Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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ButtersSuki wrote: »

Did McDermott mention his sister again? And that she writes for The Irish Times? And that she’s a contributor on The Last Word?

I can’t say what I’d like to say about him or I’ll be banned. Let’s just leave it at I’m not a fan.

As bad as he is, she's insufferable. Every time she's on the Last Word she brings every discussion around to feminism. For some reason they have her doing movie reviews. Every review is copy and paste nonsense about feminism no matter what the movie is.
She should do a show with her brother so at least we'll know where the two of them are at a given time and avoid them both with a bit more ease.

NoteAgent

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

In fairness now didn't they win an RTÉ competition to be broadcast on the RTÉ player, and then eventually it progressed to TV?

Tbh Tordoff and Colgan deserve to be on Netflix not RTE. Literally any random YT video with them in it > any RTE comedy

Shefwedfan

McGaggs wrote: »

"The latest results show more than 3.16 million listeners (15+) tune into radio every weekday – that is daily radio listening at 82% of all adults."

Dubious.

Not so sure, a lot of people still listen to radio

What it does tell me is that local radio and not RTE is providing the service for the majority of the country, both young and old(see below). RTE I would have expected to be strong outside Dublin but in reality it isn't.

So in this case why are we pumbing money into RTE radio when it is not really providing a service, would we not be better to use RTE Radio 1 for sport, dump 2FM as it is useless and either use the money to invest in more TV programs?


Based on the below Dee Forbes shouldn't be banging a drum about licenses and should be dumping 2fm and maybe some of the other stations

Who exactly is listening to RTE Digital?


Among the younger, 15-34, audience in the country Local/regional Radio is in the majority share position achieving a combined share of minutes of 65.1% (+0.3%) versus 34.9% (-0.3%) for National Radio. In particular, the local/regional group holds its strongest share position among this age cohort in Dublin (70.8%), in the Dublin Commuter region (67.9%), the Multi-city region (66.4%) and in Cork (71.8%).
Among the older 35+ age segment, Local/Regional radio is slightly ahead in terms of share of all minutes listened, 51.6% (-0.4%) compared to National radio. However, in regional markets among this age group, National Radio holds the majority share of minutes in Dublin (60.0%), the Dublin Commuter region (59.8%), the Multi-city area (52.1%) and the North East & Midlands area (51.8%). (See T8).

RabbleRouser2k

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Not so sure, a lot of people still listen to radio

What it does tell me is that local radio and not RTE is providing the service for the majority of the country, both young and old(see below). RTE I would have expected to be strong outside Dublin but in reality it isn't.

So in this case why are we pumbing money into RTE radio when it is not really providing a service, would we not be better to use RTE Radio 1 for sport, dump 2FM as it is useless and either use the money to invest in more TV programs?


Based on the below Dee Forbes shouldn't be banging a drum about licenses and should be dumping 2fm and maybe some of the other stations

Who exactly is listening to RTE Digital?

*just snipped the rest-because I didn't want to clog the thread*

Those figures are interesting, but I wonder if RTE is kind of fudging things a little. For example, I DESPISE the Rose of Tralee... but RTE were/are notorious for fiddling with the ratings on that (especially certain presenters). For example, they would say 'One Million people watched the Rose of Tralee each night' while Tubridy presented it. Well, actually-it was 500, 000... but RTE added up the audience before the news break, and after the newsbreak. (The usual RTE ROT schedule).
And that made a million.... :rolleyes:


Except that would essentially say that you had an entirely new audience before and after the news...
(They'd never had to do that when other presenters were hosting-they genuinely got a full million. or over a million, viewers per night).

Unfortunately for Tubs, they weren't able to hide that info (the ratings used to be published in the RTE Guide and TV now, with viewership figures included). And for the next year, He'd lost about 100,000 to 150,000. So now it was 'just under a million viewers' tuned into the ROT...

We know that local radio tends to be less lucrative., But it tends to be more local oriented stuff. And gets the higher audience. So RTE is missing a huge chunk of audience revenues there. IF RTE are doing similar 'fudging' to ROT... it will explain the huge audience.

But what RTE's sort of missing the point of, now, is... the days of 'can you play my favourite song for my Betty/ Bobby... it's our 3 year anniversary' are gone. Because if it's your 'favourite' song, you can just download it off of paid site, or go to youtube, or purchase it in a store (yep, they're still around-Golden Discs saw a revival due to people WANTING physical media now) Or load up your playlist.
So many options that make Radio kind of obsolete.

kneemos

McGaggs wrote: »

"The latest results show more than 3.16 million listeners (15+) tune into radio every weekday – that is daily radio listening at 82% of all adults."

Dubious.

