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Changes in the GAA - super thread

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    #2372
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,312 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Speakerboxx wrote: »
    Not really. It's up to the other teams to raise their game.

    It’s amateurs vs professionals.

    It’s not as simple as raise your game.

    I really believe Dublin would be successful if they played in the Australian Football league


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    #2373
    Speakerboxx
    Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Speakerboxx


    JeffKenna wrote: »
    I don't think they will either. Interesting tweet from Sean Kelly last night. The tap will be turned off, probably take 10 or 15 years to level off but this won't last forever.

    Nothing lasts forever. Dublin will make hay while the sun shines. Why wouldnt they?


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    #2374
    Speakerboxx
    Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Speakerboxx


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    It’s amateurs vs professionals.

    It’s not as simple as raise your game.

    I really believe Dublin would be successful if they played in the Australian Football league

    Lazy mans analysis. You are only as good as your last game.


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    #2375
    JeffKenna
    Registered Users Posts: 4,536 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    Speakerboxx wrote: »
    Nothing lasts forever. Dublin will make hay while the sun shines. Why wouldnt they?

    Of course they will and fully entitled to. It's up to the GAA however to ensure funding is allocated equally.


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    #2376
    Speakerboxx
    Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Speakerboxx


    JeffKenna wrote: »
    Of course they will and fully entitled to. It's up to the GAA however to ensure funding is allocated equally.

    It won't still solve the problem. You can't buy talent unless the gaa becomes professional.


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    #2377
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,312 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Speakerboxx wrote: »
    Lazy mans analysis. You are only as good as your last game.

    Lazy mans analysis.

    Everyone knows who wins this final.

    The 2nd best team in the country didn’t lay a glove on them last year.


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    #2378
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,144 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Speakerboxx wrote: »
    Lazy mans analysis. You are only as good as your last game.

    The lazy analysis is the "shur everyone else just needs to up their game" like they can flick a switch. Completely ignoring reality.


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    #2379
    Speakerboxx
    Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Speakerboxx


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »

    I think this dominance will require intervention to assist the other counties.

    Just other teams will have to work harder, train harder, manage harder, tactic harder strategise harder, go harder.


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    #2380
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,312 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Speakerboxx wrote: »
    Just other teams will have to work harder, train harder, manage harder, tactic harder strategise harder, go harder.

    Someone hit they nail on the head last night.

    “They rest just need to volunteer harder”


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    #2381
    Speakerboxx
    Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Speakerboxx


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    The lazy analysis is the "shur everyone else just needs to up their game" like they can flick a switch. Completely ignoring reality.

    The reality is Dublin are at the top right now and its really up to the rest to get better. Simple as and no lazy mans analysis there.


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    #2382
    pjohnson
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    Speakerboxx wrote: »
    Just other teams will have to work harder, train harder, manage harder, tactic harder strategise harder, go harder.

    I dont think viagra would help tbh.


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    #2383
    Mantis Toboggan
    Registered Users Posts: 17,801 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Dublin hurlers created 2 teams when the hurlers were going well.

    I'm sure there's footballers in Dublin good enough for county so would make sense. I'd nearly divide them into 4, they'd still have a bigger population to choose from than most counties.

    There's more people in Tallaght than Cavan!!

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    #2384
    JeffKenna
    Registered Users Posts: 4,536 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    Speakerboxx wrote: »
    Just other teams will have to work harder, train harder, manage harder, tactic harder strategise harder, go harder.

    I find it hard to imagine you believe what you're saying.


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    #2385
    Speakerboxx
    Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Speakerboxx


    pjohnson wrote: »
    I dont think viagra would help tbh.

    Everything is possible with hard work.


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    #2386
    CorkRed93
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    Mantis Toboggan wrote: »
    Dublin hurlers created 2 teams when the hurlers were going well.

    I'm sure there's footballers in Dublin good enough for county so would make sense. I'd nearly divide them into 4, they'd still have a bigger population to choose from than most counties.

    There's more people in Tallaght than Cavan!!

    splitting them into 4 is the only option now I think.


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    #2387
    doc_17
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    Speakerboxx wrote: »
    Just other teams will have to work harder, train harder, manage harder, tactic harder strategise harder, go harder.

    And find ways to make playing GAA their profession. What’s the going rate for a Dublin player to make an appearance at a corporate event? Wasn’t a figure of between €6000 and €10000 reported after the 5 in a row?


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    #2388
    risteard7
    Registered Users Posts: 879 ✭✭✭risteard7


    People just shouldn't bother turning up to Dublin games. Simple as that. I'd say if it was normal this year you'd be lucky to get 30,000 at an AI final.

    Stop giving the GAA your hard earned money when most of it is handed back to Dublin.


