Liege

fly_agaric

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44289404

"Police sources quoted in local media said the man was heard shouting "Allahu Akbar" ("God is greatest" in Arabic)."

Of course it is "Ramadan" isn't it.
At least the holy month of prayer, fasting, celebration (and ultra-violence in the name of the Prophet!) will be over in a few weeks.

Dohnjoe

american ninja warrior wrote: »

no different from Dublin then

Yeah, if you're comparing Dublin from the eighties with modern day Hungary then you'd be a little closer. Take a 5x hit in salary and you're getting only half off the milk - do the maths from there

That's of course if you can buy milk in Hungary what with all the Muslims everywhere and suicide bombings :pac:

emo72

It's all ****ed up. ****ed up man. No way for people to live. With that threat hanging over you. But maybe you have a better chance of dying from a peanut allergy.

Snake Plisken

They should take the Muslims who radicalised this scumbag and lock them in solitary confinement for 10 years! Same for any other Muslim prison gangs

weisses

Snake Plisken wrote: »

They should take the Muslims who radicalised this scumbag and lock them in solitary confinement for 10 years! Same for any other Muslim prison gangs

FYP ... Or is it only Muslim gangs you are opposing ?

wexie

weisses wrote: »

FYP ... Or is it only Muslim gangs you are opposing ?

Only Muslims, christian white supremacists are A okay

:rolleyes:

jmayo

wexie wrote: »

Only Muslims, christian white supremacists are A okay

:rolleyes:

They are not ok but at least the fookers are not radicalising people to go slaughter others who are not of the same beliefs.

BTW remember how the Cahrlie Hebdo attacker, Chf Kouachi, was radicalised in prison ?

Jeeze how long is since the Charlie Hebdo attacks?
Remember all the candles, the vigils and who could forget the march through Paris being led by politicians vowing this would be stopped.

Now how many attacks have there been since and how many more victims have there been, in France and outside France?

But of course to the usual downplayers of these atrocities a bit of whataboutery is always useful.
And when someone talks about radicalisation in prison one muppet asks if he was radicalised by vegans and another one trumps up what about far right christian white supremacists. :rolleyes:

Anything but face facts of where the huge issue really lies,.

Snake Plisken

wexie wrote: »

Only Muslims, christian white supremacists are A okay

:rolleyes:

Lol wexir and Weiss are back same poster I would say!

wexie

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Lol wexir and Weiss are back same poster I would say!

yeah that's exactly it, you genius you, ya worked it out.

Snake Plisken

Some of you deniers would want to watch this well researched video by Sargon
These killings prove it’s the Muslim gangs who are radicalising prisoners and run a lot of the prisons in the U.K. and Europe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD-BRJdnUsM

Captain Obvious

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Some of you deniers would want to watch this well researched video by Sargon
These killings prove it’s the Muslim gangs who are radicalising prisoners and run a lot of the prisons in the U.K. and Europe

Deniers of what, exactly?

wexie

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Deniers of what, exactly?

I've been trying to figure that out for a while.

I doubt a clear and concise answer will be forthcoming though

Snake Plisken

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Deniers of what, exactly?

Wexie and Weiss trying to deflect away from there being a Muslim gang issue in prisons across Europe and using the usual deflect to other religions excuse, well it wasn’t a white Christian gang that radicalised this scum bag who murdered 4 innocent people in Belgium! It seems to be all fun and games for Wexie!

wexie

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Wexie and Weiss trying to deflect away from there being a Muslim gang issue in prisons across Europe and using the usual deflect to other religions excuse, well it wasn’t a white Christian gang that radicalised this scum bag who murdered 4 innocent people in Belgium! It seems to be all fun and games for Wexie!

Not at all, and I'd love for you to show me where I've said anything of the sort.

As a matter of fact I think there's a 'gang' issue in prisons in general.

Difference between you and me is that I don't just single out the muslims but happily condemn them along with whatever gangs there might be. Like the far right ones...

I think most of us here know why that is though don't we?

thebull85

A fourth person has been found dead in Liege.

Snake Plisken

wexie wrote: »

Not at all, and I'd love for you to show me where I've said anything of the sort.

As a matter of fact I think there's a 'gang' issue in prisons in general.

Difference between you and me is that I don't just single out the muslims but happily condemn them along with whatever gangs there might be. Like the far right ones...

I think most of us here know why that is though don't we?

No spell it out go on I dare you!
I provided you with a well documented video above outlining credible reports of radicalising of not only ordinary Muslims but also high profile non-Muslim killers! Btw that video was published before the murders in Belgium by a day or two!

Ronaldinho

wexie wrote: »

Not at all, and I'd love for you to show me where I've said anything of the sort.

Difference between you and me is that I don't just single out the muslims....

I think most of us here know why that is though don't we?

Because this is a thread about a crime perpetrated by a Muslim??

enricoh

american ninja warrior wrote: »

could the number of muslims in a population have any correlation with the number of terrorist attacks, just a idea, anyone have a opinion?

Do u honestly expect a response from the usual suspects on here?! Rather naive, now let's talk about the klu klux clan instead!

thebull85

american ninja warrior wrote: »

could the number of muslims in a population have any correlation with the number of terrorist attacks, just a idea, anyone have a opinion?

Anyone???

weisses

Ronaldinho wrote: »

Because this is a thread about a crime perpetrated by a Muslim??

