French bus driver slaps teenager for disrespect

weldoninhio

Mack Round Nap wrote: »

Are you saying you wouldn't beep the horn at anyone causing a severe nusiance on the road. - Just ignore them and further empower them to do it again? What an idoitic concept.

The biggest 'negative reaction' of course would be to get out of your vechile and whack them. Ah but then the only problem is the huge social media (mixed) response, impending lawsuit, and job loss. Still such a great idea?

Someone causing a disturbance, yes.

Someone looking for a reaction, no.

vicwatson

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Would he have acted the maggot if they were there?

Might still have but it’s still up to the parents to check the child and not for a randomer to come and assault the child

robbiezero wrote: »

why?

Because the kid is 12 and the driver is a fully grown man, it's no contest, the driver is a coward, the kid is an easy target.

pickarooney

mad muffin wrote: »

I don’t condone hitting a child or anyone for that matter. But civil disobedience is at all time high, in western countries.

Do you even know what that term means?

Too often now teachers will tell you it’s not there place to teach respect to kids, and parents don’t have the time or inclination.

I was at a parent teacher meeting yesterday and it was literally the first lesson in the book, respect for other people and yourself.

iamwhoiam

pickarooney wrote: »

Do you even know what that term means?

I was at a parent teacher meeting yesterday and it was literally the first lesson in the book, respect for other people and yourself.

And in playschool they teach kindness to others and how to include others etc ,Even three year old can be guided gently to understand that

valoren

You can't go around slapping a teenager.....unless they run out in front of a bus causing it to brake very hard and when they give you lip by telling you to shut up and move on and then taunted and provoked into a reaction.

Far too often the instigator is not the focus of people's ire whereas the antagonist becomes the person initially provoked into reacting. The driver wouldn't have given him a clatter if he hadn't run in front of the bus almost getting himself killed and then had the cockiness to demand that the bus moves on.

Hitman3000

valoren wrote:

You can't go around slapping a teenager.....unless they run out in front of a bus causing it to brake very hard and when they give you lip by telling you to shut up and move on.

....even then you can't do it unless you want to jeopardize your livelihood and possibly face criminal prosecution.

lalababa

Shouldn't have slapped the individual. But was provoked by circumstances leading up to slap.
Outcome should be :A severe reprimand from the boss, an apology to the victim, and nothing else.
If the injured party or police want to bring a criminal or civil case so be it. Jury to aqquit in both cases as assault was extreamely minor and was provoked ( in a fashion)

pickarooney

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Yeah it sounds wise in circumstances like this, but apply it to something like sexual violence or medical negligence, and the French attitude starts to get a little more ambiguous.

Someone like Vicky Phelan would be a very poor woman under the French legal system. We don't always do things so badly here!

She wouldn't be terminally ill under the French medical system though, so swings and roundabouts

valoren

vicwatson wrote: »

What if the boys father is a big man and goes around and kicks the living sh out of the driver, would that be ok? That would be a fair fight no?

If he was going to call around to his house it should be to thank him for having the reflexes and was paying attention to avoid killing his idiot of a son.

The Rape of Lucretia

Genuinely surprised at the number of people who think violent assault, and abuse of a minor, by an adult, is OK.
Clearly we still have a lot of people in society whose violent tendencies are just about being kept in check by the law. Without the threat of prosecution and sanction, it looks like the world would be an even more violent place than it already is.
Shame on you all.

Irish Guitarist

He should have hit the boy even harder and knocked him unconscious, then dragged him in front of the bus and run over him while he was still being videoed. Then some rapper should have sampled the sound of his bones being crushed into a kind of percussive beat and made a hit song.

iamwhoiam

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Genuinely surprised at the number of people who think violent assault, and abuse of a minor, by an adult, is OK.
Clearly we still have a lot of people in society whose violent tendencies are just about being kept in check by the law. Without the threat of prosecution and sanction, it looks like the world would be an even more violent place than it already is.
Shame on you all.

And what did you think of the young lads behaviour ?

PlaneSpeeking

Ten of Swords wrote: »

Video going viral at the moment, reportedly filmed in Arcueil, Paris on September 13th

A 12 year old boy runs across the road forcing a bus driver to brake hard. When the bus driver beeps at him and tells him to pay attention the boy allegedly tells him to "shut up and move on". This is where the recording starts. The driver gets out of the bus, walks across the street and slaps the boy across the face.

Police are now involved and the RATP (bus company) have initiated disciplinary proceedings against the bus driver. His colleagues started a petition on social media asking for him not to be sacked, it has reached nearly 300,000 signatures with many people saying the boy deserved to be hit for being careless and disrespectful. RATP have said the bus driver admitted he reacted emotionally and regrets his actions.

Personally I think the bus drivers actions are disgraceful and he should never have hit a child for mouthing off to him, whatever you may think about the boy being rude it doesn't justify a slap in the face.

Do you think the boy got what he deserved and would you sign the petition to help the driver?

No, not nearly enough and Yes, in a heartbeat.

Danzy

Ten of Swords wrote: »

Video going viral at the moment, reportedly filmed in Arcueil, Paris on September 13th

A 12 year old boy runs across the road forcing a bus driver to brake hard. When the bus driver beeps at him and tells him to pay attention the boy allegedly tells him to "shut up and move on". This is where the recording starts. The driver gets out of the bus, walks across the street and slaps the boy across the face.

Police are now involved and the RATP (bus company) have initiated disciplinary proceedings against the bus driver. His colleagues started a petition on social media asking for him not to be sacked, it has reached nearly 300,000 signatures with many people saying the boy deserved to be hit for being careless and disrespectful. RATP have said the bus driver admitted he reacted emotionally and regrets his actions.

Personally I think the bus drivers actions are disgraceful and he should never have hit a child for mouthing off to him, whatever you may think about the boy being rude it doesn't justify a slap in the face.

Do you think the boy got what he deserved and would you sign the petition to help the driver?

The second mistake was to slap the teenager, the first was to slap the break.

The young fellow got off lightly and he should be very grateful he is not in a box, that he acted like such a shi7 after, shows what a wretch he must be.

He could also have caused an accident, bus swerve and hit a car, the group on the side of the street, he could have led to bodies on the street.

TheIrishGrover

Thread title is misleading: French bus driver slaps teenager for endangering bus driver, his passengers, other road users and himself and then verbally abuses bus driver.

Hitman3000

Danzy wrote:

He could also have caused an accident, bus swerve and hit a car, the group on the side of the street, he could have led to bodies on the street.

Could, but didn't happen . What did happen is a stupid kid ran out in front of a bus (which a manager of the transport company has said is a common occurrence in this area due to the presence a school) the driver hit the brakes exited the bus lost self control and assualted the kid.

Ten of Swords

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

No, not nearly enough and Yes, in a heartbeat.

Go on then!


https://www.mesopinions.com/petition/justice/contre-sanction-collegue-ratp-gifle-collegien/48863


AH never disappoints!

SCOOP 64

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Genuinely surprised at the number of people who think violent assault, and abuse of a minor, by an adult, is OK.
Clearly we still have a lot of people in society whose violent tendencies are just about being kept in check by the law. Without the threat of prosecution and sanction, it looks like the world would be an even more violent place than it already is.
Shame on you all.

I suppose its was abit harsh, the bus driver should have just got out and wag his finger at him saying you naughty boy that would have had the same impact.

per aspera ad astra

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Could, but didn't happen . What did happen is a stupid kid ran out in front of a bus (which a manager of the transport company has said is a common occurrence in this area due to the presence a school) the driver hit the brakes exited the bus lost self control and assualted the kid.

Round and round the argument goes –
Perspective is needed, for this slap on the nose.

Not from cruelty or from hate – doth this slap it cometh –
But concern for a child – whose body could have been destroyed by a multi-tonne moving lump of steel.

The bus driver is not a bad man.

Perspective is needed.

PlaneSpeeking

Ten of Swords wrote: »

Go on then!


https://www.mesopinions.com/petition/justice/contre-sanction-collegue-ratp-gifle-collegien/48863


AH never disappoints!

They say "Merci pour votre soutien !"

Think that's "ta bud!"

Graces7

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Genuinely surprised at the number of people who think violent assault, and abuse of a minor, by an adult, is OK.
Clearly we still have a lot of people in society whose violent tendencies are just about being kept in check by the law. Without the threat of prosecution and sanction, it looks like the world would be an even more violent place than it already is.
Shame on you all.

are you reading the same report?

Hitman3000

per aspera ad astra wrote:

The bus driver is not a bad man.

Never said he was , but he's a bigger idiot than the kid he assaulted and is going to face serious consequences for his loss of control.

Hitman3000

Graces7 wrote:

are you reading the same report?

What report?

Dakota Dan

Ten of Swords wrote: »

Video going viral at the moment, reportedly filmed in Arcueil, Paris on September 13th

A 12 year old boy runs across the road forcing a bus driver to brake hard. When the bus driver beeps at him and tells him to pay attention the boy allegedly tells him to "shut up and move on". This is where the recording starts. The driver gets out of the bus, walks across the street and slaps the boy across the face.

Police are now involved and the RATP (bus company) have initiated disciplinary proceedings against the bus driver. His colleagues started a petition on social media asking for him not to be sacked, it has reached nearly 300,000 signatures with many people saying the boy deserved to be hit for being careless and disrespectful. RATP have said the bus driver admitted he reacted emotionally and regrets his actions.

Personally I think the bus drivers actions are disgraceful and he should never have hit a child for mouthing off to him, whatever you may think about the boy being rude it doesn't justify a slap in the face.

Do you think the boy got what he deserved and would you sign the petition to help the driver?

You wouldn’t want to have been around in the 70’s as teachers were dishing more than a slap across the face.

PlaneSpeeking

Dakota Dan wrote: »

You wouldn’t want to have been around in the 70’s as teachers were dishing more than a slap across the face.

I had nuns - terrifying!!!

The Rape of Lucretia

iamwhoiam wrote: »

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Genuinely surprised at the number of people who think violent assault, and abuse of a minor, by an adult, is OK.
Clearly we still have a lot of people in society whose violent tendencies are just about being kept in check by the law. Without the threat of prosecution and sanction, it looks like the world would be an even more violent place than it already is.
Shame on you all.

And what did you think of the young lads behaviour ?

Entirely unrelated. Violent assault on a child is his case to answer.

Dakota Dan

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

He's a grown man who assaulted a 12 year old boy. No matter how bad the child was that is not right.

Which is the reason that minors believe they can run riot. If the 12 year old showed some respect for his elders he wouldn’t have got a little slap it works both ways.

PlaneSpeeking

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Entirely unrelated. Violent assault on a child is his case to answer.

Oh ffs.

The feral little t**t got a mere part of what he deserved.

Dakota Dan

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Entirely unrelated. Violent assault on a child is his case to answer.

Violent assault do you dramatise much?

iamwhoiam

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Entirely unrelated. Violent assault on a child is his case to answer.

For gods sake , it wasnt a violent assault it was a slap