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    #2389
    doc_17
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    risteard7 wrote: »
    People just shouldn't bother turning up to Dublin games. Simple as that. I'd say if it was normal this year you'd be lucky to get 30,000 at an AI final.

    Stop giving the GAA your hard earned money when most of it is handed back to Dublin.

    It would still be sold out. It’s a bloody great day out. I go every year, wouldn’t miss it.


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    #2390
    Speakerboxx
    Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Speakerboxx


    JeffKenna wrote: »
    I find it hard to imagine you believe what you're saying.

    I know the greatest team in any sport in history have always been beaten. If teams don't believe then they don't have any reason to compete in the competition. Mayo probably should have beaten Dublin either 2013 2016 or 2017. Same as Kerry 2019.


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    #2391
    blockfighter
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    CorkRed93 wrote: »
    splitting them into 4 is the only option now I think.

    God i hope not. Really don't want to watch an all Dublin semi final lineup.


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    #2392
    Speakerboxx
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    CorkRed93 wrote: »
    splitting them into 4 is the only option now I think.

    Then you would have an All Dublin All Ireland semi final every year and Dublin winning every year.


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    #2393
    copacetic
    Subscribers Posts: 16,575 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    Mantis Toboggan wrote: »
    Dublin hurlers created 2 teams when the hurlers were going well.

    I'm sure there's footballers in Dublin good enough for county so would make sense. I'd nearly divide them into 4, they'd still have a bigger population to choose from than most counties.

    There's more people in Tallaght than Cavan!!

    So what’s the outcry going to be like when the 4 Dublin ‘areas’ contest both semi finals? Or even the two areas.

    Splitting Dublin will ruin the whole ethos of the gaa in Dublin, which may or may not reduce the fan base, but if it works without doing that then most likely you will have 2/3/4 teams rabidly trying to beat each other and then everyone else.

    If we go straight knockout then maybe you could fix it so only one of those teams could get out of Leinster but league etc could easily be dominated by 2/3/4 Dublin teams.

    Either way take all the money off Dublin, they still win, split Dublin, they still win, merge other counties then? Is the answer just keep crippling Dublin until they can’t win anything? Once that’s complete where is the gaa future in Ireland?


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    #2394
    CorkRed93
    Registered Users Posts: 3,590 ✭✭✭CorkRed93


    Speakerboxx wrote: »
    Then you would have an All Dublin All Ireland semi final every year and Dublin winning every year.

    and you still wouldnt see the issue.


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    #2395
    Speakerboxx
    Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Speakerboxx


    CorkRed93 wrote: »
    and you still wouldnt see the issue.

    You would give Dublin 4 times more a chance of winning the All Ireland.


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    #2396
    CorkRed93
    Registered Users Posts: 3,590 ✭✭✭CorkRed93


    copacetic wrote: »
    So what’s the outcry going to be like when the 4 Dublin ‘areas’ contest both semi finals? Or even the two areas.

    Splitting Dublin will ruin the whole ethos of the gaa in Dublin, which may or may not reduce the fan base, but if it works without doing that then most likely you will have 2/3/4 teams rabidly trying to beat each other and then everyone else.

    If we go straight knockout then maybe you could fix it so only one of those teams could get out of Leinster but league etc could easily be dominated by 2/3/4 Dublin teams.

    Either way take all the money off Dublin, they still win, split Dublin, they still win, merge other counties then? Is the answer just keep crippling Dublin until they can’t win anything? Once that’s complete where is the gaa future in Ireland?

    Dublin ruined the whole ethos of the GAA by being pumped with government money, turning an amateur team pro.


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    #2397
    Speakerboxx
    Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Speakerboxx


    CorkRed93 wrote: »
    Dublin ruined the whole ethos of the GAA by being pumped with government money, turning an amateur team pro.

    Source?


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    #2398
    CorkRed93
    Registered Users Posts: 3,590 ✭✭✭CorkRed93


    Speakerboxx wrote: »
    Source?

    Google.


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    #2399
    Mantis Toboggan
    Registered Users Posts: 17,801 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Speakerboxx wrote: »
    Then you would have an All Dublin All Ireland semi final every year and Dublin winning every year.

    Who'd your money be on though, Dublin North, South East or West?

    I'd fancy the North to take it.

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    #2400
    Speakerboxx
    Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Speakerboxx


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    Did you happen to watch any of those matches?

    Watched them all and i can say if those teams were more clinical they could have easily won.


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    #2401
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,144 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    risteard7 wrote: »
    People just shouldn't bother turning up to Dublin games. Simple as that. I'd say if it was normal this year you'd be lucky to get 30,000 at an AI final.

    Stop giving the GAA your hard earned money when most of it is handed back to Dublin.

    Crowds at Leinster championship games have been declining for years as people realise there's no point going to see 20 point hammerings.


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