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    #152
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    MemphisBelle1 wrote: »
    18% is literally 18 million voters,
    how is that "insignificant"

    Could you or those who thanked this post explain how 18 percent = 18mn in the German election?

    Even including those that can't vote, afd got 4.8mn votes, barely a quarter of what is being claimed. You might as well be trying to claim Michael D got 55mn votes last month.


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    #153
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    gw80 wrote: »
    Christ almighty, you have some hard on for nazis,.

    It's almost as if Nazis are relevant in a thread about Nazis....


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    #154
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    professore wrote: »
    Read the old testament. Similar stuff in there.

    Hardly anyone in Christianity follows the old testament


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    #155
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Immigrant families grow smaller the longer they've been resident in western states. You might consider that fact before dispensing your 'wisdom'.

    Good point but our native population is almost below replacement levels. Sure they drop from 8 kids to 4 kids but that is as fast as binary fission


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    #156
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Immigrant families grow smaller the longer they've been resident in western states. You might consider that fact before dispensing your 'wisdom'.

    That maybe true but I think the damage has already been done when immigrants go ahead and have 7 or 8 kids. Those kids will then go on to have maybe 3 or 4 kids still population replacement.


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    #157
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Grayson wrote: »
    Collective punishment?

    What makes our country better than somewhere like saudi is that we have rights. All citizens do. Removing rights from someone is something we should never consider. If someones committed a crime, even terrorism, try them and if they're guilty, lock them up. We have due process for a reason.

    We remove loads of rights of prisoners when we put them in jail, that is to protect common decent people from them. You dont think citizenship/passports have ever been removed from certain individuals before this? If they are a danger to our country why should we spend money on retaining them in the height of luxury, when we can brand them NVE (not valid for Europe) and return them from whence they came? African states have done it loads of times with suspected mercenaries with the exception of Mark Thatcher.


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    #158
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    At the end of the day this is our country it belongs to us. We have the right to defend our borders and our country we have the right to close the doors to migrants if we please. I believe we should adopt an Australian style points system we should only use migration to benefit ourselves where vacancies arise and there a demand for labour in particular sectors. Migration should be for the benefit of our economy first and foremost and not the benefit of migrants and their families.

    I also believe we should be prioritising migrants based on how easy it is for them to culturally assimilate ie migrants from other first world countries should be prioritised over migrants from the third world who as a matter of fact are harder to integrate into our societies. At the end of the day we have to prioritise the ethnic Irish over migrants. Japan puts it's own first but no one acuses them of racism.


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    #159
    John Sacrimoni
    Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭John Sacrimoni


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    At the end of the day this is our country it belongs to us. We have the right to defend our borders and our country we have the right to close the doors to migrants if we please. I believe we should adopt an Australian style points system we should only use migration to benefit ourselves where vacancies arise and there a demand for labour in particular sectors. Migration should be for the benefit of our economy first and foremost and not the benefit of migrants and their families.

    I also believe we should be prioritising migrants based on how easy it is for them to culturally assimilate ie migrants from other first world countries should be prioritised over migrants from the third world who as a matter of fact are harder to integrate into our societies. At the end of the day we have to prioritise the ethnic Irish over migrants. Japan puts it's own first but no one acuses them of racism.

    Sensible post.


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    #160
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    At the end of the day this is our country it belongs to us. We have the right to defend our borders and our country we have the right to close the doors to migrants if we please. I believe we should adopt an Australian style points system we should only use migration to benefit ourselves where vacancies arise and there a demand for labour in particular sectors. Migration should be for the benefit of our economy first and foremost and not the benefit of migrants and their families.

    I also believe we should be prioritising migrants based on how easy it is for them to culturally assimilate ie migrants from other first world countries should be prioritised over migrants from the third world who as a matter of fact are harder to integrate into our societies. At the end of the day we have to prioritise the ethnic Irish over migrants. Japan puts it's own first but no one acuses them of racism.


    Yes, regularily.


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    #161
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Yes, regularily.

