Formula 1 2019 - General Discussion Thread

El_Duderino 09

Harika wrote: »

https://mobile.twitter.com/harrismonkey/status/1149011037666140160

Chris Harris finally got a can in his hands

Had a can last weekend and i noticed it's made in Austria. Please tell me it's made in the Red Bull factory.

It's marketing itself as a premium British brand. Its going on sale in Holton Hotels and Grosvner casinos. There's no doubt that it's just a basic energy drink. But it could make it big yet. Stranger things have happened.

Edit:hurt saw the bit about them parting with HAAS. Presumably they couldn't actually pay for the sponsorship.

Harika

Wednesday they were looking forward to the race, today they depart. Seems like Haas asked for a cheque that doesn't bounce.

mickdw

Scumbags. That kind of messing could take down an F1 team. Saying that, every man woman and child in Ireland could have told Haas to steer clear. Force India administrator saw straight through them, Williams didn't bite either so it's hard to have much sympathy for Haas.
Rich energy couldn't have such a clause re finishing near the back the odd time in the contract so I guess it's yet another lawsuit coming their way.
I guess they were a front for shady money. The whyte bikes fiasco might have put too much heat on the source of that money so the plug is pulled.
Last thing a shady business needs is a judge requesting all details of your business accounting.
It's quite funny that shady and all as they are, it's the stupidity of copying the logo that takes them down.

Infoanon

Williams where all set to sign a deal,except Rich Energy decided to talk to Gunther while Claire was stood up on a dinner meeting where the deal was supposed to be signed .....

Glico Man

https://twitter.com/aaron_harrison/status/1054301221480218624?s=19

I'll clutch that straw again if I may.

Haha, suckers!

And such an unclassy way to depart. Expected though and good riddance to the con-man, snake oil salesman in charge.

El_Duderino 09

mickdw wrote: »

Scumbags. That kind of messing could take down an F1 team. Saying that, every man woman and child in Ireland could have told Haas to steer clear. Force India administrator saw straight through them, Williams didn't bite either so it's hard to have much sympathy for Haas.
Rich energy couldn't have such a clause re finishing near the back the odd time in the contract so I guess it's yet another lawsuit coming their way.
I guess they were a front for shady money. The whyte bikes fiasco might have put too much heat on the source of that money so the plug is pulled.
Last thing a shady business needs is a judge requesting all details of your business accounting.
It's quite funny that shady and all as they are, it's the stupidity of copying the logo that takes them down.

It could be shady money. But it's just so public to sponsor a F1 team that I think its just the oldest trick in the book. I think they promised sponsorship money and hoped to get the money before the money was due. But the deals with the casino and hotel chain I mentioned were not quick enough or numerous enough to get them the money they needed.

I think Carabao energy drinks did the same thing by sponsoring sports before they actually had a product widely available. Imagine the promises they probably made to haas.

The old adage "if it seems too good to be true...."

Nic_Col

Haas should just say nothing and turn up with the usual livery with the stolen logo returned but the words rich energy replaced with Whyte Bikes.

Rich Energy have persistently behaved like scumbags, Haas will win on the double, they will no longer have to be associated with a toxic brand, and they'll successfully sue for breach of contract. Not that Rich Energy will have a dime left to pay out on any court ordered compensation of course.

Charlie-Bravo

https://www.instagram.com/p/BzxRLW-Baoq/?igshid=17jup6q0r1yaq

The Haas team have refused to comment on matters. Sounds like it's going legal big time.

flazio

Same thing in a tweet.
https://twitter.com/HaasF1Team/status/1149234399982100481?s=19
Media day in Silverstone, it'll be interesting to see what the car looks like when built.

deafroadrunner

Autosport posted a story about it. Apprently the investors are trying to save the deal

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/144709/rich-energy-investors-trying-to-salvage-haas-deal

Joeface

are HAAS really even hurt by this , I assume they paid HASS money to be on the car . And I am sure the due diligence by HAAS negotiators meant they saw what money was there and that it was real .

they are probably down money over the year but they should be able to pick up a another title sponsor handy enough and I am pretty sure they would win any court outing against Rich energy .

flazio

Meanwhile, Williams are just a little bit more secure.
https://twitter.com/WilliamsRacing/status/1149242393214029824?s=19

Frank Bullitt

The new rumour is that Storey sent the tweet after he was fired by the board...this is fantastic.

