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    #92
    The Bishop Basher
    Registered Users Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭The Bishop Basher


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Can you prove that we have more to fear from today's far left? Sources please.

    For starters, I was stating an opinion. This isn't school. I don't jump to attention when you shout and I don't have to provide you with sources to prove anything..

    I agree that extremes on both ends of the spectrum are equally dangerous..

    However in my experience the far right wing groups are obvious and known..

    The current attack from the left is much more insidious because it has the support of both the media and government..

    Varadker's social media unit being a classic example of politics going wrong..

    On that note to take a very obvious example, Varadker saying he was going to take care of those of us who get up for work in the morning and then rewarding welfare recipients with exactly the same, if not more then those of us who pay the bills and keep the lights on in the last 3 successive budgets.

    He let on he was right of centre but swung wildly left the second he got hold of the reins.

    Then we have this third wave feminism nonsense with TD's holding up knickers in the Dail and trials falling flat on the back of the hysteria created..

    Then we have the science deniers who want to rewrite biology and any semblance of common sense so that a tiny fraction of the population can feel a bit more comfortable in themselves...

    Don't get me wrong, I voted yes in the last 2 referendums, i'm all on for inclusion, but not at any price.

    I could keep going but I won't.

    I personally feel that my liberty is more under attack from the left just now.

    It's an opinion, nothing more. You don't have to agree, and i certainly don't have to prove it.


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    #93
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 37,692 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Em... It's a message board. My capacity to compel you to do anything is non-existent so I don't know why you would even mention that.

    The far right's support base in the establishment, their attempts to rebrand and the fact that their man is in the White House mean that they're the bigger threat, no question.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    #94
    The Bishop Basher
    Registered Users Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭The Bishop Basher


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    The far right's support base in the establishment, their attempts to rebrand and the fact that their man is in the White House mean that they're the bigger threat, no question.

    I despise the man..

    And he can lie like the best of them..

    But he does what he says he'll do..

    He puts America and it's people first exactly as he promised.

    That's why he'll get a second term..

    I'd be willing to take a punt that Varadker won't for the opposite reason.


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    #95
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Rennaws wrote: »
    I despise the man..

    And he can lie like the best of them..

    But he does what he says he'll do..

    He puts America and it's people first exactly as he promised.

    That's why he'll get a second term..

    I'd be willing to take a punt that Varadker won't for the opposite reason.

    Oh for...

    No, he hasn't done anything for the people. He got some coal mines re-opened and a lot of those have ended up closing anyway.

    He puts himself and those like him first. Look at the tax cuts he's implemented.

    He's actively tried to remove the most decent healthcare system they had.


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    #96
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 37,692 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Rennaws wrote: »
    I despise the man..

    And he can lie like the best of them..

    But he does what he says he'll do..

    He puts America and it's people first exactly as he promised.

    That's why he'll get a second term..

    I'd be willing to take a punt that Varadker won't for the opposite reason.

    He's only put himself, the swamp and neonazi's first as far as I can tell.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    #97
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    I love that you say Obama was a radical liberal, but I'm so very sure I've also seen you go on about Obama's various wars over his 8 years.

    One of these things is not like the other.

    I think only the actual far right tend to claim Obama as radical. Most European politicians must be revolutionaries by that logic.


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    #98
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Rennaws wrote: »
    Then we have this third wave feminism nonsense with TD's holding up knickers in the Dail and trials falling flat on the back of the hysteria created..

    I'm no fan of the insanity that can happen in some sectors of 3rd Wave Feminism (eg Feminist Frequency) what you're referring to in no way counts as 'third wave feminism nonsense'


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    #99
    MemphisBelle1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8 ✭MemphisBelle1


    I think it's safe to say the RIGHTWING are winning the online battle
    especially the herat and minds of GENERATION Z
    all the left have to offer is no-platforming, shutting down free speech
    the right WING are offering free speech


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    #100
    Ipso
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    Sonics2k wrote: »
    I love that you say Obama was a radical liberal, but I'm so very sure I've also seen you go on about Obama's various wars over his 8 years.

    One of these things is not like the other.

    The whole Trump being anti Iraq war thing is a bit hilarious. If you jumped into the way back machine to 2003 I'd safely bet my left nut that many of his supporters now were the same people who were calling people who were anti war traitors, anti American and peddled the support our troops don't criticize the president in a time of war nonsense.


