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    #752
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    What were you expecting from somebody you deferentially call 'her Majesty'?

    What an odd thing to call anyone in this day and age.

    Why? While she has different styles in her different realms, Her Majesty is the correct one in the UK and she should be accorded use of it. It is also the one the Irish would use if they rejoined the UK.


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    #753
    Mookie Blaylock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Mookie Blaylock


    droidman123 wrote: »
    Would you really lower yourself to calling someone "your majesty" you really think she is above you and better than you that you would address her,or anyone, in that manner?

    When you're in court you always call the judge "My Lord'
    Try calling him buddy and see what happens ;)


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    #754
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    We should just stick Come Out Ye Black and Tans on repeat country wide until it's all over.


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    #755
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,217 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    Why? While she has different styles in her different realms, Her Majesty is the correct one in the UK and she should be accorded use of it. It is also the one the Irish would use if they rejoined the UK.

    We are not in the UK. Again, why, in this day and age would you feel the need to call anyone this?


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    #756
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    We are not in the UK. Again, why, in this day and age would you feel the need to call anyone this?




    The hint is in his initials.


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    #757
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,217 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Mookie Blaylock wrote: »
    When you're in court you always call the judge "My Lord'
    Try calling him buddy and see hey happens ;)

    We are not in a court. There is no onus on people in the Irish republic to use this bizarre title. Unless they feel inferior that is.

    And by the way...update yourself.

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2006/si/274/made/en/print


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    #758
    Mookie Blaylock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Mookie Blaylock


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    We are not in a court. There is no onus on people in the Irish republic to use this bizarre title. Unless they feel inferior that is.

    And by the way...update yourself.

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2006/si/274/made/en/print

    I'm sure there's a few of ye here more familiar with higher courts than the circuit ;)


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    #759
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,217 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Mookie Blaylock wrote: »
    I'm sure there's a few of ye here more familiar with higher courts than the circuit ;)

    You are as out of date as you are scurrilous.

    http://www.courts.ie/rules.nsf/SuperiorAmdLookup/No119-S.I.+No.+196+Of+2006:+Rules+Of+The+Superior+Courts+(Mode+Of+Address+Of+Judges)+2006


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    #760
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    We are not in the UK. Again, why, in this day and age would you feel the need to call anyone this?

    Is that not her formal title? Would you address the president of the USA as Mr. Trump or as Mr. President as a formality?


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    #761
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,443 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    If you were a Poppy you support Twink and believe she should be commorated in the Gaiety.

    If you do not you back Rory.

    Heal the divisions.


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    #762
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,443 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Is that not her formal title? Would you address the president of the USA as Mr. Trump or as Mr. President as a formality?

    No visiting ambassador, state head calls him Mr President.

    His own might, most in Britain don't even call Elisabeth by her title.


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    #763
    droidman123
    Registered Users Posts: 5,448 ✭✭✭droidman123


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Is that not her formal title? Would you address the president of the USA as Mr. Trump or as Mr. President as a formality?
    If i met the american president i would say something like...howya don,whats the craic


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    #764
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,217 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Is that not her formal title? Would you address the president of the USA as Mr. Trump or as Mr. President as a formality?

    It is in the UK. There is no onus on us to use it. Unless we wish to defer to her and the idea of a monarchy.


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    #765
    SafeSurfer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Danzy wrote: »
    A couple hundred in this State will attend ceremonies today.

    Says it all really, this thread will have more arguing about it than will wear poppies, attend a commemoration or protest it.

    That is how irrelevant the poppy day and symbol is.

    People just don't give a ****.

    In fairness there are many, many more than “a couple of hundred” people commemorating today. Thousands out in Sligo alone this morning.

    A bit of tolerance for wouldn’t go amiss.
    Remembrance of the dead is very individual and sensitive and should be respected, whether the remembered died on Flanders field or Loughinisland or blowing up a fish shop in Belfast.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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    #766
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,443 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    In fairness there are many, many more than “a couple of hundred” people commemorating today. Thousands out in Sligo alone this morning.