Frank Bullitt

https://twitter.com/rich_energy/status/1149385021750464512

It keeps on going...

Harika

Gintonious wrote: »

https://twitter.com/rich_energy/status/1149385021750464512

It keeps on going...

Twitter has technical issues. :pac:

guess it is that
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/rich-energy-ceo-haas-coup-tweet/4492868/

“The ludicrous statement by minority shareholders cosy with @redbull & @WhyteBikes is risible. Their attempted palace coup has failed. I control all of the assets of @rich_energy & have support of all key stakeholders”.

AMKC

flazio wrote: »

Meanwhile, Williams are just a little bit more secure.
https://twitter.com/WilliamsRacing/status/1149242393214029824?s=19

Great to see Williams having long time sponsership and it must be working for Rokit too. Now if Williams could just get there act together and make a fast car. Any more on the rumours of them changing engine supplier?

Charlie-Bravo

Pure entertainment in the replies

https://twitter.com/86danaaa86/status/1149388676629221376?s=09

skipper_G

astrofluff wrote: »

Pure entertainment in the replies

https://twitter.com/86danaaa86/status/1149388676629221376?s=09

There's some quality gags in the replies

Charlie-Bravo

https://twitter.com/rich_energy/status/1149670559296307200?s=19

This is the latest in the saga. Not clear who posted this one but looks like Storey has lost the plot.

Frank Bullitt

So Haas won't deal with Rich Energy while Storey is still there, incredible stuff.

Charlie-Bravo

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/whyte-bikes-rich-energy-logo-case/4493480/

Whyte bikes didn't get their court costs from either Rich Energy or the logo designer so are now seeking a petition to wind up the companies!!

Harika

https://mobile.twitter.com/rich_energy/status/1149924686807076864

That will be fun for the insolvency manager to unravel

mickdw

It's all very funny and appears that it's just Storey sending out random tweets but surely they have at this stage paid Haas millions of Pounds and there must be a professional board somewhere within this business.

dublinman1990

Haas still have the Rich Energy logo displayed on their cars this weekend at Silverstone. Are Haas going to keep it for a little bit longer though as in keeping the logo will only become a temporary part of the process of these developments? What I don't get either from this spat between Haas & Rich Energy is why would Rich Energy try & link the argument with leaving Haas with having both internal politics & PC elements within F1?

Are they or Storey spouting a load of crap with that tweet?

Harika

As rich energy is not producing drinks, the stakeholders can create a new company called gold energy and send money to Haas.

pjohnson

SportPesa have pledged to donate 1000 to cancer research for every position Stroll and Perez make up from the grid to the chequered flag from now until seasons end. Lance's chronic inability to qualify + his generally good racing/tyre management will now be helping a great cause!

dublinman1990

Top Gear on BBC Two is doing a piece on the Lotus 79 F1 Car now.

AMKC

dublinman1990 wrote: »

Top Gear on BBC Two is doing a piece on the Lotus 79 F1 Car now.

Just caught it. That was very good. The cricket had the times and recordings all fecked up do.

It is on again tomorrow evening Top Gear that is on BBC 2 at 7pm for anyone wanting to see that bit on the Lotus 79.

elperello

This was mentioned on TV today.
Tribute to Charlie Whiting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq1clvGNsS4

Jordan 199

Kimi is having a very good season so far at Alfa Romeo. Currently 8th in the standings and scored points in 7 out of 10 races.