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    #212
    jmayo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,098 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    weisses wrote: »
    You hit the nail on the head ... Prison can make people more fukced up .. people radicalize to all kind of fringe groups in prison

    He did not convert to "Islam" ... He converted to an ISIS poster boy, maybe in another prison he would have walked out with swastikas tattooed on his face

    So he was praying to Jehovah then.
    Or maybe he was praying to Buddha.

    BTW I don't think ISIS poster boys are anything but followers of islam.
    You are of course free to find the jehovah witnesses, jews, catholics, buddhists, sikhs, mormons, lutherans, hindus, scientologists that are ISIS poster boys. :rolleyes:


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    #213
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    weisses wrote: »
    You hit the nail on the head ... Prison can make people more fukced up .. people radicalize to all kind of fringe groups in prison

    He did not convert to "Islam" ... He converted to an ISIS poster boy, maybe in another prison he would have walked out with swastikas tattooed on his face

    When have swastika face tattooed radicalised people start shooting cops/driving over people/suicide bombing all over Europe recently??


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    #214
    weisses
    Registered Users Posts: 9,437 ✭✭✭weisses


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    When have swastika face tattooed radicalised people start shooting cops/driving over people/suicide bombing all over Europe recently??

    You clearly don't get my point

    When have normal law abiding Muslims did these things you mentioned ?

    He converted into a into an ISIS idealized Muslim version

    But hey it suits you can shout MUSLIM


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    #215
    weisses
    Registered Users Posts: 9,437 ✭✭✭weisses


    inforfun wrote: »
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    Killed by a 27 year old Syrian pharmacist who was ****ing about with some axes while yelling the all so well known slogan.
    2nd Syrian in a a month that needed to be shot in the leg to avoid worse, in the Netherlands.

    Death by a thousand cuts ... Hes probably out in 2 weeks though ... utter scum


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    #216
    inforfun
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    weisses wrote: »
    Death by a thousand cuts ... Hes probably out in 2 weeks though ... utter scum

    If "out" means out of the country back to sand of origin, i am ok with that.

    But i am pretty sure the Dutch mental health care thinks they can "fix" this guy and soon will be set up in a house in a working class area. Unsupervised of course when he deosnt want that.


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    #217
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    weisses wrote: »
    You clearly don't get my point

    When have normal law abiding Muslims did these things you mentioned ?

    He converted into a into an ISIS idealized Muslim version

    But hey it suits you can shout MUSLIM

    That's an oxymoron.


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    #218
    weisses
    Registered Users Posts: 9,437 ✭✭✭weisses


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    When have swastika face tattooed radicalised people start shooting cops/driving over people/suicide bombing all over Europe recently??


    Oxymoron ?

    Then what is this ?


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    #219
    cfuserkildare
    Registered Users Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭cfuserkildare


    So I suppose this is just another poor misguided soul too then?

    https://news.sky.com/story/man-admits-prince-george-terror-plot-in-change-of-plea-11390636


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    #220
    gw80
    Registered Users Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭gw80


    weisses wrote: »
    You hit the nail on the head ... Prison can make people more fukced up .. people radicalize to all kind of fringe groups in prison

    He did not convert to "Islam" ... He converted to an ISIS poster boy, maybe in another prison he would have walked out with swastikas tattooed on his face
    Christ almighty, what is wrong with you,
    When was the last time a swastika wearing skin head was in the news for chopping someone up or shooting multiples of people.
    This is not a tit for tat gang issue, it is not a level playing field.
    Your an apologists of the highest order,
    Its not nazis against isis, its muslim extremists against me, you, everyone.
    People like you keep going on about ****ing Nazis, where are these evil nazis, iv looked everywhere, even under me bed,
    Dont get me wrong, im fully aware that there are neo nazi types out there, but for the most part they keep to themselves and are not sitting around thinking up plans to murder innocent people,
    Do you really think there are neo nazi types out there coming up with plans to kill innocent children with bombs or machetes,


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    #221
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    gw80 wrote: »
    nazis, iv looked everywhere, even under me bed,


    And how many extremist Muslims dis you find under there?


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    #222
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    weisses wrote: »
    Oxymoron ?

    Then what is this ?

    The oxymoron, or contradiction of terms, is that they wouldn’t be law abiding if they carried out atrocities.


