John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

kippy

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The ticket sales fiasco was a decade ago. The policy of not answering questions at AGMs goes back years too.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/fai-omerta-leaves-many-questions-unanswered-29437709.html

I can't remember a time when I believed the FAI was being run competently and was accountable.

All we saw in recent years was a man not merely failing to do his job and lurching from ticket sales issues to ticket distribution fiascos to childish rows with the PFAI and the women's team to the complete abdication of responsibility for our league, but a man who was losing touch with reality. Falling around drunk and telling us about his love life?

How did he think he could give a loan of 100k and ignore questions? It's as if by that stage he was so used to doing wrong without challenge, he didn't know right from wrong.

Apologies, I do of course agree. There have been incidents over the past 15 year that lead to this assumption also. The last few months however have ensured Joe Public is in on the revelations. As opposed to Joe soccer public.

OldMrBrennan83

For anyone thinking of signing up to the Times for the stories because they've a free month, read the small print as it's fairly shady around cancelling.

Chancer3001

Just in rrgards to the offer on the premium seats.

I wasnt aware that a 3rd party offeted them 75m for the rights to sell the seats. Looks a great offer initually. Especially as the FAI hasnt sold all the seats on recent reports.

However, i can understabd why they didnt accept it.

The tickrtd were worth abput 200m. So the FAI saw 75m as a lpw ball offer and were confident they could make more money by selling themselves. The recesssion and global downturn didnt help.

Maybe in hindsight taking 75m for 200m worth of tickets woukd have been ok.

But its definitely not some secret shame or fiasco that the board needs sacking over IMO.

Kidchameleon

Cant wait till he's gone

DeanAustin

Necro wrote: »

Jaysus, I'm not paying for the Times Online but what I can read:



Does a CEO really have to pay for meals in his local pub whilst on that kind of salary??

And cash withdrawals... that seems... wrong. No trace of what it can be used for. Pints for the lads I suppose.

You’d be surprised what very wealthy people claim in their expenses. I’ve seen it first hand - for example, a multi millionaire claiming €15 bank charges on what we transferred them despite being paid 15k for one meeting a quarter and being wined and dined by the company for that week. If he can claim it’s work related, technically he could be okay.

The cash is a horse of a different color though and screams shady. I’ve no doubt there are all sorts of skeletons lurking in the closet when it comes to expenses.

Cienciano

Aidric wrote: »

Delaney is an accountant who will be shafted by a 100K loan to an organisation with a 50MM turnover and a healthy balance sheet. Barely believable, if it wasn't for a man who took his eye off the ball.

When he got away with so much he probably thought he could do what he wanted. His dismissive attitude while being questioned during the week too. Great that all the LOI protests got so much publicity, kept piling on the pressure

secman

Delaney used orher members FAI credit cards too, a relation of mine through marriage, his sister worked in FAI and she confirmed it was a regular thing for Delaney to do when they were out on the lash, she wasnt a board member but had a card too and frequently had it used by Delaney.

To Chancer, if FAI was a private Ltd company owned by Delaney, him being the risk taker setting the business up with a view to make profit, the salary, the rent, the credit card, the travel, that would be his prerogative, BUT its not a private LTD company owned by Delaney.
The FAI is an association owned by football fraternity who vote people in run the assiocation with a view to bettering football in Ireland not to better the CEO who was better paid than the heads of Spanish, Italian, French, English, football assiocations.
Ask yourself why a Mickey mouse league which most people, even football people would never have heard of, namely the United Churches League managed to have so many people on the board of the FAI, not by chance, but by design. A micro version of Blatter getting the likes of USA, Caribbean nations, Middle East nations, South Africa, to scratch his back and he would look after them, he knew he couldnt muster support from strong European Nations.
Chancer, you funamentally just don't or dont want to get it.
Football fraternity needs a root and branch ckean up of FAI and a proper blueprint to go forward with.

Cyrus

DeanAustin wrote: »

The cash is a horse of a different color though and screams shady. I’ve no doubt there are all sorts of skeletons lurking in the closet when it comes to expenses.

