Garda shoots dog in Longford

lawred2

tuxy wrote: »

Wait no longer

https://gyazo.com/c7943ba3efea113d521ec836bdb8e1da

would presume not working for the rest of your life was seen as a good thing for the likes of Cash - bit of a mixed message

Wheres Me Jumper?

Sergio Orange Balm wrote: »

That woman has some set of lungs

that's actually euphoria. she was excited thinking of her compo claim.

Gravelly

tuxy wrote: »

Wait no longer

https://gyazo.com/c7943ba3efea113d521ec836bdb8e1da

Good to see she's as articulate, insightful, and balanced as ever.

Subcomandante Marcos

Has nobody else pointed out that the Gardai shouldn't have been there?
He wasn't on official business, he should not have had a gun to draw. He was there to "help a mate" who was in dispute with the person shot over a repair bill. There are legal routes available to the winner of the van if the feels he is being over charged or taken advantage of.
Imagine if a Gardai showed up to a ford dealers because their mate was in dispute of the bill and pulled a gun when they refused to let him.drive away in the van?

The usual right wing booklickers in here jumping to idiocy like "more Gardai shooting people would be a good thing" with their fake support for the "rule of law" being used like a bikini of a fat bird trying to cover their blatant bigotry.

The Gardai should be imprisoned.

Sky King

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

but do we want the American style of "justice" here?.

No but I would like to live in a society with the kind of people who obey what the fck they are being told when a cop with a gun gives them an instruction.

Gravelly

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Has nobody else pointed out that the Gardai shouldn't have been there?
He wasn't on official business, he should not have had a gun to draw. He was there to "help a mate" who was in dispute with the person shot over a repair bill. There are legal routes available to the winner of the van if the feels he is being over charged or taken advantage of.
Imagine if a Gardai showed up to a ford dealers because their mate was in dispute of the bill and pulled a gun when they refused to let him.drive away in the van?

The usual right wing booklickers in here jumping to idiocy like "not Gardai shooting people would be a good thing" with their fake support for the "rule of law" being used like a bikini of a fat bird trying to cover their blatant bigotry.

The Gardai should be imprisoned.

How do you know?

lawred2

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Has nobody else pointed out that the Gardai shouldn't have been there?
He wasn't on official business, he should not have had a gun to draw. He was there to "help a mate" who was in dispute with the person shot over a repair bill. There are legal routes available to the winner of the van if the feels he is being over charged or taken advantage of.
Imagine if a Gardai showed up to a ford dealers because their mate was in dispute of the bill and pulled a gun when they refused to let him.drive away in the van?

The usual right wing booklickers in here jumping to idiocy like "not Gardai shooting people would be a good thing" with their fake support for the "rule of law" being used like a bikini of a fat bird trying to cover their blatant bigotry.

The Gardai should be imprisoned.

Plumbthedepths

tuxy wrote:

Wait no longer

So she hopes he never works another day in his life... So she wants him to be like her. Curious.

tuxy

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Has nobody else pointed out that the Gardai shouldn't have been there?

It's been speculated on a few times now. No info from a reliable new source yet unfortunately.

Plumbthedepths

Subcomandante Marcos wrote:

Has nobody else pointed out that the Gardai shouldn't have been there? He wasn't on official business, he should not have had a gun to draw. He was there to "help a mate" who was in dispute with the person shot over a repair bill. There are legal routes available to the winner of the van if the feels he is being over charged or taken advantage of. Imagine if a Gardai showed up to a ford dealers because their mate was in dispute of the bill and pulled a gun when they refused to let him.drive away in the van?

You basing your extensive knowledge of the situation on a piece from Broadsheet? That's cute.

punisher5112

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Has nobody else pointed out that the Gardai shouldn't have been there?
He wasn't on official business, he should not have had a gun to draw. He was there to "help a mate" who was in dispute with the person shot over a repair bill. There are legal routes available to the winner of the van if the feels he is being over charged or taken advantage of.
Imagine if a Gardai showed up to a ford dealers because their mate was in dispute of the bill and pulled a gun when they refused to let him.drive away in the van?

The usual right wing booklickers in here jumping to idiocy like "not Gardai shooting people would be a good thing" with their fake support for the "rule of law" being used like a bikini of a fat bird trying to cover their blatant bigotry.

The Gardai should be imprisoned.

Answer me this....

Is it a public road or is it a private yard.....

Gravelly

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

So she hopes he never works another day in his life... So she wants him to be like her. Curious.

Her take-home pay is probably higher than his.

Subcomandante Marcos

Gravelly wrote: »

How do you know?

Because if he was he wouldn't have been alone with his friend. He would have arrived with a squad car and uniformed officers. It's a civil dispute, the Gardai have no legal basis to get involved in this manner.
There are legal avenues to go down, arriving with your mate who's a Gardai isn't one of them.

cloudy90210

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Has nobody else pointed out that the Gardai shouldn't have been there?
He wasn't on official business, he should not have had a gun to draw. He was there to "help a mate" who was in dispute with the person shot over a repair bill. There are legal routes available to the winner of the van if the feels he is being over charged or taken advantage of.
Imagine if a Gardai showed up to a ford dealers because their mate was in dispute of the bill and pulled a gun when they refused to let him.drive away in the van?

