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Garda shoots dog in Longford

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    #182
    tuxy
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    Every garda especially a detective knows that there is an investigation anytime a shot is fired. There is no question that he most a been extremely scared to have used his pistol.


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    #183
    pistolpetes11
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    well known? they are on first name terms.

    Lets call them regulars for want of a better word


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    #184
    Wheres Me Jumper?
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭Wheres Me Jumper?


    weird how the dog never barked or yelped. i never saw/heard of a dog grabbing a person by his tie. more likely to grab your leg i would have thought.
    i'm not disputing the Gardaí version of events but ....


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    #185
    tuxy
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    cherryghost wrote: »
    Actually, it was covered in the news less than a week ago

    If that is the travellers involved the detective was crazy to approach them alone. That's a serious illegal operation so I can only imagine the people involved are very dangerous.


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    #186
    Sky King
    Registered Users Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    What sort of a spastic engages in any kind of conflict with an armed police officer? Seriously?

    These people are too used to living in a world without consequences.


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    #187
    utyh2ikcq9z76b
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    Grayditch wrote: »
    The confusion is that the dog's name is "Foot".


    Or since Paddy Casey they have just started to call travellers dogs


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    #188
    Wheres Me Jumper?
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    Sky King wrote: »
    What sort of a spastic engages in any kind of conflict with an armed police officer? Seriously?

    These people are too used to living in a world without consequences.

    can you even imagine confronting and obstructing a police officer in the USA or even Spain who had just drawn his firearm?


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    #189
    Red_Wake
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    Give that guard a medal and an Uzi.


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    #190
    Ten of Swords
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    I'm confused, how many shots did the garda discharge?

    The uploader of the video (and reprinted in Broadsheet) is suggesting two, one before the recording where the dog is killed and a second shot which is on the video
    Shortly before 6pm, A garda allegedly helping a friend remove a van that the repairs on it hadn’t been paid for…When the man who repaired it tried to stop the van from being taken, the garda, shoving the man and his wife and when his tie was grabbed, raised a pistol and shot the man having already allegedly shot and killed his dog…

    https://www.broadsheet.ie/2018/12/04/meanwhile-in-longford

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    #191
    Gravelly
    Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    Ten of Swords wrote: »
    I'm confused, how many shots did the garda discharge?

    The uploader of the video (and reprinted in Broadsheet) is suggesting two, one before the recording where the dog is killed and a second shot which is on the video



    https://www.broadsheet.ie/2018/12/04/meanwhile-in-longford

    Yer man that uploaded the video seems to have a small forest on his shoulder, and Broadsheet isn't exactly the most reliable of sources.


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    #192
    Captain Obvious
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    Ten of Swords wrote: »
    I'm confused, how many shots did the garda discharge?

    The uploader of the video (and reprinted in Broadsheet) is suggesting two, one before the recording where the dog is killed and a second shot which is on the video



    https://www.broadsheet.ie/2018/12/04/meanwhile-in-longford


    Wouldn't they have mentioned that in the video instead of going on about assault? I seems pretty likely that the dog was what the man was holding onto at the start of the video and what the Garda was shooting at.


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    #193
    LeBash
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    If they were breaking the law and it looks like they were harassing the man in the van, whatever they got, they deserved. There shouldn't be any compensation to anyone who is injured while breaking the law


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    #194
    pistolpetes11
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    tuxy wrote: »
    This sounds believable but it would be nice to have a source. Possibly too soon for news sources to fact check all this?

    It will come out in the investigation , there were more witnesses than the 4 people we see or hear from in this video

    Hopefully charges will follow .....


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    #195
    tuxy
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    LeBash wrote: »
    If they were breaking the law and it looks like they were harassing the man in the van, whatever they got, they deserved. There shouldn't be any compensation to anyone who is injured while breaking the law

    I didn't think of that. The man that was shot will probably get a massive payout from the state. Depressing :(


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    #196
    Wheres Me Jumper?
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    LeBash wrote: »
    If they were breaking the law and it looks like they were harassing the man in the van, whatever they got, they deserved. There shouldn't be any compensation to anyone who is injured while breaking the law

    you're not very familiar with how the Irish system of justice operates, are you?


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    #197
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,772 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Ten of Swords wrote: »
    I'm confused, how many shots did the garda discharge?

