iOS 12 - Developer, public beta and official release

peteeeed

The devoloper beta 1 is out

SleetAndSnow

Installing on my iPhone X now

peteeeed

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Installing on my iPhone X now

brave man, let me know how you get on

SleetAndSnow

peteeeed wrote: »

brave man, let me know how you get on

So far it's very smooth. Definitely unlike previous betas. Liking it so far! Haven't seen any major bugs.

peteeeed

i have an ipad and a 7 plus so i'll download onto the ipad first when the public beta is released

IamMetaldave

11.4 turned my iPad Air into a slug... I have barely anything on it... Soooo slow!

IamMetaldave

11.4 turned my iPad Air into a slug... I have barely anything on it... Soooo slow! Will 100% try 12 when the public beta is out.

murpho999

peteeeed wrote: »

brave man, let me know how you get on

This would should not be such a risk as it's designed to improve performance imho.

brophs

iOs 12 allowing Google Maps to be used in Car Play will be great. Apple Maps are just a hot mess, when the voice recognition even works properly.

awec

Still no sign of Apple News in Ireland?

deep1

awec wrote: »

Still no sign of Apple News in Ireland?

Change the Region to Uk and have it now, I am using it since launch and works great. You can add local news sources.

deep1

Using iOS 12 and prob the best beta 1 I have ever had, only issue i have so far is can’t add recurring Calander events but other than than it is really smooth and fast. Can’t wait for further releases!

peteeeed

deep1 wrote: »

Using iOS 12 and prob the best beta 1 I have ever had, only issue i have so far is can’t add recurring Calander events but other than than it is really smooth and fast. Can’t wait for further releases!

what about 3rd party app compatibility?

deep1

peteeeed wrote: »

what about 3rd party app compatibility?

Haven’t had any issue myself, but here is list of app working , broken etc.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/-ios-working-broken-and-soso-apps.2121506/

murpho999

deep1 wrote: »

Change the Region to Uk and have it now, I am using it since launch and works great. You can add local news sources.

Not a good solution for me as I wouldn't want it filling full of UK news.

What is the reason for it not being available in Ireland? It seems straghtforward.

awec

deep1 wrote: »

Change the Region to Uk and have it now, I am using it since launch and works great. You can add local news sources.

Changing region is an awful bollocks, cancels all subscriptions etc.

Sad Professor

murpho999 wrote: »

Not a good solution for me as I wouldn't want it filling full of UK news.

What is the reason for it not being available in Ireland? It seems straghtforward.

They have to curate news feeds for each country, make deals with publishers for exclusive content, integrate it into Siri, etc, otherwise it's just a glorified RSS reader (which is all the app really is anyway). It's only available in US, UK and Australia. I would see it as being tied up with Siri development, so any improvement, expansion is going to be slow going.

DubDJ

Looks like Siri has a new Irish voice. You can check it out in the video around the 2 minute mark. Seems a lot better than the previous one which is a mess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20xFvQEsDLE

FourFourRED

awec wrote: »

Changing region is an awful bollocks, cancels all subscriptions etc.

It doesn’t. That’s if you change iTunes Store region. This is different.

awec

Ah but then I have to stay in UK region forever, the app disappears as soon as I switch back.

MillField

How are people finding the beta? Are the performance improvements noticeable?

Blazer

Not sure about performance but I'm finding battery life improved on my 7+.
No issues with any apps not working so far.

SleetAndSnow

uninstalled it on my ipx but installed it on my ipad air. My god its like a new tablet. It was after getting so slow with pretty bad keyboard lag etc but now it rarely appears.

IamMetaldave

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

uninstalled it on my ipx but installed it on my ipad air. My god its like a new tablet. It was after getting so slow with pretty bad keyboard lag etc but now it rarely appears.

This is tremendous news! My iPad Air is donkey since 11.4.

SleetAndSnow

IamMetaldave wrote: »

This is tremendous news! My iPad Air is donkey since 11.4.

