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Garda shoots dog in Longford

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    #602
    Wheres Me Jumper?
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    Zorya wrote: »
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/armed-officers-protect-gardas-house-over-threats-after-man-shot-in-leg-37596535.html

    Wonder how long this man and his family will be protected, or even will have to be protected.

    not always a big fan of the Gardaí, but i have genuine sympathy for any garda having to deal with these scum. (and tbf that is probably 99% of garda).


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    #603
    Raheem Euro
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    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Can anybody confirm if there was a dog just outside of the camera angle?

    Fcuked if I could see or hear a dog.

    And media reports mention that the dog has now vanished?

    The video was allegedly edited to remove the dog. And the remains of Toby are reportedly missing. Either Toby didn't exist or somebody has hidden his remains to muddy the waters.
    Anyone that calls a German Shepherd an Alsatian should be shot in both feet.


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    #604
    baldbear
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    Raheem Euro wrote: »
    The video was allegedly edited to remove the dog. And the remains of Toby are reportedly missing. Either Toby didn't exist or somebody has hidden his remains to muddy the waters.
    Anyone that calls a German Shepherd an Alsatian should be shot in both feet.

    Surely the dog would be easily located if they existed at all.


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    #605
    seamus
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    Of course they've taken the remains, probably burned them on Monday night.

    They smell a big compo claim here, it's important to pretend there was no dog.


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    #606
    BattleCorp
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    Raheem Euro wrote: »
    The video was allegedly edited to remove the dog. And the remains of Toby are reportedly missing. Either Toby didn't exist or somebody has hidden his remains to muddy the waters.
    Anyone that calls a German Shepherd an Alsatian should be shot in both feet.

    Surprised we can't hear the dog in the video clip if there was one.


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    #607
    Raheem Euro
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    baldbear wrote: »
    Surely the dog would be easily located if they existed at all.

    If it was burnt/buried/thrown in a river?


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    #608
    baldbear
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    Raheem Euro wrote: »
    If it was burnt/buried/thrown in a river?

    If the dog was shot & the Stokes chap was shot in the foot then back up would of arrived very quick so surely there wasn't time to remove the dog?


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    #609
    White Clover
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    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Can anybody confirm if there was a dog just outside of the camera angle?

    Fcuked if I could see or hear a dog.

    And media reports mention that the dog has now vanished?


    You can clearly hear your wan say "you shot the dog"


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    #610
    Nekarsulm
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    We are years behind the UK in some aspects of policing.
    A "body worn" camera would be so valuable in instances like this.
    Just slide down the lens cover, and you are recording.
    You can buy a dash-cam for 50 euro, so its not the cost of the equipment that prevents their introduction.


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    #611
    Gravelly
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    White Clover wrote: »
    You can clearly hear your wan say "you shot the dog"

    She'll probably claim she meant her husband.


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    #612
    Raheem Euro
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    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Surprised we can't hear the dog in the video clip if there was one.

    I would expect to both see and hear it in an unedited recording of events. Conclusion - either there was no dog or we've not seen an unedited recording of events.


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    #613
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    The shot lads sister said no dog was shot in the incident.
    It’s a motal sin a man got shot a motal sin gbh


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    #614
    Plumbthedepths
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    Nekarsulm wrote:
    We are years behind the UK in some aspects of policing. A "body worn" camera would be so valuable in instances like this. Just slide down the lens cover, and you are recording. You can buy a dadh-cam for 50 euro, so its not the cost of the equipment that prevents their introduction.


    Tbh a body cam on a detective defeats the purpose of wearing plain clothes.


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    #615
    Raheem Euro
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    baldbear wrote: »
    If the dog was shot & the Stokes chap was shot in the foot then back up would of arrived very quick so surely there wasn't time to remove the dog?

    Backup. Hundreds of cops arriving moments later.SWAT. Helicopters.

    Get real.


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    #616
    ohnonotgmail
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    If there was no dog who or what were they saying "watch him watch him" to?


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    #617
    Gravelly
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    Omari Round Muck wrote: »
    The shot lads sister said no dog was shot in the incident.
    It’s a motal sin a man got shot a motal sin gbh

    I see "gbh" after a lot of the comments - what does it mean?