Not necessarily, happens often and there should be receipts to back it up, we don't know ow

mugsymugsy

Cyrus wrote: »

Not necessarily, happens often and there should be receipts to back it up, we don't know ow

Ah here if that level of cash was taken out and the frequency putting it politely questions would be asked.

The guy used it as a personal card but ah sure its grand because he sorted get some nets for the pitch in the arse end of Kerry (guess what he didn't sort it he just used funds and allocated them to his loyal fan base without proper scrutiny or fairness).

I hope more dirt is found on him and show him up for what he is

howiya

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Just in rrgards to the offer on the premium seats.

I wasnt aware that a 3rd party offeted them 75m for the rights to sell the seats. Looks a great offer initually. Especially as the FAI hasnt sold all the seats on recent reports.

However, i can understabd why they didnt accept it.

The tickrtd were worth abput 200m. So the FAI saw 75m as a lpw ball offer and were confident they could make more money by selling themselves. The recesssion and global downturn didnt help.

Maybe in hindsight taking 75m for 200m worth of tickets woukd have been ok.

But its definitely not some secret shame or fiasco that the board needs sacking over IMO.

The figure is €190m and they were only worth that at the prices the FAI were proposing to charge. If you were to use the GAA's ten year ticket price as a comparison you'd be looking at nearer €110m. If you are to use the price the FAI are charging this year for ten year tickets, you get €50m.

ISG were also on 15% commission with none of the risk. ISG also said they expected to sell 80% of the vantage club tickets. €190m is now reduced to €152m. Take away their 15% commission and you're looking at slightly less than €130m.

The recession and global downturn didn't help you say. Even more reason to take the guaranteed payment.

So you're left with a choice of a risk-free €75m and the stadium paid for or a very risky, not guaranteed €130m. I'd take the points on the board please.

Fast forward to 2019 and the FAI are trying to sell the second set of ten year tickets to raise €12m towards paying off the aviva stadium debt of €28m. A debt that didn't need to exist and has been a millstone around the neck of Irish football since.

This is what John had to say on the day they launched the ticket sales in September 2008, "Some people will probably say we won't sell the seats. Let me tell you, we'll do it."

Tusky

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

For anyone thinking of signing up to the Times for the stories because they've a free month, read the small print as it's fairly shady around cancelling.

It’s a free month and then €5 per month after that for The Sunday Times and The Times Ireland. To cancel you simply ring up - it can be done anytime. Journalism in Ireland needs support. If you appreciate the stories the ST has been doing then sign up.

DeanAustin

Cyrus wrote: »

Not necessarily, happens often and there should be receipts to back it up, we don't know ow

There is a chance you’re right but what did he need to buy that necessitated cash rather than paying for it on a card?

There is a reason that we’ll run companies don’t allow employees to use company cards to withdraw cash.

It looks shady.

OldMrBrennan83

Tusky wrote: »

It’s a free month and then €5 per month after that for The Sunday Times and The Times Ireland. To cancel you simply ring up - it can be done anytime. Journalism in Ireland needs support. If you appreciate the stories the ST has been doing then sign up.

Exactly, you should be able to cancel online. The fact they're going through the extra expense of having people phone up just means they'll try to give you the run-around. I'd pay for it no problem but I'd like the freedom to be able to cancel 6, 12, 14, etc months down the line whenever I'd like. Luckily I just copped it before I submitted the payment.

fullstop

So he spent €500 on two visits to the dry cleaners, more again on buying clothes for himself, and was even putting takeaway food and petrol on the association credit card? What a ****ing joke.

jack presley

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

Exactly, you should be able to cancel online. The fact they're going through the extra expense of having people phone up just means they'll try to give you the run-around. I'd pay for it no problem but I'd like the freedom to be able to cancel 6, 12, 14, etc months down the line whenever I'd like. Luckily I just copped it before I submitted the payment.

They've a freephone number you can ring.

OldMrBrennan83

jack presley wrote: »

They've a freephone number you can ring.

