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Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

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    #302
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,790 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    vicwatson wrote: »
    I’m not suggesting that but there is little or no visible presence and this does not help. I didn’t blame the Gardai.

    Help what?

    Very odd post tbh.

    There is nothing in either of the cases this week that a beat Garda would have prevented. The locations.. the methods


    Bizarre reasoning tbh are ye a bit mad ?


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    #303
    Conservatory
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Conservatory


    The guard was right to shoot if he felt anyway threatened. Fair play to him. Why should he risk leaving his kids with no daddy because some lad wants to brandish a knife and go kidnapping girls?


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    #304
    AudreyHepburn
    Registered Users Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    A horrific situation - I hope to god the Gardai find her and they haven’t lost their only chance to do it.

    I do understand why they had to shoot him, I don’t blame them at all. He was armed and therefore a threat. I just wish it hadn’t come to that.


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    #305
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    A horrific situation - I hope to god the Gardai find her and they haven’t lost their only chance to do it.

    I do understand why they had to shoot him, I don’t blame them at all. He was armed and therefore a threat. I just wish it hadn’t come to that.

    This is a fair and reasonable post, fair play.


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    #306
    Suckit
    Registered Users Posts: 11,215 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    Why does twitter always scream Larry Murphys name whenever there is an abduction in Ireland?

    As if there is and will only ever be one evil scumbag in Ireland.

    I hope they can trace the cars tracks over the past two days.


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    #307
    pjohnson
    Registered Users Posts: 23,329 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    bubblypop wrote: »
    What does this have to do with it?

    People need to start their agenda's ASAP.


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    #308
    Fanny Wank
    Registered Users Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭Fanny Wank


    Suckit wrote: »
    Why does twitter always scream Larry Murphys name whenever there is an abduction in Ireland?

    An awful lot of people are really stupid


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    #309
    TallGlass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    For the people complaining about the Garda shooting the guy with a knife, here is a guy in a London tube station, going around trying to stab people and Police. They have tasers, the detective didn't. What do you expect the Garda to do, try wrestle him with a knife? The man produced a knife, which is a serious amount of force, the Garda met that force with the only item he had to meet it with, which in this case was a gun.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjhbYo5nKYk


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    #310
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users Posts: 16,113 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Lets all support the Gardai and respect them for doing what they can to keep the public safe . They are human beings under incredible pressure in horrendous situations .
    I really hope they find Jastine and she is safe .


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    #311
    Telly
    Registered Users Posts: 520 ✭✭✭Telly


    Hope there’s some way of finding her now :(


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    #312
    wellwhynot
    Registered Users Posts: 280 ✭✭wellwhynot


    Let’s hope they can find some location information from his mobile phone. This will a very long night for her poor parents.


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    #313
    vicwatson
    Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    listermint wrote: »
    Help what?

    Very odd post tbh.

    There is nothing in either of the cases this week that a beat Garda would have prevented. The locations.. the methods


    Bizarre reasoning tbh are ye a bit mad ?

    It’s not these two cases I’m referring to, but the general levels of crime and anti social behaviour is on the rise, and sometimes I don’t think we have a force at all.

    Im not getting into an argument with you or anyone else. Wrong place


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    #314
    [Deleted User]
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    taylor3 wrote: »
    Yes they do have a built in GPS in them. I have a 171 myself.

    I’m not really up in technology. Would gps data be stored in the cars system for a few days?


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    #315
    JimPa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭JimPa


    We have no idea what went on at the scene. Maybe the man, knowing he was cornered pretended he was armed and 'aimed' at an officer. Maybe the police believed she was in the vehicle and in danger? We have no idea. Let's just hope she is found one way or the other for everyone's sake.


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    #316
    AudreyHepburn
    Registered Users Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    Suckit wrote: »
    Why does twitter always scream Larry Murphys name whenever there is an abduction in Ireland?

    As if there is and will only ever be one evil scumbag in Ireland.

    I hope they can trace the cars tracks over the past two days.

    To be fair the between the nature of the crime and where it happened it’s not hard to think of him first. I know I did.


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    #317
    bloodless_coup
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭bloodless_coup


    bubblypop wrote: »
    What does this have to do with it?

    Well if he is the same nationality as the girl it may point to certain things.

    But no act super offended someone asked the suspects nationality to garner thanks.


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    #318
    wellwhynot
    Registered Users Posts: 280 ✭✭wellwhynot


    doylefe wrote: »
    Well if he is the same nationality as the girl it may point to certain things.

    But no act super offended someone asked the suspects nationality to garner thanks.

    He is Irish according to reports and he has no prior connection to her.


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    #319
    BoroMan32
    Registered Users Posts: 616 ✭✭✭BoroMan32


    The Mirror have named him.

    See link: https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/garda-siochana-enniskerry-county-wicklow-12568996


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    #320
    pjohnson
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    doylefe wrote: »
    Well if he is the same nationality as the girl it may point to certain things.

    But no act super offended someone asked the suspects nationality to garner thanks.

    Now it the "offended" card. Grow the fùck up.


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    #321
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,790 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    vicwatson wrote: »
    It’s not these two cases I’m referring to, but the general levels of crime and anti social behaviour is on the rise, and sometimes I don’t think we have a force at all.

    Im not getting into an argument with you or anyone else. Wrong place

    Yet in your earlies post you related this crime to it.

    As I said bizarre.

    Just bizarre


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    #322
    JimPa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭JimPa


    Let's hope the girl is found.


    There is also two innocent Irish kids out there who may have had a perfectly normal Daddy up to yesterday. Now all this. Now he's dead.


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    #323
    Mahony0509
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Mahony0509


    I'm in no way bashing Gardai here btw just asking a question. It mentions in the Mirror that he was shot in the head. Isn't it usual police protocol to aim for the chest and/or legs to disable a threatening suspect?


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    #324
    AnneFrank
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭AnneFrank


    doylefe wrote: »
    Well if he is the same nationality as the girl it may point to certain things.

    But no act super offended someone asked the suspects nationality to garner thanks.

    That was exactly my reasoning


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    #325
    Conservatory
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Conservatory


    He’s on Facebook and has a kidnapper look about him.


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    #326
    OldMrBrennan83
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    #327
    thebull85
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    pjohnson wrote: »
    Now it the "offended" card. Grow the fùck up.

    People here dont like when you ask the nationality of an offender.


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    #328
    PopTarts
    Registered Users Posts: 2,199 ✭✭✭PopTarts


    TallGlass wrote: »
    They have tasers, the detective didn't. What do you expect the Garda to do, try wrestle him with a knife? ]

    Shoot him in the arm.. the leg?


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    #329
    AnneFrank
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭AnneFrank


    listermint wrote: »
    Yet in your earlies post you related this crime to it.

    As I said bizarre.

    Just bizarre

    Why are you just attacking posters, it's really not the place, it's pathetic really


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    #330
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,790 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Conservatory wrote: »
    He’s on Facebook and has a kidnapper look about him.

    Don't be throwing up links. You have no evidence that is the same person.

    The internet is a mad place for conclusions


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    #331
    [Deleted User]
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    doylefe wrote: »
    Well if he is the same nationality as the girl it may point to certain things.

    But no act super offended someone asked the suspects nationality to garner thanks.

    Who's offended?
    Just dunno why it would make any difference what nationality he is


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