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Garda shoots dog in Longford

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    #722
    tuxy
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Actually they are favoured in the states for self defense. A corpse is no longer a threat.....

    That's merica for you!
    I imagine in countries where gun laws are stricter police forces are more likely to pick FMJ over hollow point.


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    #723
    Ash.J.Williams
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    There should be an enquiry if he missed


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    #724
    sligojoek
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    I'd imagine if there was a dog, GSOC/Forensic will have no problem finding his blood.


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    #725
    tuxy
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    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    There should be an enquiry if he missed

    What are you talking about?
    there will be a full investigation as there always is when a garda discharges his weapon.


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    #726
    Wheres Me Jumper?
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    tuxy wrote: »
    What are you talking about?
    there will be a full investigation as there always is when a garda discharges his weapon.

    calm down.
    i think he meant it as a joke.
    u know, ha! ha!


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    #727
    tuxy
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    I see!
    Garda assaulted by gang and now needs protection at his home haha?


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    #728
    RustyNut
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    As an aside the guards evidence and that of the driver will carry more weight than the aggressor.

    "Alleged aggressor"?

    So it seems that you would be in agreement with John Connors that the system is biased against travellers?


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    #729
    Wheres Me Jumper?
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    tuxy wrote: »
    I see!
    Garda assaulted by gang and now needs protection at his home haha?

    and keyboard warriors like you are gonna make a difference?


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    #730
    no.8
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    Traveller lawlessness is a discussion that needs to broadcast and targeted by the mainstream media, but its taboo as they have the liberal media wrapped around their fingers (especially with this ridiculous status in place). Many of the regular folk (and indeed law-abiding travellers) are absolutely fed up with this s@@t. It's a shame because ultimately all most of us want is unbiased reporting (or relatively unbiased...being realistic) and a safe, fair society for our families.

    Death threats against a Garda should not be taken lightly. This is a serious crime in most developed nations. Those committing threats need to be found and dealt with.
    It's unclear what happened exactly and this what the GSOC is there for but there's no doubt that the dogs owners were / are engaging in criminal activity.


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    #731
    demanufactured
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    facehugger99 wrote: »
    So, basically you're advocating genocide?

    Cleansing, Its cleansing you mean.


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    #732
    Wheres Me Jumper?
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    demanufactured wrote: »
    Cleansing, Its cleansing you mean.

    the Gardaí are totally under-resourced imho. to send a lone detective to deal with this rabble is disgraceful.
    but fair play to him for sorting the problem out as best he could.


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    #733
    Plumbthedepths
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    RustyNut wrote:
    So it seems that you would be in agreement with John Connors that the system is biased against travellers?


    Not sure how you work that out. I looked at the video only one person throwing punch's wasn't the cop or van driver.


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    #734
    RustyNut
    Registered Users Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Not sure how you work that out. I looked at the video only one person throwing punch's wasn't the cop or van driver.

    How do you know that the traveller wasn't acting in self defence from what you seen in the video?


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    #735
    Signore Fancy Pants
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    The FB pages belonging to the cultured Longford folk are mad altogether.

    Hopefully a robust AGS crackdown in the area will happen.


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    #736
    Signore Fancy Pants
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    RustyNut wrote: »
    How do you know that the traveller wasn't acting in self defence from what you seen in the video?

    Because an unarmed person does not go on the offensive against an armed person...

    ...thats how.


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    #737
    no.8
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    Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »
    the Gardaí are totally under-resourced imho. to send a lone detective to deal with this rabble is disgraceful.
    but fair play to him for sorting the problem out as best he could.

    Here here.
    TBH, if the states comes down on officer Quinn then I will lose all confidence in the justice system (whatever shred is left). If he did something grossly wrong then fair enough, the law is not above him......but this is seemingly not the case. Ultimately the state powers should hold the cards and he acted in self-defense. They saw a gun drawn, by a member of the law enforcement....and the clowns didn't back off.

    It's a clear sign of criminality if they know all the details about the guard....1st name basis / address etc. Those of us not involved in s@@t don't need to or care to know.


