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New bus lanes set to greatly reduce journey times by 50%

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    #422
    cfuserkildare
    Registered Users Posts: 3,575 ✭✭✭cfuserkildare


    So tell me,

    Who is going to Fund all these traffic improvements?


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    #423
    marno21
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,352 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    cfuserkildare wrote: »
    So tell me,

    Who is going to Fund all these traffic improvements?
    BusConnects Dublin has a €2bn funding allocation under the National Development Plan 2018-2027.


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    #424
    cgcsb
    Registered Users Posts: 9,277 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    cfuserkildare wrote: »
    So tell me,

    Who is going to Fund all these traffic improvements?

    The state of course, the project has a €2bn budget.


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    #425
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 38,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    cfuserkildare wrote: »
    So tell me,

    Who is going to Fund all these traffic improvements?
    The same people who fund other infrastructure projects including motorway projects, why?


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    #426
    loyatemu
    Registered Users Posts: 14,790 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Wow, job well done.

    except for the cycle lanes - I think (hope) BusConnects is planning higher quality cycle facilities with segregation/protection and with the lanes going around the back of bus stops.


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    #427
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,513 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    loyatemu wrote: »
    except for the cycle lanes - I think (hope) BusConnects is planning higher quality cycle facilities with segregation/protection and with the lanes going around the back of bus stops.

    I'm not sure about going around the back of the bus stops, but the drawings from the BusConnects document published last week show the bike lanes being higher then the bus lane and thus physically separated.

    Obviously we need to wait and see the detailed plans.


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    #428
    cgcsb
    Registered Users Posts: 9,277 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    I'm very keen to see what happens in the City Centre, what happens there will dictate what happens on each corridor anyway and it is the biggest pinch point. I expect punative car bans from the quays will greatly reduce car traffic on many corridors and possibly move some traffic from one corridor to another which may impact the design of infrastructure.

    Also the orbital routes may also be competing with cars and they cannot be forgotten about, it is absolutely bonkers that the M50, the state's busiest road has no parallel public transport alternative of any kind.


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    #429
    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,166 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    bk wrote: »
    I'm not sure about going around the back of the bus stops, but the drawings from the BusConnects document published last week show the bike lanes being higher then the bus lane and thus physically separated.

    Obviously we need to wait and see the detailed plans.

    I hope we'll see a Tallaght Village style setup.

    I expect we'll see an N11 style dogs dinner.


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    #430
    loyatemu
    Registered Users Posts: 14,790 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    ED E wrote: »
    I hope we'll see a Tallaght Village style setup.

    I expect we'll see an N11 style dogs dinner.

    the proposals for Fairview look good, so hopefully more of that.


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    #431
    Qrt
    Registered Users Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭Qrt


    ED E wrote: »
    I hope we'll see a Tallaght Village style setup.

    I expect we'll see an N11 style dogs dinner.

    I take it you're talking about the whole Tallaght Village-M50 cycle track and not the village in general? Because that's just two big bitumen bikes on the road...


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    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,166 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Qrt wrote: »
    I take it you're talking about the whole Tallaght Village-M50 cycle track and not the village in general? Because that's just two big bitumen bikes on the road...

    Indeed. One of the few places with proper floating bus stops (https://goo.gl/maps/aNXarVNYjpk for those that dont know the area). Now upgraded with flexi wands too.


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    #433
    howiya
    Registered Users Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭howiya


    ED E wrote: »
    Indeed. One of the few places with proper floating bus stops (https://goo.gl/maps/aNXarVNYjpk for those that dont know the area). Now upgraded with flexi wands too.

    Took a long time to build. May need to extend the deadline for this project if the Tallaght project is anything to go by.

    Was out and about earlier and was reminded of an example of a current bus lane that only needs a simple change to make it a lot more effective.

    Dolphins Barn inbound. There are two lanes, one of which is a bus lane part of the way. At the junction with SCR, there is a right turn and traffic wanting to continue to Cork St has to merge into the left making the bus lane totally pointless. Bus lane then resumes on Cork St. Banning the right turn to SCR and extending the bus lane closer to the junction would avoid this merge and make traffic move smoother.


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    #434
    RayCun
    Registered Users Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    howiya wrote: »
    Banning the right turn to SCR and extending the bus lane closer to the junction would avoid this merge and make traffic move smoother.

    That traffic comes from Crumlin, Long Mile Road, M50. If it didn't turn right there, where should it turn?


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    #435
    howiya
    Registered Users Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭howiya


    RayCun wrote: »
    That traffic comes from Crumlin, Long Mile Road, M50. If it didn't turn right there, where should it turn?

    There are multiple right turns. Kildare Road, Sundrive Road, Rutland Avenue, Donore Avenue as examples.


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    #436
    RayCun
    Registered Users Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    howiya wrote: »
    There are multiple right turns. Kildare Road, Sundrive Road, Rutland Avenue, Donore Avenue as examples.

    Kildare Road is through a residential area with speed bumps

    Sundrive Road leads to the Kimmage traffic jam

    There is no right-turning lane for Rutland Avenue, so you'd have the same problem - a queue of cars turning right, and straight-ahead cars joining the bus lane

    Donore Avenue is into residential areas again (and is much further on)


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    #437
    pclive
    Registered Users Posts: 453 ✭✭pclive


    A well placed bus lane enforcement camera would solve this problem over night


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    #438
    Chris_5339762
    Registered Users Posts: 5,858 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    howiya wrote: »
    Dolphins Barn inbound. There are two lanes, one of which is a bus lane part of the way. At the junction with SCR, there is a right turn and traffic wanting to continue to Cork St has to merge into the left making the bus lane totally pointless. Bus lane then resumes on Cork St. Banning the right turn to SCR and extending the bus lane closer to the junction would avoid this merge and make traffic move smoother.


    I save loads of time by ignoring the traffic queueing in the bus lane, merging where I should and continuing onwards. Much to the ire of those queueing.


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    #439
    howiya
    Registered Users Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭howiya


    RayCun wrote: »
    Kildare Road is through a residential area with speed bumps

    Sundrive Road leads to the Kimmage traffic jam

    There is no right-turning lane for Rutland Avenue, so you'd have the same problem - a queue of cars turning right, and straight-ahead cars joining the bus lane

    Donore Avenue is into residential areas again (and is much further on)

    It's probably going to happen under the Bus Connects plan anyway as this is one of the corridors included. All I'm saying is it could be done tomorrow without great fanfare.


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