I think it's questionable he was a real Muslim to begin with

weisses

wexie wrote: »

I've been trying to figure that out for a while.

I doubt a clear and concise answer will be forthcoming though

Don't get your hopes up

weldoninhio

weisses wrote: »

I think it's questionable he was a real Muslim to begin with

The ostrich defence. Keep your head in the sand there buddy.

weisses

weldoninhio wrote: »

The ostrich defence. Keep your head in the sand there buddy.

He was a white Belgium national with serious mental issues who recently radicalized in prison ...

I know the term Muslim fits your narrative but I think it's highly unlikely your man was a devoted supporter of Islam

But if he needs to be a Muslim for your circle jerk to continue then I won't stop you

TomSweeney

weisses wrote: »

He was a white Belgium national with serious mental issues who recently radicalized in prison ...

I know the term Muslim fits your narrative but I think it's highly unlikely your man was a devoted supporter of Islam

But if he needs to be a Muslim for your circle jerk to continue then I won't stop you

Correct, well said.
Mentally ill people act alone, I mean it's not like there is some sacred book that commands the believer to kill the kufar non believer.

Ronaldinho

weisses wrote: »

He was a white Belgium national ................

But if he needs to be a Muslim

So what you're saying is that being a 'white Belgian' and Muslim are mutually exclusive? Sounds a bit racist to me.

Think I'll defer to the Reuters version of events: https://www.reuters.com/article/belgium-shooting/belgium-under-scrutiny-over-release-of-radicalised-convict-before-attack-idUSL5N1T06DN

• He converted to Islam while in detention, a Belgian security source told Reuters, and was under suspicion of radicalisation.

• A Koran and prayer rug were found during a search of his cell, local media said.

• A cleaning woman at the school who found herself “nose to face with the killer” told public broadcaster RTBF that he spared her because she was Muslim.

• Herman had shouted “Allahu Akbar”, the Muslim affirmation of faith, during his attack and he had had contact with Islamist radicals in jail in 2016 and early 2017.

• He also appeared to have followed online exhortations from Islamic State to stab police officers and use their service weapons to shoot others, prosecutors said.

I would suggest that you consider the possibility that people are angry not out of any prejudice of this religion or that, but because European security agencies and the bureaucrats they report to seem to be failing to deal with the threat of radical Islamic terrorism.

According to lawmaker George Dallemagne, who sits on several Belgian parliamentary security committees.
“We have a tragic experience in Belgium, with people entering prison as petty criminals and leaving as terrorists,” he told Reuters.

weldoninhio

weisses wrote: »

He was a white Belgium national with serious mental issues who recently radicalized in prison ...

I know the term Muslim fits your narrative but I think it's highly unlikely your man was a devoted supporter of Islam

But if he needs to be a Muslim for your circle jerk to continue then I won't stop you

Have you got a link to any mental health issues that he had??

BoJack Horseman

weisses wrote: »

He was a white Belgium national with serious mental issues who recently radicalized in prison ...

Prison authorities found a Quaran and a prayar mat in his cell.

So...

- Quaran
- Prayar mat
- "Radicalised"

Do you think he was a Gideon or a Unitarian..... or a Muslim?

4068ac1elhodqr

Similar thing again this afternoon, not too far away in Netherlands:
i.e. Known individual, weilding axe at officers, shouting about a skygod etc.

A K9 sent in was injured and later passed away. RIP K9.

weisses

Ronaldinho wrote: »

So what you're saying is that being a 'white Belgian' and Muslim are mutually exclusive? Sounds a bit racist to me.

Think I'll defer to the Reuters version of events: https://www.reuters.com/article/belgium-shooting/belgium-under-scrutiny-over-release-of-radicalised-convict-before-attack-idUSL5N1T06DN

• He converted to Islam while in detention, a Belgian security source told Reuters, and was under suspicion of radicalisation.

• A Koran and prayer rug were found during a search of his cell, local media said.

• A cleaning woman at the school who found herself “nose to face with the killer” told public broadcaster RTBF that he spared her because she was Muslim.

• Herman had shouted “Allahu Akbar”, the Muslim affirmation of faith, during his attack and he had had contact with Islamist radicals in jail in 2016 and early 2017.

• He also appeared to have followed online exhortations from Islamic State to stab police officers and use their service weapons to shoot others, prosecutors said.

I would suggest that you consider the possibility that people are angry not out of any prejudice of this religion or that, but because European security agencies and the bureaucrats they report to seem to be failing to deal with the threat of radical Islamic terrorism.

According to lawmaker George Dallemagne, who sits on several Belgian parliamentary security committees.
“We have a tragic experience in Belgium, with people entering prison as petty criminals and leaving as terrorists,” he told Reuters.

You hit the nail on the head ... Prison can make people more fukced up .. people radicalize to all kind of fringe groups in prison

He did not convert to "Islam" ... He converted to an ISIS poster boy, maybe in another prison he would have walked out with swastikas tattooed on his face

inforfun

Gerald Modern Rancor wrote: »

Similar thing again this afternoon, not too far away in Netherlands:
i.e. Known individual, weilding axe at officers, shouting about a skygod etc.

A K9 sent in was injured and later passed away. RIP K9.

Killed by a 27 year old Syrian pharmacist who was ****ing about with some axes while yelling the all so well known slogan.
2nd Syrian in a a month that needed to be shot in the leg to avoid worse, in the Netherlands.

Thanks Merkel.