    So you criticise a nation with an immensely proud heritage and culture which is socially and technogically light years ahead of us here in the West because they chose to defend it's society, heritage and culture. Well done I'm sure most Japanese people are laughing their heads off at you.


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    #162
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Yes, regularily.

    You mean if you are not there for business or tourism then get out? Yup that seems fair to me?

    Do you have a criminal record? We need to protect our citizens! that seems fair to me.

    My my what a fancy camera, 60 meters of det cord and some soft material that resembles Marzipan in 1lb packages? You arent coming in.

    So you are coming to Japan with no Travel insurance, No money, no skill set and no one to meet you? You arent coming in.

    I want to let you in but this shower called Interpol have you on a "Whats Hot" list. You arent coming in.

    Looks like reasonable refusals to me.


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    #163
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    You mean if (................) refusals to me.




    "Nearly a third of foreigners living in Japan say they have experienced derogatory remarks because of their background, while about 40% have suffered housing discrimination, according to a landmark survey."
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/31/japan-racism-survey-reveals-one-in-three-foreigners-experience-discrimination


    .".. Japan makes a push to join the U.N. Security Council, it is getting some unwelcome news. An independent investigator from the U.N. Commission on Human Rights says he will report that discrimination in Japan is "deep and profound."

    https://web.archive.org/web/20090204153432/http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2005-07/2005-07-11-voa9.cfm


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    #164
    OneEightSeven
    Registered Users Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭OneEightSeven


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    Good point but our native population is almost below replacement levels. Sure they drop from 8 kids to 4 kids but that is as fast as binary fission


    Actually it is below replacement level. Our fertility rate is 1.80, which is the lowest in the state's history.


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    #165
    Stephen15
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    Odhinn wrote: »
    "Nearly a third of foreigners living in Japan say they have experienced derogatory remarks because of their background, while about 40% have suffered housing discrimination, according to a landmark survey."
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/31/japan-racism-survey-reveals-one-in-three-foreigners-experience-discrimination


    .".. Japan makes a push to join the U.N. Security Council, it is getting some unwelcome news. An independent investigator from the U.N. Commission on Human Rights says he will report that discrimination in Japan is "deep and profound."

    https://web.archive.org/web/20090204153432/http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2005-07/2005-07-11-voa9.cfm

    Where do you get this nonsense from. Japan is probably the most socially and technogically advanced country in the world. I don't think most Japanaese people really care what the Guardian thinks of them. Also why have you posted an article dated 2005. At the end of the day Japan is dead right prioritising it's own over forgeiners more countries including Ireland should do the same.


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    #166
    Dr. Bre
    Registered Users Posts: 7,578 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Genderation identity more like


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    #167
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Where do you get this nonsense from. Japan is probably the most socially and technogically advanced country in the world. I don't think most Japanaese people really care what the Guardian thinks of them. Also why have you posted an article dated 2005. At the end of the day Japan is dead right prioritising it's own over forgeiners more countries including Ireland should do the same.




    So you're saying that the accusation of Japanese racism is not true, and - in the same paragraph - accept it is true and approve of it.


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    #168
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Odhinn wrote: »
    So you're saying that the accusation of Japanese racism is not true, and - in the same paragraph - accept it is true and approve of it.

    It's not racist to prioritise natives in their homeland.


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    #169
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    It's not racist to prioritise natives in their homeland.


    So you accept that the Japanese discriminate against others then?


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    #170
    zapitastas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 498 ✭✭zapitastas


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Where do you get this nonsense from. Japan is probably the most socially and technogically advanced country in the world. I don't think most Japanaese people really care what the Guardian thinks of them. Also why have you posted an article dated 2005. At the end of the day Japan is dead right prioritising it's own over forgeiners more countries including Ireland should do the same.

    That discrimination spreads beyond their own shores also some Japanese run clubs and bars tend to refuse entry to anyone not Japanese in cities like Singapore. Is bizarre to say the least and wouldn't endear themselves over the policy


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    #171
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Hardly anyone in Christianity follows the old testament

    The Jews do though.


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    #172
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Odhinn wrote: »
    So you accept that the Japanese discriminate against others then?