The usual right wing booklickers in here jumping to idiocy like "not Gardai shooting people would be a good thing" with their fake support for the "rule of law" being used like a bikini of a fat bird trying to cover their blatant bigotry.

The Gardai should be imprisoned.

the garda should get a parade down O'Connell street with Miggeldy Higgins giving him the Victoria Cross for services to the Irish Republic imo.

Snowflakes like you need imprisoning

Gravelly

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Because if he was he wouldn't have been alone with his friend. He would have arrived with a squad car and uniformed officers. It's a civil dispute, the Gardai have no legal basis to get involved in this manner.
There are legal avenues to go down, arriving with your mate who's a Gardai isn't one of them.

The Gardaí have no right to intervene when someone is being assaulted? Since when?

punisher5112

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Because if he was he wouldn't have been alone with his friend. He would have arrived with a squad car and uniformed officers. It's a civil dispute, the Gardai have no legal basis to get involved in this manner.
There are legal avenues to go down, arriving with your mate who's a Gardai isn't one of them.

Where in law does this state so.

If a vehicle has been taken then it's theft.

Dial Hard

Has this actually been corroborated anywhere? GSOC are saying that they have no information about the dog being killed, despite the reports. The Irish Times aren't carrying the story at all. It's all a bit strange.

Wheres Me Jumper?

Sky King wrote: »

No but I would like to live in a society with the kind of people who obey what the fck they are being told when a cop with a gun gives them an instruction.

agreed. but we need a proper balance.
the typical right-winger's knee-jerk reaction is to cite how wonderful the USA is.
most sensible people know the States has gotten it so wrong when it comes to law enforcement.
i wouldn't be in any hurry to copy their model.

lawred2

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Because if he was he wouldn't have been alone with his friend. He would have arrived with a squad car and uniformed officers. It's a civil dispute, the Gardai have no legal basis to get involved in this manner.
There are legal avenues to go down, arriving with your mate who's a Gardai isn't one of them.

you clearly have no understanding of the law

civil law does not extend to assault or carrying deadly weapons

Subcomandante Marcos

punisher5112 wrote: »

Where in law does this state so.

If a vehicle has been taken then it's theft.

The vehicle wasn't taken, it was left with then for repair, and the repair bill was being disputed.

Skylinehead

Red_Wake wrote: »

Give that guard a medal and an Uzi.

cloudy90210

The travellers were filming it to gain publicity and to get on to RTE where Claire Byrne will have an in depth discussion hopefully with Peter Casey involved vs Pavee Point. RTE will be creaming themselves at the thought of this.

Squatter

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Has nobody else pointed out that the Gardai shouldn't have been there?
He wasn't on official business, he should not have had a gun to draw. He was there to "help a mate" who was in dispute with the person shot over a repair bill.

The Gardai should be imprisoned. (I assume that he means "garda" but we'll give him a fool's pass on that one)

Quick - someone call the GSOC and tell them to cancel the investigation! It's not needed because Mensa man Marcos has done their work for them!

And no need for a court trial either - Marcos has also considered all of the evidence, found the garda guilty and sentenced him to ten years in jail!

seamus

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Has nobody else pointed out that the Gardai shouldn't have been there?

How do you know he shouldn't?

The only suggestion so far that this is the case, is an unverifiable claim from an unnamed source.

In any case, Gardai are entitled, just as any private citizen is, to help out a mate in such circumstances. As members of the force, they retain their powers when on or off-duty, and armed members may use their weapon if necessary, whether on-duty or off-duty. "Please don't shoot! I can't shoot back, I'm off-duty!".

Allinall

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

The vehicle wasn't taken, it was left with then for repair, and the repair bill was being disputed.

How do you know this?

Gravelly

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

The vehicle wasn't taken, it was left with then for repair, and the repair bill was being disputed.

Yes, someone left a van with a traveller criminal gang for repair, and the video shows them having a discussion about the bill.

Sounds legit.

cloudy90210

Has anyone pointed out that the Travellers shouldn't have been assaulting the driver in the van?

Subcomandante Marcos

lawred2 wrote: »

you clearly have no understanding of the law

civil law does not extend to assault or carrying deadly weapons

The Garda had no basis to be there in the first place. He was actibg of his own accord, not in his duties as a Gardai and as such should not have had his side arm to draw.

You can't just show up with your mate and use "I'm a gadra" to try and end disputes. That's not how the legal system works. Thankfully.

Wheres Me Jumper?

cloudy90210 wrote: »

The travellers were filming it to gain publicity and to get on to RTE where Claire Byrne will have an in depth discussion hopefully with Peter Casey involved vs Pavee Point. RTE will be creaming themselves at the thought of this.

the idea of Claire creamin herself .....

oh sorry got distracted there.

Yes we need a good exposé Claire.

Gravelly

cloudy90210 wrote: »

Has anyone pointed out that the Travellers shouldn't have been assaulting the driver in the van?

I did a couple of posts ago, but apparently they weren't assaulting him, they were merely discussing an invoice with him.