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    #618
    Plumbthedepths
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    Raheem Euro wrote:
    I would expect to both see and hear it in an unedited recording of events. Conclusion - either there was no dog or we've not seen an unedited recording of events.


    There is people in the background behind the guard. I'm sure when an investigation is carried out the presence or absence of a dog will be confirmed. I wouldn't believe a calendar that was in the possession of a Traveller.


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    #619
    Raheem Euro
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    There is people in the background behind the guard. I'm sure when an investigation is carried out the presence or absence of a dog will be confirmed. I wouldn't believe a calendar that was in the possession of a Traveller.

    There might not be any independent witnesses. Both the camp dwellers and the truck owner are involved to an extent.


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    #620
    ohnonotgmail
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    Gravelly wrote: »
    I see "gbh" after a lot of the comments - what does it mean?


    Grievous Bodily Harm.


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    #621
    josip
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    There'll be dog saliva on the tie.

    Unless the full, unedited camera footage is made available it will be inadmissible and worthless.


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    #622
    jjmcclure
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    Simple conclusion is that "Mr Stokes" and the dog didn't get it for nothing.


    More of this please, its time the "travellers" were as afraid of the cops as the general population are of the travellers.



    Pity he didn't let rip with a sub machine gun. Save a fortune in fraudulent welfare claims.


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    #623
    Plumbthedepths
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    Raheem Euro wrote:
    There might not be any indepedent witnesses. Both the camp dwellers and the truck owner are involved to an extent.


    I said behind the guard you can see people. Those people will be asked for statements, hopefully they will do so. Unless an unedited version of the recording exists the version we have seen will not form part of a case.


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    #624
    seamus
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    If there was no dog who or what were they saying "watch him watch him" to?
    Exactly.

    If there was no dog:

    - What was Mr. Stokes holding with his right arm at the start of the video?
    - What grabbed the Garda's tie?
    - When the Garda said, "I'll put a bullet in his head, get him to let go", what was he talking about? A dwarf?
    - What did the Garda shoot at?

    There's too much evidence here that a dog was there, the fact that it can't be seen in a shaky video which is pointed at chest height for almost the entire time, doesn't negate the evidence above.


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    #625
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    Gravelly wrote: »
    I see "gbh" after a lot of the comments - what does it mean?

    God Bless Him/Her


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    #626
    Raheem Euro
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I said behind the guard you can see people. Those people will be asked for statements, hopefully they will do so. Unless an unedited version of the recording exists the version we have seen will not form part of a case.

    Those people are probably cousins, brothers or neighbours of Hoppy. If there is a conflicting version of events you can be sure that Hoppy
    His sister and fellow camp dwellers present one version and the garda and truck owner another.
    Not 'independent' witnesses'. Not unbiased.


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    #627
    TCM
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    BattleCorp wrote:
    And what then, watch yer man in the truck getting battered to death?

    BattleCorp wrote:
    Fcuk that.


    Don't be s hysterical.


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    #628
    Plumbthedepths
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    Raheem Euro wrote:
    Those people are probably cousins, brothers or neighbours of Hoppy. If there is a conflicting version of events you can be sure that Hoppy His sister and fellow camp dwellers present one version and the garda and truck owner another. Not 'independent' witnesses'. Not unbiased.

    Since neither you or know definitely the identity of the people behind the guard they equally could be motorists trying to continue their journey but where hindered. As an aside the guards evidence and that of the driver will carry more weight than the aggressor.


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    #629
    zapitastas
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    On the surface it looks like an overreaction but it is not unusual for the protagonists in this story to be familiar with firearms themselves which I imagine is why the detective has his weapon drawn.


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    #630
    Gravelly
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    God Bless Him/Her

    Ah! I was reading it as grievous bodily harm but it didn't seem to make a lot of sense!


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    #631
    ohnonotgmail
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    zapitastas wrote: »
    On the surface it looks like an overreaction but it is not unusual for the protagonists in this story to be familiar with firearms themselves which I imagine is why the detective has his weapon drawn.


    It has been reported that the had a slash hook which is why the guard drew his weapon.


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