John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

Chancer3001

Wow. The salary was the biggest stick used to beat delaney.

Now people are already suggesting the new ceo could be paid more...

Didnt see that coming tbf.

Irishmale0399

https://twitter.com/EwanMacKenna/status/1117158378625744896

listermint

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Wow. The salary was the biggest stick used to beat delaney.

Now people are already suggesting the new ceo could be paid more...

Didnt see that coming tbf.

It wasn't though.


Stop being revisionist.

salmocab

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Wow. The salary was the biggest stick used to beat delaney.

Now people are already suggesting the new ceo could be paid more...

Didnt see that coming tbf.

One person not people

chicorytip

Delaney vowed to bring the family name back to the top in the FAI after the forced resignation of his father Joe Delaney, then treasurer of the organisation, in the wake of the "Merriongate" ticket affair. This has been the major motivating factor in his career in football administration so he is not what might be described as a real football man with a genuine passion for and knowledge of the game. He has lacked judgement in relation to certain footballing matters, the Staunton appointment probably the most obvious example amongst many. His replacement as chief executive will need to be somebody with both sound commercial instincts and the requisite "savvy" regarding purely footballing matters. Such an individual could prove very difficult to find. Fintan Drury, possibly, might meet those criteria but please God, let it not be Niall Quinn.

Irishmale0399

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Wow. The salary was the biggest stick used to beat delaney.

Now people are already suggesting the new ceo could be paid more...

Didnt see that coming tbf.

I never had a problem with JDs salary....I had a problem with the fact that he wasnt earning it. He did nothing for the interests of Irish football, he was always doing things to position himself.


1. Grassroots....SI money he handed out.....made sure he was protected.


2. LOI....did sweet FAi for them...fined the arse out of them to keep them in line


3. UEFA interests...taking games/competitions to Ireland....own interest, wants the UEFA gig.


4. Supporters Clubs....he had them all by the curly wurlies....enforcing his power.....


If someone comes in and runs a transparent, clean association, increases revenue, marketing, governance is implimented and supports football in Ireland why shouldnt they earn their money.


Or maybe you can inform us what JD did to justify his salary??? Has he improved the game or its infrastructure in Ireland??? Do you believe he is worth his salary???

Chancer3001

If someone comes in and runs a transparent, clean association, increases revenue, marketing, governance is implimented and supports football in Ireland why shouldnt they earn their money

Some would argue delaney successfully managed to do every one of these things.

I dont know what governance is implimented means tho

listermint

Chancer3001 wrote: »

If someone comes in and runs a transparent, clean association, increases revenue, marketing, governance is implimented and supports football in Ireland why shouldnt they earn their money

Some would argue delaney successfully managed to do every one of these things.

I dont know what governance is implimented means tho

No one would argue that

Bar you.

Of course

secman

Chancer3001 wrote: »

I dont know what governance is implimented means tho

Well that there fully explains your moronic posts, thanks for clearing that up for us, cheers.

expectationlost

godtabh wrote: »

UEFA rules dont allow it if he goes

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=109921826&postcount=2268

Arghus

Chancer3001 wrote: »

If someone comes in and runs a transparent, clean association, increases revenue, marketing, governance is implimented and supports football in Ireland why shouldnt they earn their money

Some would argue delaney successfully managed to do every one of these things.

I dont know what governance is implimented means tho

At the very least you can't say that Delaney ran a transparent organisation.

Now, I know that you will claim that he did, but you can't mean that seriously.

salmocab

FAI are not a normal business, turning a profit is important but unlike other businesses they have to see the game do well or flourish here and it certainly isn’t. Infrastructure is only a small bit of it, which by the way they aren’t doing well at at all. GAA and rugby clubs are well ahead of soccer on that curve even hockey clubs seem to all have decent pitches and lights.
I would think that underage coaching and structures are the most important things for the FAI and presuming it’s a results based industry they are failing at that.
The international team should be the cherry and on top of the organization and it’s hardly been pulling up trees for the last long while.

Necro

Chancer3001 wrote: »

If someone comes in and runs a transparent, clean association, increases revenue, marketing, governance is implimented and supports football in Ireland why shouldnt they earn their money

Some would argue delaney successfully managed to do every one of these things.