Lag still appears every so often but now where near as bad as 11.4. Hoping it improves! Delighted

peteeeed

Dev beta 2 is out along with the watch , mac and tv beta 2’s

Micky 32

I just downloaded ios 12 beta 2. If i turn on the phone it will prompt for passcode but it won’t prompt for sim pin! You have to go into phone and select sim pin and enter.

DubDJ

The iOS 12 Public beta just went live for those brave enough to try it on their main device.

I’ll be skipping it and waiting until the official release.

peteeeed

Ooooooooo iPad first I think then phone

Micky 32

Be warned, gps doesn’t work properly in the current 12 beta’s.

murpho999

DubDJ wrote: »

The iOS 12 Public beta just went live for those brave enough to try it on their main device.

I’ll be skipping it and waiting until the official release.

Surely out of all betas this must be the safest as it's all about stability improvements.

I'd say it's safer to install than previous buggy betas of iOS 11.

Sad Professor

The first two betas were reported as having good performance, but with a lot of stability problems and general bugginess. Phone call issues, GPS issues, music playback issues, Reminders issues, Carplay issues, Facetime issues, battery life slightly worse, some apps don't respond to keyboard input, frequent re-springs, etc. As usual a few users claim it feels like an official release while others are clambering to downgrade and wondering why there are so many bugs.

Unless you have a spare device hanging around, everyone should steer clear until at least public beta 4 or 5 and even then many third party app won't work properly.

FourFourRED

murpho999 wrote: »

Surely out of all betas this must be the safest as it's all about stability improvements.

I'd say it's safer to install than previous buggy betas of iOS 11.

Wouldn’t listen to this.

If you rely on your phone, particularly for third party apps. Just wait.

An iOS 12.0 beta cycle will go through a lot more drastic changes before final release in comparison to an 11.x.x Beta.

MillField

FourFourFM wrote: »

Wouldn’t listen to this.

If you rely on your phone, particularly for third party apps. Just wait.

An iOS 12.0 beta cycle will go through a lot more drastic changes before final release in comparison to an 11.x.x Beta.

Agreed. I've made the mistake before of joining the public beta of both macOS and iOS on my main devices from beta 1 and in no way was it worth it.

By all means go ahead and install if you have secondary devices that you are not worried about, but I would hold off for a while yet before installing any public beta.

DubDJ

murpho999 wrote: »

Surely out of all betas this must be the safest as it's all about stability improvements.

I'd say it's safer to install than previous buggy betas of iOS 11.

The first beta was supposed to be very stable/performant, even compared to the iOS 11.4 official release. This was probably coming from a lot of users on older devices that saw the speed increases.

I’ve seen a fair few complaints of beta 2 with bugs popping up more often than not. With any beta, there will be bugs that can affect day to day use drastically. The GPS bug makes it a no-go for me, same as decreased battery life.

That said, there’s been general concencous that it’s one of the more stable iOS beta releases.

TinCool

I've installed the beta on my iPhone 7, and compared to 11.2 (I think) that I was running, it was very noticeably quicker which is very welcome. Not that it was painfully slow, but I was noticing lag with the keyboard and general navigation of the phone and loading times. All of these have been reduced. I'm going to put it on my iPad Air2 this evening as that is definitely very sluggish these days.


Not sure what the GPS issues are but I've just checked google maps and plotted a route home from work and it picked it up in no time at all.

Micky 32

It’s when you’re on the move the GPS fecks up. The blue dot is all over the place and can’t keep up etc

peteeeed

Micky 32 wrote: »

It’s when you’re on the move the GPS fecks up. The blue dot is all over the place and can’t keep up etc

maybe your car is too fast

Micky 32

peteeeed wrote: »

maybe your car is too fast

Lol, even when i was walking the gps couldn’t lock onto the phone properly!

TinCool

Micky 32 wrote: »

It’s when you’re on the move the GPS fecks up. The blue dot is all over the place and can’t keep up etc

I'll check it out on the way home so.