At home,work or in the car. Most people probably would hear some radio.

mikemac2

Close to 400k for Joe Duffy, king of misery porn

If you ring up and say your husband or wife died, child died, serious health condition whatever the bould Joe will not stop until he knows all your problems

A lady rang up this week and mentioned her husband died at 37 and gave no more details. Duffy was like a hound dog chasing for every detail of her husbands early death

Elmo

ROT usually gets a higher audience after the news. Much like other broadcasters RTÉ will mention peak audience (same goes for Virgin Media who’s love island figures where good weren’t as good as you might think over the course of the series).

Shefwedfan

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Those figures are interesting, but I wonder if RTE is kind of fudging things a little. For example, I DESPISE the Rose of Tralee... etc.

You do understand those numbers are not just for RTÉ but all radio so today fm etc

Shefwedfan

https://www.bai.ie/en/download/133649/

This is the breakdown...for the amount of money getting a poor return for RTÉ radio

irishproduce

I went on to RTE news this afternoon.

Top story is that Labour in UK have agreed to come together with others in opposition there to try to bring about a law that would stop no deal brexit.
In essence, RTE making prominence of a story to undermine Brexit.

So I have a look at UK news sites Sky News, Guardian and BBC.

All of them have the story in their top 3 stories, but ... Sky and Guardian both have also in their top 3 stories, that Nigel Farage today stated his party would go into coalition with Tories in order to deliver Brexit if needed.
In essence, giving almost equal prominence to the story that Brexit has other ways to be delivered successfully.
BBC also have it but buried way down on the site

RTE? Nothing - no mention of this story.

It is so frustrating that the bias in RTE is so blatant. We have to pay for this publication of the correct messages.

ohnonotgmail

irishproduce wrote: »

I went on to RTE news this afternoon.

Top story is that Labour in UK have agreed to come together with others in opposition there to try to bring about a law that would stop no deal brexit.
In essence, RTE making prominence of a story to undermine Brexit.

So I have a look at UK news sites Sky News, Guardian and BBC.

All of them have the story in their top 3 stories, but ... Sky and Guardian both have also in their top 3 stories, that Nigel Farage today stated his party would go into coalition with Tories in order to deliver Brexit if needed.
In essence, giving almost equal prominence to the story that Brexit has other ways to be delivered successfully.
BBC also have it but buried way down on the site

RTE? Nothing - no mention of this story.

It is so frustrating that the bias in RTE is so blatant. We have to pay for this publication of the correct messages.

The bias is that the farage story is somehow news despite the man having no elected MPs and and the tories not wanting to hold a general election.

The Late Late Show

Elmo wrote: »

ROT usually gets a higher audience after the news. Much like other broadcasters RTÉ will mention peak audience (same goes for Virgin Media who’s love island figures where good weren’t as good as you might think over the course of the series).

To me, Rose of Tralee and Love Island are terrible series that are both cheap to film and requiring little input from the TV station. How people can watch and continue to watch such shows I don't know. One of these 2 shows is a remnant of bad TV from a bygone era and the other typifies the bad reality TV that has hijacked our screens over the last 20 years. Sure, these shows have an audience but it is the only audiences TV caters for often.

Elmo

The Late Late Show wrote: »

To me, Rose of Tralee and Love Island are terrible series that are both cheap to film and requiring little input from the TV station. How people can watch and continue to watch such shows I don't know. One of these 2 shows is a remnant of bad TV from a bygone era and the other typifies the bad reality TV that has hijacked our screens over the last 20 years. Sure, these shows have an audience but it is the only audiences TV caters for often.

But surely Modern TV is better than old fashion TV, or you just don't get the same time of programming as you did before TV has gone down hill, or This is the golden era of TV

Varta

kneemos wrote: »

At home,work or in the car. Most people probably would hear some radio.

But that is very different to 'listening' to the radio.

The Late Late Show

Elmo wrote: »

But surely Modern TV is better than old fashion TV, or you just don't get the same time of programming as you did before TV has gone down hill, or This is the golden era of TV

There seems to be mostly poor reality fare these days but every now and again a good drama (Breaking Bad, Love/Hate, The Handmaid's Tale, Peaky Blinders, etc.) comes along to save the day. At the moment, thankfully the 2 latter ones came along with one ending and the other starting back to back. That cancels out all that Love Island and Rose of Tralee stuff.

Fan of Netflix

2FM should be shut down, would save 5 million euros per year. It offers nothing commercial radio doesn't. Very few would miss it.

Fan of Netflix

I see their new "star" Doireann Garrihy is god daughter of Ian Dempsey, and sister of another RTE actress Aoibheann Garrihy. Good aul RTE keeping it in the family once again. Is there an other public service broadcaster in the world that is so guilty of nepotism?

The Late Late Show

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

2FM should be shut down, would save 5 million euros per year. It offers nothing commercial radio doesn't. Very few would miss it.