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    #101
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    MemphisBelle1 wrote: »
    I think it's safe to say the RIGHTWING are winning the online battle
    especially the herat and minds of GENERATION Z
    all the left have to offer is no-platforming, shutting down free speech
    the right WING are offering free speech

    See, the thing the far right are desperate for is freedom to express as much hate speech as one wants. Eg you go to the likes of Gab which was used by the likes of Milo and the content is hate speech. It's anti semitism and racism. The Synagogue shooter from a few weeks back even had an account which he went on anti semetic and racist rants from.

    So I'd say that quarters of the Internet is more home to people with incredibly hateful views who get annoyed that their views are recognised for what they are.


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    #102
    Stephen15
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    Sonics2k wrote: »
    I'm no fan of the insanity that can happen in some sectors of 3rd Wave Feminism (eg Feminist Frequency) what you're referring to in no way counts as 'third wave feminism nonsense'

    A lot of the so called feminists were very silent during what happened on NYE in Cologne a couple of years ago.


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    #103
    MemphisBelle1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8 ✭MemphisBelle1


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    A lot of the so called feminists were very silent during what happened on NYE in Cologne a couple of years ago.
    The AfD only started 4 years ago, and now have a voter base of 18%


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    #104
    Billy86
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    batgoat wrote: »
    I think only the actual far right tend to claim Obama as radical. Most European politicians must be revolutionaries by that logic.

    Obama according to many of the usual suspects on AH was both a "radical leftist" and "the same as Trump". It just depends which is convenient for them to claim at the time and may not even be intentional on their part, which is pretty standard in cult behaviour.


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    #105
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    MemphisBelle1 wrote: »
    The AfD only started 4 years ago, and now have a voter base of 18%

    I would consider that to be extraordinarily bleak, Germany putting modern day Nazis in any position of power.... I know you may think it's something to celebrate but it really isn't.


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    #106
    MemphisBelle1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8 ✭MemphisBelle1


    batgoat wrote: »
    I would consider that to be extraordinarily bleak, Germany putting modern day Nazis in any position of power.... I know you may think it's something to celebrate but it really isn't.
    18% is literally 18 million voters,
    how is that "insignificant"


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    #107
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    batgoat wrote: »
    I would consider that to be extraordinarily bleak, Germany putting modern day Nazis in any position of power.... I know you may think it's something to celebrate but it really isn't.

    Evidence that they are Nazis? I didn't think that objecting to Merkel's open door policy made you Nazi now.


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    #108
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    MemphisBelle1 wrote: »
    18% is literally 18 million voters,
    how is that "insignificant"

    Where did I say it was insignificant? I said it was bleak because they're recognised as modern Nazis... They are ultra nationalists. They aren't fans of freedom of speech btw which you were only moments ago saying that the right are wonderful for.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/11/afd-tells-german-pupils-to-denounce-teachers-who-discuss-political-views
    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Evidence that they are Nazis? I didn't think that objecting to Merkel's open door policy made you Nazi now.

    Proposing the banning of Mosques isn't simply being anti open doors... It's got plenty in common with nazi policies. They also actively try to gloss over bloody nazism... It was a speck of **** in German epic history according to their leader. Plus y'know they're classified as ultra nationalists... So yep modern Nazis.


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    #109
    Ipso
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    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Evidence that they are Nazis? I didn't think that objecting to Merkel's open door policy made you Nazi now.

    Dig deep enough and you will find an ugly element, they haven't gone away you know.


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    #110
    MemphisBelle1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8 ✭MemphisBelle1


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Evidence that they are Nazis? I didn't think that objecting to Merkel's open door policy made you Nazi now.

    everybody who disagrees with me is a national socialist
    lol
    no wonder the left are losing :)


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    #111
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    MemphisBelle1 wrote: »
    everybody who disagrees with me is a national socialist
    lol
    no wonder the left are losing :)
    Lol, those guys who favour banning Mosques bear no similarities to another point in German history?


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    #112
    Stephen15
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    batgoat wrote: »
    Lol, those guys who favour banning Mosques bear no similarities to another point in German history?

    So the Germans outlaw fascism but another form of fascism called Islam is allowed thrive


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    #113
    MemphisBelle1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8 ✭MemphisBelle1


    batgoat wrote: »
    Lol, those guys who favour banning Mosques bear no similarities to another point in German history?
    i said it directly to everybody
    it's rise of nazism
    1395860521000.jpg


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    #114
    WinnyThePoo
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    A re-reg and a lad who thinks alex jones is a legitimate news source. What a world we live in.


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    #115
    pjohnson
    Registered Users Posts: 23,292 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    MemphisBelle1 wrote: »
    everybody who disagrees with me is a national socialist
    lol
    no wonder the left are losing :)

    Aye Casey won the election.