    The uploader of the video (and reprinted in Broadsheet) is suggesting two, one before the recording where the dog is killed and a second shot which is on the video




    https://www.broadsheet.ie/2018/12/04/meanwhile-in-longford


    Not enough.


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    #198
    cloudy90210
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    Give that Garda a medal of honour.

    Poor dog having owners like that putting him in the line of fire. Hopefully the Garda isn't too shook up about the incident. He was defending himself. Screw the travellers.

    Can't wait to hear what Margaret Cash has to say on the matter..........


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    #199
    Wheres Me Jumper?
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    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/burglar-sues-shop-owner-after-he-injured-his-testicles-while-robbing-the-premises-36468641.html


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    #200
    Sky King
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    Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »
    can you even imagine confronting and obstructing a police officer in the USA or even Spain who had just drawn his firearm?

    I know I had the exact same thought. I'd say if you even walked towards (let alone touched) a US cop with a drawn firearm he would put you down without thinking twice, and that would be the end of it.


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    #201
    dan1895
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    Frances Icy Inch wrote: »
    Or since Paddy Casey they have just started to call travellers dogs

    Anyone can loose it all.
    Anyone can loose it all.


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    #202
    Reati
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    Let's be honest, the Garda knew he was being video'd. He wouldn't have pulled the gun out and pulled the trigger for the craic. He clearly felt threatened.

    Anyway, I was having a bad morning here int he Office but that video really cheered me up. Good on the Garda for his actions. Pity he shot for the foot. The women screaming didn't seem too scared of him given her ability to keep videoing and screaming "he shot me husband". Husband wasn't making too much noise for a man just shot either.


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    #203
    Gravelly
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    Reati wrote: »
    Husband wasn't making too much noise for a man just shot either.

    Probably on the phone to his solicitor.


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    #204
    Wheres Me Jumper?
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    Sky King wrote: »
    I know I had the exact same thought. I'd say if you even walked towards (let alone touched) a US cop with a drawn firearm he would put you down without thinking twice, and that would be the end of it.

    but do we want the American style of "justice" here?
    a lot of these keyboard warriors here will say "heck yea!", but they'll be the first ones to (rightly) cry foul when an American cop shoots some black kid for being in the wrong neighborhood.


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    #205
    cloudy90210
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    Paschal Sheehy now going live on RTE One News at 1pm to Margaret Cash from the Gresham Hotel where her and her 194 kids are staying for Christmas.

    "Margaret is the another example of brutality against the Traveller community?"

    "Yes Paschal it's worse than Syria here. Just look at the poor man trying to engage with the driver. The Garda had his gun drawn so he was obviously looking to use it. I'm off to Penney's now to do more shoppin"


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    #206
    gwalk
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    Frances Icy Inch wrote: »
    Or since Paddy Casey they have just started to call travellers dogs

    you mean they're not Saints or Sinners


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    #207
    tuxy
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    Reati wrote: »
    Let's be honest, the Garda knew he was being video'd. He wouldn't have pulled the gun out and pulled the trigger for the craic. He clearly felt threatened.

    Anyway, I was having a bad morning here int he Office but that video really cheered me up. Good on the Garda for his actions. Pity he shot for the foot. The women screaming didn't seem too scared of him given her ability to keep videoing and screaming "he shot me husband". Husband wasn't making too much noise for a man just shot either.

    Seems like it when through a dog hit the ground then bounced and hit the traveller. Would have taken most the power out of the shot. As said knowing this country there will be a big cash settlement.


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    #208
    nim1bdeh38l2cw
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    That woman has some set of lungs


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    #209
    tuxy
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    cloudy90210 wrote: »
    Can't wait to hear what Margaret Cash has to say on the matter..........

    Wait no longer

    https://gyazo.com/c7943ba3efea113d521ec836bdb8e1da


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    #210
    The Crowman
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    Looking at that uploaders other videos I think its safe to say they might be kind of biased against the forces of law and order. I'd take their description of the background story to this with a pinch of salt.


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    #211
    cloudy90210
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    The Crowman wrote: »
    Looking at that uploaders other videos I think its safe to say they might be kind of biased against the forces of law and order. I'd take their description of the background story to this with a pinch of salt.

    that would be a waste of salt imo.


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