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    #223
    weisses
    Registered Users Posts: 9,437 ✭✭✭weisses


    cfuserkildare wrote: »
    So I suppose this is just another poor misguided soul too then?

    https://news.sky.com/story/man-admits-prince-george-terror-plot-in-change-of-plea-11390636

    No one on this thread has any sympathy for ISIS and their followers

    So I don't see the relevance


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    #224
    weisses
    Registered Users Posts: 9,437 ✭✭✭weisses


    gw80 wrote: »
    Christ almighty, what is wrong with you,
    When was the last time a swastika wearing skin head was in the news for chopping someone up or shooting multiples of people.
    This is not a tit for tat gang issue, it is not a level playing field.
    Your an apologists of the highest order,
    Its not nazis against isis, its muslim extremists against me, you, everyone.
    People like you keep going on about ****ing Nazis, where are these evil nazis, iv looked everywhere, even under me bed,
    Dont get me wrong, im fully aware that there are neo nazi types out there, but for the most part they keep to themselves and are not sitting around thinking up plans to murder innocent people,
    Do you really think there are neo nazi types out there coming up with plans to kill innocent children with bombs or machetes,

    There is nothing wrong with me

    I agreed that you can radicalize in prison, and that it can take many forms all depending the situation and I gave an example ... Prison has a tendency to make people worse

    Not my fault you are unable to understand context

    Can you give me 1 example as to how I am being a apologist ?


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    #225
    weisses
    Registered Users Posts: 9,437 ✭✭✭weisses


    wrong person quoted


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    #226
    gw80
    Registered Users Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭gw80


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    And how many extremist Muslims dis you find under there?
    None.
    But i know which one id be less suprised to see.


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    #227
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    weisses wrote: »
    So you argue there is no such thing as a law abiding Muslim ? ...... terrific


    Where did I argue that?


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    #228
    weisses
    Registered Users Posts: 9,437 ✭✭✭weisses


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    Where did I argue that?

    Sorry .. I used the wrong quote


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    #229
    weisses
    Registered Users Posts: 9,437 ✭✭✭weisses


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    The oxymoron, or contradiction of terms, is that they wouldn’t be law abiding if they carried out atrocities.

    Are you really saying a Muslim cannot be a law abiding citizen ? ...


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    #230
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    weisses wrote: »
    Are you really saying a Muslim cannot be a law abiding citizen ? ...

    No, I haven't said that anywhere. Perhaps look up the meaning of the word oxymoron, or alternatively read post #222. :rolleyes:


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    #231
    TomSweeney
    Registered Users Posts: 3,193 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    Gerald Modern Rancor wrote: »
    Similar thing again this afternoon, not too far away in Netherlands:
    i.e. Known individual, weilding axe at officers, shouting about a skygod etc.

    A K9 sent in was injured and later passed away. RIP K9.


    Well he should be done with murdering a police officer.


    50 years in prison - no parole.


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    #232
    weisses
    Registered Users Posts: 9,437 ✭✭✭weisses


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    No, I haven't said that anywhere. Perhaps look up the meaning of the word oxymoron, or alternatively read post #222. :rolleyes:

    I thought you suggested it at post 217 ..... But I see now I wasn't the only one thinking that ....thanks


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    #233
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    weisses wrote: »
    I thought you suggested it at post 217 ..... But I see now I wasn't the only one thinking that ....thanks

    No, you weren’t, the mod though that too, luckily he understood what I meant when I PM’d him and is going to rescind the card. Now, back to Liege....


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    #234
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    No, you weren’t, the mod though that too, luckily he understood what I meant when I PM’d him and is going to rescind the card. Now, back to Liege....


    It's fairly obvious to everyone what you meant. It's not surprising you back pedaled either.


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    #235
    weisses
    Registered Users Posts: 9,437 ✭✭✭weisses


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    No, you weren’t, the mod though that too, luckily he understood what I meant when I PM’d him and is going to rescind the card. Now, back to Liege....

    So what is the oxymoron in this
    When have normal law abiding Muslims did these things you mentioned ?

    You claimed it was one .. Now you have to only back it up ... simples


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    #236
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    weisses wrote: »
    So what is the oxymoron in this



    You claimed it was one .. Now you have to only back it up ... simples

    An oxymoron is a contradiction of terms. OK. You've taken that in? Should I explain again? CONTRADICTION OF TERMS.