    So I take you believe forgeiners should be given if you crictising Japan for not giving houses to forgeiners. I don't care if they discriminate against others it's their country they can do what they like their not hurting anyone from other countries but I do think we should take a leaf out of their book.


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    #173
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    It's not racist to prioritise natives in their homeland.

    You said about Japan that "no one accuses them of racism".

    This has been proven incorrect beyond dispute. Just because you don't consider them racist doesn't mean nobody does. Irrefutable examples of them being accused of racism - which is what you said nobody accuses them of - were given.

    Best to just accept you were wrong there and carry on.


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    #174
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 28,998 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    So I take you believe forgeiners should be given if you crictising Japan for not giving houses to forgeiners. I don't care if they discriminate against others it's their country they can do what they like their not hurting anyone from other countries but I do think we should take a leaf out of their book.

    it may be their country, but they don't have a right to engage in discrimination. no country has a right to do what it likes, and if a country is involved in discrimination, it is hurting those it discriminates against. not a chance should we take a leaf out of their book.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #175
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Billy86 wrote: »
    You said about Japan that "no one accuses them of racism".

    This has been proven incorrect beyond dispute. Just because you don't consider them racist doesn't mean nobody does. Irrefutable examples of them being accused of racism - which is what you said nobody accuses them of - were given.

    Best to just accept you were wrong there and carry on.

    It was hardly highly publicised that Japan is racist which it isn't might I add.


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    #176
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    So I take you believe forgeiners should be given if you crictising Japan for not giving houses to forgeiners. I don't care if they discriminate against others it's their country they can do what they like their not hurting anyone from other countries but I do think we should take a leaf out of their book.


    So you now accept Japanese racism and think we should be so ourselves. Lovely.


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    #177
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    It was hardly highly publicised that Japan is racist which it isn't might I add.




    But you agreed that it is
    At the end of the day Japan is dead right prioritising it's own over forgeiners more countries including Ireland should do the same.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=108754740&postcount=165

    I don't care if they discriminate against others it's their country they can do what they like their not hurting anyone from other countries but I do think we should take a leaf out of their book.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=108754884&postcount=172


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    #178
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    It was hardly highly publicised that Japan is racist which it isn't might I add.

    So you were wrong.

    Also, are we talking about the same Japan that has been opening its borders more and more, and has committed to 500,000 foreign workers this year on top of extending and expanding visa programs due to their previous method proving unsustainable as the working population has dropped 10mn over the last 20 years and the number of pensions to pay keeps on growing?

    It seems they're no longer so fond of their own old policies anymore, either.


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    #179
    Stephen15
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    end of the road wrote: »
    it may be their country, but they don't have a right to engage in discrimination. no country has a right to do what it likes, and if a country is involved in discrimination, it is hurting those it discriminates against. not a chance should we take a leaf out of their book.

    So putting your own is discrimination now is it? It benefits the Japanese people who live in Japan. Like it or not Japan is a very highly regarded country as it's very technologically advanced more so than any other country in the world it's highly regarded for being highly civilised.

    Also when was the last time you heard of an Islamic terror attack on the streets of Tokyo or riots in a ghetto populated by forgeiners in Japan something that happens regularly in Europe.


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    #180
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    It was hardly highly publicised that Japan is racist which it isn't might I add.

    So you now at least know you were wrong. Understood.

    Also, are we talking about the same Japan that has been opening its borders more and more, and has committed to 500,000 foreign workers this year on top of extending and expanding visa programs due to their previous method proving unsustainable as the working population has dropped 10mn over the last 20 years and the number of pensions to pay keeps on growing?

    It seems they're no longer so fond of their own old policies anymore, either.


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    #181
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Odhinn wrote: »
    But you agreed that it is

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=108754740&postcount=165

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=108754884&postcount=172

    Your the one who thinks Japan is racist not me. I don't think it's racist to prioritise you own people nor do I or I'm sure most Japanese people care if you think they are racist fact is they are not. It's not racist to prioritise a nations own people.


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