    A bit of tolerance for wouldn’t go amiss.
    Remembrance of the dead is very individual and sensitive and should be respected, whether the remembered died on Flanders field or Loughinisland or blowing up a fish shop in Belfast.

    I'm tolerant of it, my point is that given it is such a niche thing why not let them.

    The overwhelming majority have no interest but for some people it is important.


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    #767
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    Hopefully with this brexit thing driving a further wedge between us and the Brits we'll see less and less of these sympathisers. I was fearing for the country under the next generation for a long time.


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    #768
    lawred2
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    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    Why? While she has different styles in her different realms, Her Majesty is the correct one in the UK and she should be accorded use of it. It is also the one the Irish would use if they rejoined the UK.

    That's your wet dream isn't it!?


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    #769
    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Patww79 wrote: »
    Hopefully with this brexit thing driving a further wedge between us and the Brits we'll see less and less of these sympathisers. I was fearing for the country under the next generation for a long time.

    So its not just about the Poppy's , it's dislike of Britain too and a want to create division and barriers.


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    #770
    klaaaz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    I'd wish there was this much enthusiasm by the poppy brigade for remembering the genocide of our own nation, over a million dead on this island.


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    #771
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,778 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    klaaaz wrote: »
    I'd wish there was this much enthusiasm by the poppy brigade for remembering the genocide of our own nation, over a million dead on this island.
    If you say that you're a Shinner.


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    #772
    nullzero
    Registered Users Posts: 16,488 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    klaaaz wrote: »
    I'd wish there was this much enthusiasm by the poppy brigade for remembering the genocide of our own nation, over a million dead on this island.

    Not to mention the people who died on the invitingly named coffin ships.
    The British have conveniently air brushed the holocaust that was the "famine" out of their history, and we've been complicit in allowing it to be seen as a lesser crime than it was.


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    #773
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    corner of hells wrote: »
    So its not just about the Poppy's , it's dislike of Britain too and a want to create division and barriers.

    It's about not wanting this country dragged down a very bad path. Poppy worship would be a gateway drug.


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    #774
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    nullzero wrote: »
    Not to mention the people who died on the invitingly named coffin ships.
    The British have conveniently air brushed the holocaust that was the "famine" out of their history, and we've been complicit in allowing it to be seen as a lesser crime than it was.

    It's not exactly airbrushed out. They keep it enough so as they can regularly joke about it.


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    #775
    [Deleted User]
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    corner of hells wrote: »
    So its not just about the Poppy's , it's dislike of Britain too and a want to create division and barriers.

    You need to look across the Irish Sea to see who is primarily to blame for creating divisions and barriers.


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    #776
    Mookie Blaylock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Mookie Blaylock


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    You are as out of date as you are scurrilous.

    Living in the hateful past is your thing, not mine...but do continue


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    #777
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,217 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Mookie Blaylock wrote: »
    Living in the hateful past is your thing, not mine...but do continue

    Says the guy/gal trying to get the digs in since his deference and hat doffing was challenged. And he /she miserably failed the test and went off.

    Another flouncy huff imminent no doubt after being caught out again. :rolleyes:


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    #778
    Mookie Blaylock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Mookie Blaylock


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Says the guy/gal trying to get the digs in since his deference and hat doffing was challenged. And he /she miserably failed the test and went off.

    Another flouncy huff imminent no doubt after being caught out again. :rolleyes:

    I made no reference to the queen or hat doffing to her, more lies again from your self...
    My reference was to judges...who still like being called mlud


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    #779
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,440 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    It doesn't. There is no doubt what the poppy and the RBL are about.
    It is an adjunct to the British Defence Forces/war machine

    In your opinion.


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    #780
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,217 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Mookie Blaylock wrote: »
    I made no reference to the queen or hat doffing to her, more lies again from your self...
    My reference was to judges...who still like being called mlud

    I thought for a minute you tried to contradict a poster by suggesting a judge would be cross if you didn't call him 'my lord'.

    Maybe I was mistaken. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    I think you let a wee mask slip there.


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    #781
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,217 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    In your opinion.

    No, it is actual fact.


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