I dont know what governance is implimented means tho

The only ones arguing that are the ones that Delaney gave handouts to. And Michael Healy-Rae, but he's a moron.

Transparent - why not answer questions on the 100k, why try to get an injunction to stop the information being released, etc.

Clean - see above, also the account issues with payments to Dundalk/separate UEFA account. Questionable ethics, Board members staying beyond advised terms.

Increase revenue - it's actually decreased now as SI have stopped funding - because of actions taken by Delaney and the board.

Marketing - Football while arguably more played than the other field sports is languishing behind the other two in GAA and Rugby in terms of marketing. All under his watch.

Governance being implemented - Yeah, fining clubs for supporters protesting against the board seems to work. The Leinster Senior League and their clubs seem really happy with the governance being implemented too based off reports today.

Chancer3001

Ive outlined all the things delaney has done before. Its in the thread somewhere.

The deal he got for the aviva is amazing.

Futsal introduced.

More development officers than ever.

Introductuon of the u13, 15, 17 and 19 leagues.

Serious investment in facilities all over the country.

Hired some of the best managers we could possibly attract to our mens senior team.

More masters leagues for older players

Intro of walking football

FAI consistent profit for 10 years in a row.

Well thought out player development plan initiative.

Increase in primary school soccer competitions with good investors on board.

A quality emerging talent programme

Nice community link with the noel o reilly league

Something like 10,000 coaches attending workshops per year.

monkey9

Deleted User wrote: »

Time to start thinking about his legacy.

For me, he should always be remembered for that awkward time he thought his love life was a matter of public interest. Him and his "cum fashion show organiser"...it was just so wonderfully...pathetic.

https://www.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-news/the-edge-john-delaney-and-emma-english-heating-up-marbella-30764240.html

"Others who joined them in the Bath included Ronnie Whelan......"

Explains why Ronnie was so annoyed with the tennis balls :rolleyes:

Fr Tod Umptious

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

I never had a problem with JDs salary....I had a problem with the fact that he wasnt earning it. He did nothing for the interests of Irish football, he was always doing things to position himself.


1. Grassroots....SI money he handed out.....made sure he was protected.


2. LOI....did sweet FAi for them...fined the arse out of them to keep them in line


3. UEFA interests...taking games/competitions to Ireland....own interest, wants the UEFA gig.


4. Supporters Clubs....he had them all by the curly wurlies....enforcing his power.....


If someone comes in and runs a transparent, clean association, increases revenue, marketing, governance is implimented and supports football in Ireland why shouldnt they earn their money.


Or maybe you can inform us what JD did to justify his salary??? Has he improved the game or its infrastructure in Ireland??? Do you believe he is worth his salary???

You see this is the bit the bugs me.

People claiming that things like the Europa Cup final, Euro 2020 games and the u17 championship were only of benefit to Delaney.

Had JD or the FAI not bothered to try host any of the above the same rabble would be complaining about the FAI not doing anything.

The whole frenzy around Delaney has made people really come up with daft reasons to criticise him.

Chancer3001

Transparent - published accounts available obline to joe public every year

Clean - the dubdalk thing has been explained numerous times. Dundalk are the ones who asled to be paid in installments. When they wanted more (300k) it took a few weeks before they got it. No big whoop.

Increased revenue- has increased substantially since delaney took over.

Marketing - not sure how you can languish so far behind and yet be more popular than other sports. Seems to me theres more people playing organised soccer than ever before.

So yes, you can argue for and against all points.
That was kinda my original argument. Im not saying everything is perfect, or flawless. My point was that things werent bad enough to warrant sacking the man

mikeym

Is he gone yet?

Fr Tod Umptious

yabadabado wrote: »

The FAI is a shambles and the lack of transparecy is shocking.The organisation being run as a fiefdom has to stop.
Speak out against the FAI and watch what happens.The meeting on Wednesday was a slap in the face to everyone who has even a passing interest in football.

Under Delaneys tenure,football has fallen way behind where it was in this country.Too many people happy to be yes men as long as they keep their nose in the trough.

Run the FAI in the best interests of the sport is all anyone can hope for,but imo that hasnt been the case in a long time ,if ever.Ther needs to be a clear plan set out and proper goverance going forward

I could list several other issues/**** up's but I dont want boards getting a solicitors letter on monday.