Awful station playing awful modern music that too many other stations are polluting the airwaves with as well. And besides, with Nicky gone from it there is no point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RabbleRouser2k

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

I see their new "star" Doireann Garrihy is god daughter of Ian Dempsey, and sister of another RTE actress Aoibheann Garrihy. Good aul RTE keeping it in the family once again. Is there an other public service broadcaster in the world that is so guilty of nepotism?

Her, Eoghann McDermott, and the addition of James Patrice...

Say it with me, RTE-Instagram likes does NOT EQUAL AN AUDIENCE!

I don't give a s**t that Patrice dresses up in some dodgy costumes.... but there was many cutbacks on the ROT. Notice the winner didn't get a bouquet, and the presentation was so brief, they probably put that crap up on instagram.

The music was crap-the LLS country show crew. More money was spent on getting Eoghan, Doirreann and... James to Tralee than was spent on the actual show.
IT was the 60th anniversary-yet it was the cheapest ROT I've seen in a long while.

Fan of Netflix

The Late Late Show wrote: »

Awful station playing awful modern music that too many other stations are polluting the airwaves with as well. And besides, with Nicky gone from it there is no point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm amazed 2FM is still in operation pissing 5 million per year down the drain. Why are they so reluctant to get rid of it?

kneemos

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

I'm amazed 2FM is still in operation pissing 5 million per year down the drain. Why are they so reluctant to get rid of it?

How does it lose money?
Even local stations can make shilling.

PopePalpatine

kneemos wrote: »

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

I'm amazed 2FM is still in operation pissing 5 million per year down the drain. Why are they so reluctant to get rid of it?

How does it lose money?
Even local stations can make shilling.

Local stations don't pay nearly as much as RTE.

retalivity

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

I'm amazed 2FM is still in operation pissing 5 million per year down the drain. Why are they so reluctant to get rid of it?

Too many snouts in the trough.

jimmynokia

And..... Dave fanning spinning a yarn for his daughter?? https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/hayley-fanning-daughter-of-rts-dave-fanning-on-hanging-out-with-the-coolest-pop-star-on-the-planet-38433852.html

AndyBoBandy

jimmynokia wrote: »

And..... Dave fanning spinning a yarn for his daughter?? https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/hayley-fanning-daughter-of-rts-dave-fanning-on-hanging-out-with-the-coolest-pop-star-on-the-planet-38433852.html

she'll be taking over the celeb goss slot on 2FM as Lottie makes the step up to full time presenter, or better still, they'll move Lottie to TV??

Her and the Peru girl would make a great presenting team!!

RabbleRouser2k

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

she'll be taking over the celeb goss slot on 2FM as Lottie makes the step up to full time presenter, or better still, they'll move Lottie to TV??

Her and the Peru girl would make a great presenting team!!

They're gonna try with Lottie, aren't they...

Doesn't matter how many lives her dad ruined because of drugs, you're going to like her GODDAMMIT!.

Bass Reeves

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

I'm amazed 2FM is still in operation pissing 5 million per year down the drain. Why are they so reluctant to get rid of it?

kneemos wrote: »

How does it lose money?
Even local stations can make shilling.

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Local stations don't pay nearly as much as RTE.

If you compare Radio 1 with Newstalk you see the issues. Look at the daytime schedule from 7am-7pm. Radio ! has 7 schedule shows while Newstalk has 5. Along with taht radio 1 is paying presenters big money for shows of 60-90 minutes. Three of these shows Tubs, Darcy and Liveline have presenters on megabucks for short shows. As well as presenters you have researchers and program managers all on money above the industry norm in Ireland. This is replicated accross the company.

Miriam O'Callaghan during the main winter schedule presents a current affairs shoe for two nights and a radio show over the weekend. No Commercial station could afford that. Other than that she has to slot into the O'Rourke slot when he is on holidays. You can look across the broadcaster and this is replicated, part time presenters earning good salary's for part time hours.

Elmo

Bass Reeves wrote: »

As well as presenters you have researchers and program managers all on money above the industry norm in Ireland. This is replicated accross the company.

This seems to me the only reason why 2FM is funded the way it is, yet 2FM culled all their old DJs in favour of new ones, who should be cheaper to employ.

Shefwedfan

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

I see their new "star" Doireann Garrihy is god daughter of Ian Dempsey, and sister of another RTE actress Aoibheann Garrihy. Good aul RTE keeping it in the family once again. Is there an other public service broadcaster in the world that is so guilty of nepotism?

According to RTÉ they hired her because of her social media presence.....she has 20k twitter followers

How is that a social media following? It’s another job for the family

Fan of Netflix

Shefwedfan wrote: »

According to RTÉ they hired her because of her social media presence.....she has 20k twitter followers

How is that a social media following? It’s another job for the family

It's pathetic. 20K followers? Sure Georgia Salpa has 236,000 twitter followers and hasn't tweeted in 3 years! Sure why not give her own chat show :pac: