French bus driver slaps teenager for disrespect

Ten of Swords

Video going viral at the moment, reportedly filmed in Arcueil, Paris on September 13th

A 12 year old boy runs across the road forcing a bus driver to brake hard. When the bus driver beeps at him and tells him to pay attention the boy allegedly tells him to "shut up and move on". This is where the recording starts. The driver gets out of the bus, walks across the street and slaps the boy across the face.

Police are now involved and the RATP (bus company) have initiated disciplinary proceedings against the bus driver. His colleagues started a petition on social media asking for him not to be sacked, it has reached nearly 300,000 signatures with many people saying the boy deserved to be hit for being careless and disrespectful. RATP have said the bus driver admitted he reacted emotionally and regrets his actions.

Personally I think the bus drivers actions are disgraceful and he should never have hit a child for mouthing off to him, whatever you may think about the boy being rude it doesn't justify a slap in the face.

Do you think the boy got what he deserved and would you sign the petition to help the driver?

per aspera ad astra

You forgot to add the link to the petition!

chuck eastwood

No brainer really. You can't slap a child even if he is a little twat. A driver or anyone working with the public knows the professional and personal consequences for such actions. Sack and prosecute him. Social media and petitions have no place deciding if we should follow the basic rule of law

muckwarrior

Ten of Swords wrote: »

Personally I think the bus drivers actions are disgraceful and he should never have hit a child for mouthing off to him, whatever you may think about the boy being rude it doesn't justify a slap in the face.

He should get a bloody medal. Too many little shits being let run riot with no fear of consequences.

weldoninhio

Ten of Swords wrote: »

Video going viral at the moment, reportedly filmed in Arcueil, Paris on September 13th

A 12 year old boy runs across the road forcing a bus driver to brake hard. When the bus driver beeps at him and tells him to pay attention the boy allegedly tells him to "shut up and move on". This is where the recording starts. The driver gets out of the bus, walks across the street and slaps the boy across the face.

Police are now involved and the RATP (bus company) have initiated disciplinary proceedings against the bus driver. His colleagues started a petition on social media asking for him not to be sacked, it has reached nearly 300,000 signatures with many people saying the boy deserved to be hit for being careless and disrespectful. RATP have said the bus driver admitted he reacted emotionally and regrets his actions.

Personally I think the bus drivers actions are disgraceful and he should never have hit a child for mouthing off to him, whatever you may think about the boy being rude it doesn't justify a slap in the face.

Do you think the boy got what he deserved and would you sign the petition to help the driver?

Fair play to him. It wasn’t too hard a slap, just hard enough to teach the little prick a lesson.

Muppet Man

A good kick in the hole never hurt anyone

riffmongous

Would he have got out and slapped someone bigger than him?

Noveight

Proper order.

Hitman3000

riffmongous wrote:

Would he have got out and slapped someone bigger than him?

Doubtful.

iamwhoiam

If he were my son he would get another clatter from me .

Timberrrrrrrr

Not all hero's wear capes.

Hitman3000

Timberrrrrrrr wrote:

Not all hero's wear capes.

You're suggesting an adult that assualts a kid is a hero?

Harry Palmr

I expect the driver was so shocked and adrenaline spiked by what almost happened he really wasn't in complete control of himself.

The kid should remember what happened as a lesson, instead what'll happen is he'll think he is bigger than The Man and so will become a little **** for the rest of his life. I predict a life of crime and an early death as a junkie.

SharpshooterTom

muckwarrior wrote: »

He should get a bloody medal. Too many little shits being let run riot with no fear of consequences.

He's a grown man who assaulted a 12 year old boy. No matter how bad the child was that is not right.

Timberrrrrrrr

Hitman3000 wrote: »

You're suggesting an adult that assualts a kid is a hero?

Yep, plenty of little scrotes running amok that could do with a slap, no matter the verdict here i bet that litle sh1t has learned some manners and will think teice next time.

iamwhoiam

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I expect the driver was so shocked and adrenaline spiked by what almost happened he really wasn't in complete control of himself.

And thinking of his passengers who were endangered by the little brat

TomOnBoard

French incident... French rules... Simple as...

Hitman3000

Harry Palmr wrote:

I expect the driver was so shocked and adrenaline spiked by what almost happened he really wasn't in complete control of himself.

If he can't control himself when his adrenaline is spiked, he shouldn't be behind the wheel of a bus. This from someone who has driven HGV's. Plenty of things on the road will spike your adrenaline.

bear1

The kid was in the wrong and probably deserves a slap but it's up to the parents to discipline him.
He has a public role and in this day and age you simply can't go around slapping a child.
Should he be sacked? No.
Could the child have caused serious damage? Yes.
But still not grounds to slap a 12 year old boy.

vicwatson

It’s assault, driver needs to be arrested and charged, if he gets sacked from it then so be it.

Hitman3000

Timberrrrrrrr wrote:

Yep, plenty of little scrotes running amok that could do with a slap, no matter the verdict here i bet that litle sh1t has learned some manners and will think teice next time.

You think getting assualted will teach him manners? Doubtful it might just make realise it's ok to hit someone smaller than oneself. A lesson can be delivered without violence or the threat of violence.

iamwhoiam

bear1 wrote: »

The kid was in the wrong and probably deserves a slap but it's up to the parents to discipline him.
He has a public role and in this day and age you simply can't go around slapping a child.
Should he be sacked? No.
Could the child have caused serious damage? Yes.
But still not grounds to slap a 12 year old boy.

But how were the parents going to know what the child did ? In my opinion some things need to be dealt with there and then . Unfortunately it is now not allowed so feral kids can rule the roost

The Phantom Jipper

A moment of compete and utter madness. You can't hit someone while in work and expect to keep your job.

It's strange and a little disturbing that so many here are comfortable with an adult hitting a child.

PLL

Torn on this. Of course technically the driver is very wrong, but I also know what kids can be like. If I was the parent of the child and I knew he was a bit of a ****, I’d say the driver was wrong, but I would want him to keep his job. I’d feel awful knowing a man lost his job, when my child was very much in the wrong too.

Edit: Also if the driver loses his job, it reinforces that the child can do whatever he wants and get away with it. Some of them will go on to provoke people for the craic, as a bit of power play.

suicide_circus

you can't be slapping kids (unless they hit you of course) but I still feel more sorry for him than the kid in this scenario.

bear1

iamwhoiam wrote: »

But how were the parents going to know what the child did ? In my opinion some things need to be dealt with there and then . Unfortunately it is now not allowed so feral kids can rule the roost

Kids should be disciplined by their parents and not by strangers. That's my point.
You can't go around slapping kids.

Hitman3000

iamwhoiam wrote:

But how were the parents going to know what the child did ? In my opinion some things need to be dealt with there and then . Unfortunately it is now not allowed so feral kids can rule the roost

The kid ran out in front of a bus, stupid act but kids do stupid things all the time as do alot of adults. But describing him or any child as feral is bollixolgy.

Should've hit him harder. If you're gonna go for it, then really go for it.


The new generation of scummers have no respect and no worry about retaliation. Had the bus gone off the road (not a massive exaggeration either, perfectly plausible) do you reckon the scumbag (and that's what this kid is) would give a sh/te? Not a chance.

He'd just be egged on by his friends to do the same again and again and with no consequences (we all know the Police couldn't care less about this kinda stuff, until it actually does kill someone, then it's all 'the poor boy' nonsense we usually get).

A good belt is exactly what he deserved. And I too would like the link to the petition. Bus driver acted in the interests of his passengers (and society as a whole, in my opinion). I wholeheartedly applaud him for it.

mdwexford

Stop saying assault.


This is an assault like blowing a kiss is a rape.

bear1

bear1 wrote: »

Kids should be disciplined by their parents and not by strangers. That's my point.
You can't go around slapping kids.

.. And if no video surfaced, no one would know about this, hence no discipline by any parents. Discipline is a word many parents simply don't know the meaning of. As we will see over the next 10-20 years.


D'ya reckon this is the first and only time this kid ever did anything wrong or crossed anyone? For all we know he could be the local scumbag that's constantly acting up.


Any child could accidentally wander in front of a bus, but the difference is the 'giving lip' to the driver part. Most kids are either shocked and don't react, or apologise profusely realising what has happened. Not give the driver attitude.

He shouldn't have done it but I understand why he did.
Hopefully doesn't lose his job and hopefully that prick of a child learns a bit of cop on.

iamwhoiam

Hitman3000 wrote: »

The kid ran out in front of a bus, stupid act but kids do stupid things all the time as do alot of adults. But describing him or any child as feral is bollixolgy.

I didnt refer to him as feral . I am referring to a general lack of dicipline or consequences of wrong doing is doing a child no favours at all
Every country has a problem with feral gangs due to the lack of dicipline they grow up with . A 12 year old boy is very capable of feral behavour actually
In principle I disagree with what the bus driver did but can't bring myself to be outraged to be honest

bear1

[Deleted User] wrote: »

.. And if no video surfaced, no one would know about this, hence no discipline by any parents. Discipline is a word many parents simply don't know the meaning of. As we will see over the next 10-20 years.


D'ya reckon this is the first and only time this kid ever did anything wrong or crossed anyone? For all we know he could be the local scumbag that's constantly acting up.


Any child could accidentally wander in front of a bus, but the difference is the 'giving lip' to the driver part. Most kids are either shocked and don't react, or apologise profusely realising what has happened. Not give the driver attitude.

You do realise that the "kid gave lip" part is all hearsay for now? There is no proof the kid actually did that.
The driver could just have easily snapped and gotten out to give him a slap out of anger for jumping in front of the bus.

AlmightyCushion

I can't believe my eyes. How could someone do something so disgusting and horrible? We're not bloody animals. Lock them up and throw away the key. Recording a video in portrait. Come on now.

vicwatson

What if the boys father is a big man and goes around and kicks the living sh out of the driver, would that be ok? That would be a fair fight no?

vicwatson

Cake of Tremendous Power wrote: »

He shouldn't have done it but I understand why he did.
Hopefully doesn't lose his job and hopefully that prick of a child learns a bit of cop on.

“that prick of a child”, Jaysus. He’s a child being a child ffs.

iamwhoiam

vicwatson wrote: »

What if the boys father is a big man and goes around and kicks the living sh out of the driver, would that be ok? That would be a fair fight no?

The driver didn't kick the living **** out of the child did he ? He slapped him once

vicwatson

mdwexford wrote: »

Stop saying assault.


This is an assault like blowing a kiss is a rape.

Do you know the meaning of assault?

FunLover18

It's sad how little understanding people have of what psychological effect physical abuse can have, especially on kids. "Sure it never did me any harm" isn't an excuse, people are different, they react differently to things.

Wasn't there a book written about something like this?

Timberrrrrrrr

Hitman3000 wrote: »

You think getting assualted will teach him manners? Doubtful it might just make realise it's ok to hit someone smaller than oneself. A lesson can be delivered without violence or the threat of violence.

Ah the old saying "violence is never the answer"

Meanwhile in the real world, sometimes violence is the only answer.

Lets look the kid up in 10 years time and see is hiw he turned out :rolleyes:

vicwatson

iamwhoiam wrote: »

The driver didn't kick the living **** out of the child did he ? He slapped him once

He’s an adult, the child is a Child, not a fair assault. Wonder would the driver have attempted that to a fully grown man? Driver is a bully and a coward

iamwhoiam

FunLover18 wrote: »

It's sad how little understanding people have of what psychological effect physical abuse can have, especially on kids. "Sure it never did me any harm" isn't an excuse, people are different, they react differently to things.

Wasn't there a book written about something like this?

What is a little sad is that some people did not replace physical dicipline with another effective method . Instead they allowed kids behave badly with no consequences

Hitman3000

Timberrrrrrrr wrote:

sometimes violence is the only answer.

Bullsh*t, violence towards a child is never an answer in any world real or imagined.

per aspera ad astra

vicwatson wrote: »

He’s an adult, the child is a Child, not a fair assault. Wonder would the driver have attempted that to a fully grown man? Driver is a bully and a coward

He didn't get a slap for bad manners – he got a slap for running out in front of multi-tonne moving lump of steel, which would have destroyed his young body to pieces. This was not assault, it was not abuse – it was not violence. That child is lucky to be alive – and I guarantee you, that child will not die from crossing the road in the future. Life is not black and white.

Ginger83

Well done driver for keeping it tame, he could have lost it.

Maybe the kid won't get killed by a bus next time.

mfceiling

#ibelievehim

Potential-Monke

vicwatson wrote: »

“that prick of a child”, Jaysus. He’s a child being a child ffs.

So you think a child giving lip after nearly (potentially) causing a crash is not enough to warrant him being called a prick? Children grow up quick these days, I knew plenty of prick children under 12. Just because they're a child doesn't excuse them from everything. As someone else said, most kids who inadvertently walk out in front of a bus would apologise or freeze up. He had enough thought into what he was doing, and enough of an attitude to allegedly give lip.

Anyway, like anything else, we didn't see the before, so it's hard to say for certain. I'm not against kids getting a belt or a slap like that, they need it. Done me no harm, and I'm a functioning member of society (albeit one who detests kids).

And I knew this thread would turn into a 'it's not ok to hit children' thread. Bah I say. If someone deserves it, and it's a simple as that (more like a shock tactic than assault), I see no harm. When I was a young fella (i'm only 35!), your parents would have given a few more if they found out. Oh how times have changed, allegedly for the better, but I fail to see it.

The Phantom Jipper

Running across a road and being rude to a bus driver - behaviour that warrants you getting hit by a stranger.

Posting comments calling a child a scumbag, a prick, a little ****, wishing that the child had been hit harder - perfectly acceptable behaviour that gets you likes on Boards.

Im failing to see how the latter isn't any more deserving of a slap than the former.

Hitman3000

per aspera ad astra wrote:

He didn't get a slap for bad manners – he got a slap for running out in front of multi-tonne moving lump of steel, which would have destroyed his young body to pieces. This was not assault, it was not abuse – it was not violence. That child is lucky to be alive – and I guarantee you, that child will not die from crossing the road in the future. Life is not black and white.

The driver struck the young lad, hate to break it to you but yes it was assualt.

Hitman3000

Potential-Monke wrote:

Anyway, like anything else, we didn't see the before, so it's hard to say for certain. I'm not against kids getting a belt or a slap like that, they need it. Done me no harm, and I'm a functioning member of society (albeit one who detests kids).

Love this chestnut, always repeated by those that think it's ok to assualt a child. 'Done me no harm' what utter bs.

Alpha_zero

Hitman3000 wrote: »

The driver struck the young lad, hate to break it to you but yes it was assualt.

Should have used a closed fist to make it worth while.