Is there any factual evidence for that or is there any metric it can be measured by ?

How does one define "way behind where it used to be" ?

monkey9

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I suppose Uefa will take him with open arms!? They’re no strangers to creative expense accounts themselves

I don't think he's able to get a role with UEFA or FIFA unless he has a major role on the board of his own national association like CEO etc. That's why the FAI cronies made up the Vice President role for him the other week. If he's gone from the FAI altogether, he's gone from UEFA or FIFA as far as i know.

Necro

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Transparent - published accounts available obline to joe public every year

Really? Why was the 100k not declared then and why was an injunction taken out to try and prevent the release of this info?

And then why did Delaney stonewall the Oireachtas committee instead of answering the questions?

You seem to be unable to answer this and instead just blow it off with talk of how great Delaney is

expectationlost

monkey9 wrote: »

I don't think he's able to get a role with UEFA or FIFA unless he has a major role on the board of his own national association like CEO etc. That's why the FAI cronies made up the Vice President role for him the other week. If he's gone from the FAI altogether, he's gone from UEFA or FIFA as far as i know.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=109921826&postcount=2268

OldMrBrennan83

How is publishing accounts transparent when they're false?

Also, Futsal? ****ing hell you must near be through that barrel at this stage

secman

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Transparent - published accounts available obline to joe public every year

Clean - the dubdalk thing has been explained numerous times. Dundalk are the ones who asled to be paid in installments. When they wanted more (300k) it took a few weeks before they got it. No big whoop.

Increased revenue- has increased substantially since delaney took over.

Marketing - not sure how you can languish so far behind and yet be more popular than other sports. Seems to me theres more people playing organised soccer than ever before.

So yes, you can argue for and against all points.
That was kinda my original argument. Im not saying everything is perfect, or flawless. My point was that things werent bad enough to warrant sacking the man

Dont forget the 3 bears, Jack and the beanstalk, ... . ...

fullstop

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

How is publishing accounts transparent when they're false?

Also, Futsal? ****ing hell you must near be through that barrel at this stage

Don't forget Walking Football :D:D

sheroman01

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Ive outlined all the things delaney has done before. Its in the thread somewhere.

The deal he got for the aviva is amazing.

Futsal introduced.

More development officers than ever.

Introductuon of the u13, 15, 17 and 19 leagues.

Serious investment in facilities all over the country.

Hired some of the best managers we could possibly attract to our mens senior team.

More masters leagues for older players

Intro of walking football

FAI consistent profit for 10 years in a row.

Well thought out player development plan initiative.

Increase in primary school soccer competitions with good investors on board.

A quality emerging talent programme

Nice community link with the noel o reilly league

Something like 10,000 coaches attending workshops per year.

All very generic and vague points. Would love to see concrete of everything outlined there. And even still, some of those items are to expected. Counter arguments could be made to numerous of them too (big name managers on ridiculous wages and renewing contracts when they never should have been). We all know his intentions - he's self serving and untrustworthy. No competent CEO should ever be surrounded in so much controversy.

secman

mikeym wrote: »

Is he gone yet?

No, unfortunately Chancer is still here

Chancer3001

What kind of concrete examples would you like??

The development squads play every weekend if you want to go to a match.

The futsal all irelamds were on in waterford.

The coaching sessions are all.avaolable on the website if you want to attend.

Theres dozens of new astro turf training and match pitches dotted all over the country. New.dressng rooms too.

Not sure what evidence youre lacking?

As regards the 100k ive posted probabaly 20 times on it. No point repeating myself

secman

Chancer3001 wrote: »

What kind of concrete examples would you like??

The development squads play every weekend if you want to go to a match.

The futsal all irelamds were on in waterford.

The coaching sessions are all.avaolable on the website if you want to attend.

Theres dozens of new astro turf training and match pitches dotted all over the country. New.dressng rooms too.

Not sure what evidence youre lacking?

As regards the 100k ive posted probabaly 20 times on it. No point repeating myself

Yaaaaaaaaaayn..... .

cunnifferous

He's gone by the looks of it!

www.the42.ie/john-delaney-leaving-the-fai-4590636-Apr2019/