The expense at their end I mean. If they're paying people to take cancellation calls then it means it's for the exact reason to not make it easy.

mugsymugsy

Ah Jesus lads go down to the local shop and buy the paper for 3 euro. Price of a tea and a scone

OldMrBrennan83

mugsymugsy wrote: »

Ah Jesus lads go down to the local shop and buy the paper for 3 euro. Price of a tea and a scone

It's not the 3 quid, I'd pay a tenner for someone to bring it to me, it's the going to the shop bit is the problem I don't like to people on days ending in a Y

The Mrs says she might grab me one later if she goes out, and I may very well get her to get me a scone too.



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Quandary

fullstop wrote: »

So he spent €500 on two visits to the dry cleaners, more again on buying clothes for himself, and was even putting takeaway food and petrol on the association credit card? What a ****ing joke.

Those along with the previously mentioned "expenses" were clearly the actions of a man who thought he was completely untouchable. I mean, to be as flippant about what constitutes legitimate expenses in this day and age where everything can be traced electronically with ease by even the most basic audit. It beggars belief really.

I hope he, along with the other snouts in the trough are forced out in disgrace. Those among us who for years knew he was abusing his position in a multitude of ways can feel at least a little bit vindicated for thinking the worst about his character.

What a leech he is.

lee_baby_simms

mugsymugsy wrote: »

Ah Jesus lads go down to the local shop and buy the paper for 3 euro. Price of a tea and a scone

Exactly. If ever Irish journalism deserved a few quid it’s today.

Beechwoodspark

Dunphy on RTÉ again saying he doesn’t think it’s that big a deal.

He humming and hawing hesitating about what to say.

mugsymugsy

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Dunphy on RTÉ again saying he doesn’t think it’s that big a deal.

Please tell me you are joking

Fr Tod Umptious

mugsymugsy wrote: »

Ah Jesus lads go down to the local shop and buy the paper for 3 euro. Price of a tea and a scone

Your supporting the local shop too.

And if you is company credit card why not use that.

Beechwoodspark

mugsymugsy wrote: »

Please tell me you are joking

He’s saying Delaney issue is how he reacted with the injunction attempt and the loan itself is not a big deal.

He also saying the dismissive attitude doesn’t look good.

He also said JD has done a lot of good and it’s helpful to have him on uefa committee

Beechwoodspark

Dunphy says it’s a lynching

Making a fool of himself on RTÉ right now.

givyjoe

Chancer3001 wrote: »

If someone comes in and runs a transparent, clean association, increases revenue, marketing, governance is implimented and supports football in Ireland why shouldnt they earn their money

Some would argue delaney successfully managed to do every one of these things.

I dont know what governance is implimented means tho

Chancer , at least tell us what JD is to you, brother, cousin, boss, got your club some goalposts? Your support of him is as bizarre as it is embarrassing otherwise.

lee_baby_simms

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Making a fool of himself on RTÉ right now.

Hardly a first.

Wasn’t Dunphy one of the contributors on the ‘John the Baptist’ Indo propaganda piece with Barry Egan?

Richard Hillman

The big thing for now for John Delaney is did he declare all of these "expenses" in his tax return. Trips to Tommy Hilfiger and dry cleaning are not expenses, they are benefits in kind.

I would imagine they have been declared as Benefits in Kind, as the original source and the persons legal team would have had access to these figures.

Beechwoodspark

Dunphy denied being a friend of Delaney then Brendan o connor said “didn’t you attend his 50th in mount Juliet” it was all over the papers at the time

Eamo replies “maybe I did half the country went to that hahah”.

Personally I’ve lost a huge amount of respect for him over this issue.

lee_baby_simms

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Dunphy denied being a friend of Delaney then Brendan o connor said “didn’t you attend his 50th in mount Juliet” it was all over the papers at the time

Eamo replies “maybe I did half the country went to that hahah”.

Personally I’ve lost a huge amount of respect for him over this issue.

Have you heard his podcast? It’s a very cosy affair. Eamon has his friends on to discuss issues that he just happens to agree with on every single point. No one is challenged apart from John Giles.

Dunphy will only look for the truth if it suits his own ends first. He’s always been that way.