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    #738
    tuxy
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    Señor Santa Pants wrote: »
    The FB pages belonging to the cultured Longford folk are mad altogether.

    Hopefully a robust AGS crackdown in the area will happen.

    The situation in Longford is seriously out of hand. If you search for "stokes longford" all you see is court case after court case with very light sentences.
    In one case one of the travellers even took the time to commend the judge on what a fair man he is.


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    #739
    Wheres Me Jumper?
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    RustyNut wrote: »
    How do you know that the traveller wasn't acting in self defence from what you seen in the video?

    ya sure the old geezer driving the van really looked like he was bating the crap outta the poor lad.

    that or he had just vilified his much vaunted culture, which upset him really badly ...


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    #740
    Plumbthedepths
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    RustyNut wrote:
    How do you know that the traveller wasn't acting in self defence from what you seen in the video?


    Guy sitting in a van sheilding himself from punches from the traveller, call it a hunch.


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    #741
    RustyNut
    Registered Users Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    SeSanta Pants wrote: »
    Because an unarmed person does not go on the offensive against an armed person...

    ...thats how.

    But that's just not true is it. Plenty of armed gunmen have been disarmed by unarmed people.

    I've no idea what went on before the camera started so I'm not going to assume anything but if memory serves the last two people shot by AGS were shot by mistake.


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    #742
    Ash.J.Williams
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    The indo said the family are linked to the car chop shop discovery/raid this week?


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    #743
    thecomedian
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    RustyNut wrote: »
    But that's just not true is it. Plenty of armed gunmen have been disarmed by unarmed people.

    Don’t be fooled by those films you watch 🙂


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    #744
    Captain Obvious
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    no.8 wrote: »
    Traveller lawlessness is a discussion that needs to broadcast and targeted by the mainstream media, but its taboo as they have the liberal media wrapped around their fingers (especially with this ridiculous status in place). Many of the regular folk (and indeed law-abiding travellers) are absolutely fed up with this s@@t. It's a shame because ultimately all most of us want is unbiased reporting (or relatively unbiased...being realistic) and a safe, fair society for our families.

    Death threats against a Garda should not be taken lightly. This is a serious crime in most developed nations. Those committing threats need to be found and dealt with.
    It's unclear what happened exactly and this what the GSOC is there for but there's no doubt that the dogs owners were / are engaging in criminal activity.


    I am fully sure that if the true extent of traveller crime was revealed then people simply wouldn't believe it.


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    #745
    Wheres Me Jumper?
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    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    I am fully sure that if the true extent of traveller crime was revealed then people simply wouldn't believe it.

    do tell us


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    #746
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    I am fully sure that if the true extent of traveller crime was revealed then people simply wouldn't believe it.

    You think not? What if we showed evidence of the same travellers who are on the dole walking in to a car dealership with €50k in cash?


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    #747
    RustyNut
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    thecomedian wrote: »
    Don’t be fooled by those films you watch ��

    I dont think it was a film when that brave member in Westmanstown dissarmed a hit man using only his hurl.


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    #748
    Ash.J.Williams
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    RustyNut wrote: »
    But that's just not true is it. Plenty of armed gunmen have been disarmed by unarmed people.

    I've no idea what went on before the camera started so I'm not going to assume anything but if memory serves the last two people shot by AGS were shot by mistake.

    If you set a dog on an armed Garda then you're asking to be hit by ricochet via dog


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    #749
    Ash.J.Williams
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    RustyNut wrote: »
    I dont think it was a film when that brave member in Westmanstown dissarmed a hit man using only his hurl.

    Lets issue hurls to the Gardaí then... Maybe add sliotars too for the armed Garda


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    #750
    thecomedian
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    RustyNut wrote: »
    I dont think it was a film when that brave member in Westmanstown dissarmed a hit man using only his hurl.

    So he was armed with a hurl!!


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    #751
    Wheres Me Jumper?
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    thecomedian wrote: »
    So he was armed with a hurl!!

    was it a hollow tip or a FMJ i wonder?


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