbish on camp sites alright.


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    #194
    handlemaster
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    Chances are of the 22 families that arrive one will set up a business in a few years and employ a number of irish currently unemployed


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    #195
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    BBFAN wrote: »
    You're wrong here shoesday and I say this as someone who has gotten a barring order against someone, doesn't matter who owns the property.

    Also, homeless HAP is much higher than normal HAP and pays the deposit and a month up front so you're wrong on that count as well.

    It’s up to 20% higher than regular hap, actually. It will most likely depend on how long you’re with him, but no, if he owns the house and you’re there, you can get a safety order but not a barring order. If you have any rights to the house, your name on the rent book/joint mortgage etc then I’m sure you can get a barring order.


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    #196
    Try_harder
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    enricoh wrote: »
    Tis working out well for our near neighbours the English and the French isn't it?
    French cops baffled how the guy in the Christmas market a few weeks ago got in with the amount of cops searching everyone going in.
    Mi5 flat out monitoring 20k potential jihadis trying to prevent attacks.
    Enrichment ted!

    20k were is that figure from???


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    #197
    BBFAN
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    Chloe Brave Cowboy wrote: »
    It’s up to 20% higher than regular hap, actually. It will most likely depend on how long you’re with him, but no, if he owns the house and you’re there, you can get a safety order but not a barring order. If you have any rights to the house, your name on the rent book/joint mortgage etc then I’m sure you can get a barring order.

    So you agree you were wrong?


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    #198
    Try_harder
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    handlemaster wrote: »
    Chances are of the 22 families that arrive one will set up a business in a few years and employ a number of irish currently unemployed

    Can I do me Xs en Os???


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    #199
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    BBFAN wrote: »
    So you agree you were wrong?
    ansolutely not. You’re living with your fella, beating the **** out of you, you’ve nothing. You’re off to a refuge, they’ll get you set up with hap, who will cover about 1/2 your rent. You’re not rushed into a council house passed everyone else on the list


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    #200
    Try_harder
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    Chloe Brave Cowboy wrote: »
    It’s the middle of town and an old council street, it’s not a gated community in donneybrook. The way you’re going on you’d swear you were in the middle of beruit

    The amount of overweight Irish squaddies around you could easily mistake it lol


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    #201
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    Try_harder wrote: »
    The amount of overweight Irish squaddies around you could easily mistake it lol

    You’re coming across like you have a lot of internalized racism


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    #202
    Try_harder
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    Chloe Brave Cowboy wrote: »
    You’re coming across like you have a lot of internalized racism

    what pray tell is internalised racism?


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    #203
    BBFAN
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    Chloe Brave Cowboy wrote: »
    ansolutely not. You’re living with your fella, beating the **** out of you, you’ve nothing. You’re off to a refuge, they’ll get you set up with hap, who will cover about 1/2 your rent. You’re not rushed into a council house passed everyone else on the list

    Ah stop now shoesday, you're speaking to someone who's actually experienced this, you've admitted that you were wrong in saying you couldn't get a barring order and you were wrong in saying that they weren't given priority on the housing list and weren't given extra HAP? And yet you weren't wrong?

    You're making yourself look foolish now. :rolleyes:


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    #204
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    Try_harder wrote: »
    what pray tell is internalised racism?
    does google not work on your street no? Sounds like it’s even more like beruit than I initially thought


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    #205
    PuppyMcPupFace
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 255 ✭✭PuppyMcPupFace


    BBFAN wrote: »
    Ah stop now shoesday, you're speaking to someone who's actually experienced this, you've admitted that you were wrong in saying you couldn't get a barring order and you were wrong in saying that they weren't given priority on the housing list and weren't given extra HAP? And yet you weren't wrong?

    You're making yourself look foolish now. :rolleyes:

    Maybe he didn't want you to be alone ????


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    #206
    Omackeral
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    Chloe Brave Cowboy wrote: »
    You’re coming across like you have a lot of internalized racism

    This thread certainly rubbed a few people up the wrong way :P


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    #207
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    BBFAN wrote: »
    Ah stop now shoesday, you're speaking to someone who's actually experienced this, you've admitted that you were wrong in saying you couldn't get a barring order and you were wrong in saying that they weren't given priority on the housing list and weren't given extra HAP? And yet you weren't wrong?

    You're making yourself look foolish now. :rolleyes:
    They can’t get a barring order in every single case?? I didn’t admit I was wrong. Your situation isn’t the same for every other person who finds themselves in an abusive situation. They’re not given priority on being handed a council house. They’re given hap and can be given an additional 20% of the rate they’re entitled to, but if there is nothing available or they can’t find anywhere to live, they’re not prioritized. They’ll be moved into a women’s refuge. They will still have to wait on a council list like everyone else on it.


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    #208
    PuppyMcPupFace
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    Chloe Brave Cowboy wrote: »
    They can’t get a barring order in every single case?? I didn’t admit I was wrong. Your situation isn’t the same for every other person who finds themselves in an abusive situation. They’re not given priority on being handed a council house. They’re given hap and can be given an additional 20% of the rate they’re entitled to, but if there is nothing available or they can’t find anywhere to live, they’re not prioritized. They’ll be moved into a women’s refuge. They will still have to wait on a council list like everyone else on it.

    That's all true - the friend's daughter is a social worker dealing with the iffier cases. We should be opening these hotels for the needy of our own country, not strapping lads who blagged their way here


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    #209
    airy fairy
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    I don't mind the refugees coming to Ireland, but certain criteria should be in place.
    They should have to integrate, this isn't happening, both with refugees, but with other eastern European cultures that arrived during the boom. Only shop in their shops, they go home for dental treatment, scans, and work, yes, work.
    They should not get priority on housing lists, medical lists or otherwise.
    I live near a facility that holds asylum seekers etc. Their
    kids go to school with mine, the majority are Muslim.
    Kids Xmas concert this year, Little Donkey not allowed, a parent complained about Bethlehem being in it. In fact no religious songs allowed at all, in a Catholic primary school.
    The 3 little pigs are not allowed as a story to junior infants, a Muslim family complained as they consider the pig to be dirty and should not beat the wolf.

    We are bending over too much for foreign visitors.
    You live in Rome, you do as the Romans do....
    If I go to a foreign country I have to abide to their beliefs and traditions and culture, same should apply when people visit/live here.


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    #210
    enricoh
    Registered Users Posts: 4,835 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Try_harder wrote: »
    20k were is that figure from???

    Apologies its 25k potential jihadis in the uk. More enrichment than i thought!

    UK home to up to 25,000 Islamist extremists who could pose threat, EU ...
    https://www.independent.co.uk › ...
    ttps://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news


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    #211
    Try_harder
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    Chloe Brave Cowboy wrote: »
    I know the street you’re talking about. It’s a quiet street.

    its grim
    Pobal HP Description 2016 disadvantaged
    Age dependency ratio (%) 30.61
    Lone parent ratio (%) 28
    Prop. primary education only (%) 29
    Prop. third level education (%) 18.68
    Prop. local authority rented (%) 18.58
    Unemployment rate - male (%) 27.27
    Unemployment rate - female (%) 15.58


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