    You asked me "When have normal law abiding (bolded by me) Muslims did these things you mentioned?"

    The things i'd mentioned were "shooting cops/driving over people/suicide bombing"


    If someone is shooting cops, driving over people and suicide bombing, they are, BY DEFINITION, not LAW ABIDING therefore its an OXYMORON (a contradiction of terms).

    Its literally basic English, no back peddling required.


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    #237
    weisses
    Registered Users Posts: 9,437 ✭✭✭weisses


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    An oxymoron is a contradiction of terms. OK. You've taken that in? Should I explain again? CONTRADICTION OF TERMS.

    You asked me "When have normal law abiding (bolded by me) Muslims did these things you mentioned?"

    The things i'd mentioned were "shooting cops/driving over people/suicide bombing"


    If someone is shooting cops, driving over people and suicide bombing, they are, BY DEFINITION, not LAW ABIDING therefore its an OXYMORON (a contradiction of terms).

    Its literally basic English, no back peddling required.

    No you bolded the whole sentence

    I asked you When normal law abiding Muslims are on a a rampage shooting cops/driving over people/suicide bombing in Europe

    An Oxymoron is a phrase that does not seem to make any logical sense therefore To you a law abiding Muslim doesn't seem to make any logical sense

    the mistake you made is that all Muslims have to go on a a rampage shooting cops/driving over people/suicide bombing in Europe in your Oxymoron statement for it to work

    A few examples

    Clearly confused
    Act naturally
    Painfully beautiful
    Deafening silence
    Pretty ugly
    Pretty fierce
    Pretty cruel
    Definitely maybe

    and you added law abiding Muslim to that list

    Get it ?


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    #238
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    weisses wrote: »
    No you bolded the whole sentence

    I asked you When normal law abiding Muslims are on a a rampage shooting cops/driving over people/suicide bombing in Europe

    An Oxymoron is a phrase that does not seem to make any logical sense therefore To you a law abiding Muslim doesn't seem to make any logical sense

    the mistake you made is that all Muslims have to go on a a rampage shooting cops/driving over people/suicide bombing in Europe in your Oxymoron statement for it to work

    A few examples

    Clearly confused
    Act naturally
    Painfully beautiful
    Deafening silence
    Pretty ugly
    Pretty fierce
    Pretty cruel
    Definitely maybe

    and you added law abiding Muslim to that list

    Get it ?

    To use your list above, would:

    a law abiding suicide bomber
    a law abiding person purposely driving into a crowd
    a law abiding cop killer

    make logical sense?? Or are they oxymorons??

    This is the last time i'll be replying on this. I know you are trying to drag the thread so far off course that it's shut down, its a well known tactic.

    Now, back to Liege

    "He was a white Belgium national with serious mental issues who recently radicalized in prison ..."

    any source that states he had mental health issues, like you have claimed?? Or have you made that up?


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    #239
    weisses
    Registered Users Posts: 9,437 ✭✭✭weisses


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    To use your list above, would:

    a law abiding suicide bomber
    a law abiding person purposely driving into a crowd
    a law abiding cop killer

    make logical sense?? Or are they oxymorons??


    Ahh be fair now ... You said a law abiding Muslim is an oxymoron

    By looking at your own examples do you now see how stupid that sounds

    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Now, back to Liege

    "He was a white Belgium national with serious mental issues who recently radicalized in prison ..."

    any source that states he had mental health issues, like you have claimed?? Or have you made that up?


    Lets continue your reasoning

    What is a mentally stable, violent, murdering drug abuser ?


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    #240
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    weisses wrote: »
    Ahh be fair now ... You said a law abiding Muslim is an oxymoron

    By looking at your own examples do you now see how stupid that sounds





    Lets continue your reasoning

    What is a mentally stable, violent, murdering drug abuser ?

    So have you a source for this mans mental instability??


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    #241
    weisses
    Registered Users Posts: 9,437 ✭✭✭weisses


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    So have you a source for this mans mental instability??

    Yes ... Look at his bio

    I cannot help you any further If you conclude he was a mentally stable person.

    I assume you did read up on him yes ?


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