IamMetaldave

Installed on my iPad Air last night, significantly faster than 11.4. Admittedly I haven’t played around too much but the lagginess that was really annoying in Safari is gone now. That alone was worth the upgrade 🀙ðŸ»

whiterebel

Micky 32 wrote: »

It’s when you’re on the move the GPS fecks up. The blue dot is all over the place and can’t keep up etc

Doing that on 11.4 iPhone for me, in Spain trying to find my way around and it’s ridiculous

eeloe

Was happening to me a couple of weeks ago in London too, absolute disaster.

waynegalway

Finding that the battery drain is quite high on the PB. Wouldn't mind going back to the latest official version of iOS11, but when I go to Settings>General>Profiles to remove the beta profile, the screen says "No profile currently installed".

Can someone else on the iOS12 PB just have a look and see if the profile is showing up as it should, or if you're getting the same message as me.

Thanks

Blazer

For some reason I lost all bar one of my backups of ios11 as soon as my first backup of ios12 went up. I had plenty of space as I'm on one of the icloud plans.
The only backup was from back in February which is obviously wrong since I had backed it up before upgrading.
The only reason I was trying to downgrade was because typing into safari scrolls down so you can't see what you're typing was a bit of a pain but nothing I can't live with so back to ios12.
Its definitely the most stable ios release I've tested since ios5 but in fairness its more of an update than a whole new OS.

FourFourRED

Blazer wrote: »

For some reason I lost all bar one of my backups of ios11 as soon as my first backup of ios12 went up. I had plenty of space as I'm on one of the icloud plans.
The only backup was from back in February which is obviously wrong since I had backed it up before upgrading.
The only reason I was trying to downgrade was because typing into safari scrolls down so you can't see what you're typing was a bit of a pain but nothing I can't live with so back to ios12.
Its definitely the most stable ios release I've tested since ios5 but in fairness its more of an update than a whole new OS.

The backups you make override the last one - regardless of what iOS version you are on. iCloud keeps only three archives of your backups at any time of the one phone setup.

ie Today, yesterday, Wednesday. (If you’re phone is backing up every 24 hours automatically).

The backup from February is most likely the last backup before you either changed phone or erased and set up your phone again as new. Or possibly even another iPhone / iOS device.

Try this to downgrade to iOS 11.4 keeping data intact - https://youtu.be/9ACouPt_wxY

Sad Professor

I always make an iTunes backup before installing a beta.

I think iCloud syncs most stuff now, so setting up as new isn't as painful as in the past. However, if the OS upgrades your iCloud account in any way, then sync often won't work with the downgraded OS.

Blazer

FourFourFM wrote: »

The backups you make override the last one - regardless of what iOS version you are on. iCloud keeps only three archives of your backups at any time of the one phone setup.

ie Today, yesterday, Wednesday. (If you’re phone is backing up every 24 hours automatically).

The backup from February is most likely the last backup before you either changed phone or erased and set up your phone again as new. Or possibly even another iPhone / iOS device.

Try this to downgrade to iOS 11.4 keeping data intact - https://youtu.be/9ACouPt_wxY

The february one was the same device.
I must give that video a shot although I might hang on until the next beta release and see if its fixed.

FourFourRED

Blazer wrote: »

The february one was the same device.
I must give that video a shot although I might hang on until the next beta release and see if its fixed.

It may have been the same physical device but iCloud won’t keep a backup that far back unless you never backed up again after that. (highly unlikely). Trust me on that.

Blazer

FourFourFM wrote: »

It may have been the same physical device but iCloud won’t keep a backup that far back unless you never backed up again after that. (highly unlikely). Trust me on that.

I might have set it up back then as a new device etc. My phone backs up automatically as its plugged in while I sleep so generally thats when most of the backups take place.
I must delete that backup anyway and keep track.

IamMetaldave

Dev Beta 3 is out.

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/07/03/apple-seeds-ios-12-beta-3-to-developers/