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    #116
    MemphisBelle1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8 ✭MemphisBelle1


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    A re-reg and a lad who thinks alex jones is a legitimate news source. What a world we live in.
    neck youself commi scum ;)


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    #117
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    So the Germans outlaw fascism but another form of fascism called Islam is allowed thrive

    Cool, so you favour an ultra nationalistic party that favour putting controls on a specific religion including the right to practise and outlawing their worshipping place? So an authoritarian fascistic regime is what you want for Germany? So modern Nazis. Thank you, you've actually proven my point. You agree with them so you refuse to see what gets them labelled as Nazis.


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    #118
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    batgoat wrote: »
    Cool, so you favour an ultra nationalistic party that favour putting controls on a specific religion including the right to practise and outlawing their worshipping place? So an authoritarian fascistic regime is what you want for Germany? So modern Nazis. Thank you, you've actually proven my point. You agree with them so you refuse to see what gets them labelled as Nazis.

    Islam is not a religion, its is a many faceted Socio-political movement. It has never been successfully reformed in 1000 years? It has economic, legal, dietary, political and other elements to it. Progressive, it ain't with left ideals. Oh its all there Taqqiya, Jizya, Jihad, Halal, Dhimmi.... its all there


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    #119
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    batgoat wrote: »
    Cool, so you favour an ultra nationalistic party that favour putting controls on a specific religion including the right to practise and outlawing their worshipping place? So an authoritarian fascistic regime is what you want for Germany? So modern Nazis. Thank you, you've actually proven my point. You agree with them so you refuse to see what gets them labelled as Nazis.

    Islam is more than just a religion it's an ideology similar to fascism and communism. Many democratic countries outlaw the ideology of fascism for example but don't outlaw similar ideologies such as Communism and Islam even though they have similar ideals to fascism.

    Geert Wilders made an excellent point a few years ago when the Dutch Parliament outlawed 'Mein Kampf' that if 'Mein Kampf' is to be banned than so should the Qur'an to follow up on the policy of banning extreme books.

    Islam poses a threat to western society as Allah promises that one day the entire world will be under Islamic rule meaning that freedom of speech and democracy will be outlawed and women's rights will be violated as there will be Sharia Law which is absolutely not compatible with western values.


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    #120
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Aye Casey won the election.

    I wouldnt say that Casey won the election but he certainly did probably 600% better than I expected. He appeal to an aspect of the Irish voters who are tired of seeing getting away with everything and are beyond the rule of law. It was at the cost of Sinn Fein.


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    #121
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    Islam is not a religion, its is a many faceted Socio-political movement. It has never been successfully reformed in 1000 years? It has economic, legal, dietary, political and other elements to it. Progressive, it ain't with left ideals. Oh its all there Taqqiya, Jizya, Jihad, Halal, Dhimmi.... its all there

    So outlaw a religion? You subscribe to restricting religious beliefs. You could hear this exact type of line " It has economic, legal, dietary, political and other elements to it." on Judaism during the 1930s. That's a fact.
    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Islam is more than just a religion it's an ideology similar to fascism and communism. Many democratic countries outlaw the ideology of fascism for example but don't outlaw similar ideologies such as Communism and Islam even though they have similar ideals to fascism.

    Geert Wilders made an excellent point a few years ago when the Dutch Parliament outlawed 'Mein Kampf' that if 'Mein Kampf' is to be banned than so should the Qur'an to follow up on the policy of banning extreme books.

    Islam poses a threat to western society as Allah promises that one day the entire world will be under Islamic rule meaning that freedom of speech and democracy will be outlawed and women's rights will be violated as there will be Sharia Law which is absolutely not compatible with western values.

    I don't actually favour banning books including Mein Kampf, it's an important historical text and illustrates the warped viewpoints and rationales that brought about Nazi German. Your viewpoint on banning a religion is a warped viewpoint. You can claim that Islam is the antithesis of western values but it's radically opposed to western values to ban a religion. I'll say it again, it's fascistic.
    Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

    http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/

    The above text was adopted in 1948 in the wake of WW2 because of the breach of human rights that had occurred. You two actively oppose it. AfD also actively oppose it. You can claim what you support is justified or civilised, just in the same way the Nazis did. Oh by the by, Geert is also a bit of a fascist so you probably need some better people to look up to cause you seem to think the pondscum fascists are the way forward. Thankfully, you're a part of a minority view in this country. It's also a minority view in Germany and most western countries.


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