Aer Lingus Cadetship - 2018

Mahony0509

I've seen a few people state that IAG are not interested in the Cadetship anymore. It's not running this year (as far as I know), I'm wondering about the future. Does anyone here think that it'll be back? I'd be 100% interested if it did come back.

lintdrummer

Mahony0509 wrote: »

I've seen a few people state that IAG are not interested in the Cadetship anymore. It's not running this year (as far as I know), I'm wondering about the future. Does anyone here think that it'll be back? I'd be 100% interested if it did come back.

I'm quite confident we will see it again. Unsure whether it will be fully funded as before though. It's a big cost outlay to run it which is probably why the management have been reluctant to go ahead with it. Those in the airline who understand the huge benefits of running a cadet scheme are working hard to find a model that will appeal to the accountants without deterring potential applicants.

Stovepipe

it's good for at least three more years.

Bsal

Aer Lingus future pilot programme is open for applications

https://www.aerlingus.com/careers/careers-in-the-air/future-pilot-programme/#/tab-0-about-the-programme

John_Mc

moloner4 wrote: »

It says this on the application. Is experience needed?

In order to apply for this vacancy, you must be able to supply the required answers to the following questions:

Do you hold an ATPL or CPL (Licence)?

No not required, might even work against you. If you have an ATPL you should be applying for direct entry I'd imagine?

nerobert

It also says you must be able to state wether you are colour blind. How would you know if you were or not? I've looked at them tests online and I can see most of them alright but there's a few that catch me out

faoiarvok

nerobert wrote: »

It also says you must be able to state wether you are colour blind. How would you know if you were or not? I've looked at them tests online and I can see most of them alright but there's a few that catch me out

Free eye test in Specsavers.

Edit: Be aware they’re not experts in the requirements, I know someone who was distraught after they told her “you’ll never be a pilot” as an off-hand comment, but has since been reassured that her eyesight is acceptable. Colour blindness should be pretty apparent though.

John_Mc

nerobert wrote: »

It also says you must be able to state wether you are colour blind. How would you know if you were or not? I've looked at them tests online and I can see most of them alright but there's a few that catch me out

I did a class 2 medical with eye test for PPL training before and it involved pretty much what this online test does except in physical form.

nerobert

John_Mc wrote: »

I did a class 2 medical with eye test for PPL training before and it involved pretty much what this online test does except in physical form.

Done the test. Says I'm a mild proton. Hopefully this doesn't rule me out.

faoiarvok

nerobert wrote: »

Done the test. Says I'm a mild proton. Hopefully this doesn't rule me out.

Go do a real in-person test, don't trust a test on a website selling glasses to improve colour vision, viewed on a screen whose colours/brightness/contrast could be off.

VW 1

Have applied anyway, anyone know the intake numbers?

roundymac

I took that test just now, says I too have a mild proton, sounds like it's a scam, wants you to sign up for more tests. I would not rely on it.

MarkY91

I wanted to apply but I really need a godlod leaving cert. 2 higher level subject's etc. Or a degree.

I have neither there goes that far fetched dream.

irishkopite 2011

Does anybody know how strict they are with the educational requirements, I would like to apply but only did one higher level. I intent to email them tomorrow ask.

MarkY91

irishkopite 2011 wrote: »

Does anybody know how strict they are with the educational requirements, I would like to apply but only did one higher level. I intent to email them tomorrow ask.

Please let me know on their reply.

rudders

irishkopite 2011 wrote: »

Does anybody know how strict they are with the educational requirements, I would like to apply but only did one higher level. I intent to email them tomorrow ask.

Very strick, you will be asked to provide evidence you meet the requirements at interview.

John_Mc

irishkopite 2011 wrote: »

Does anybody know how strict they are with the educational requirements, I would like to apply but only did one higher level. I intent to email them tomorrow ask.

They're going to have thousands of applicants. They will definitely be 100% strict on any requirements

1123heavy

faoiarvok wrote: »

Free eye test in Specsavers.

Edit: Be aware they’re not experts in the requirements, I know someone who was distraught after they told her “you’ll never be a pilot” as an off-hand comment, but has since been reassured that her eyesight is acceptable. Colour blindness should be pretty apparent though.

It is not a free test. 15eu for the privilege 2 years ago don't know what it is now.

martinsvi

roundymac wrote: »

I took that test just now, says I too have a mild proton, sounds like it's a scam, wants you to sign up for more tests. I would not rely on it.

I took it just now, says my color vision is normal, however it was a tough test, your typical ishihara test book that they have in the AME centers is a lot clearer

MaserGreat

Hi All,

Just wondering what the experience level is of people who are going for the cadet-ship. I'm feeling very disheartened about my chances. But if you're not in you cant win, as they say!

I have a good leaving cert (all honours) and an level 8 university degree. I've worked within the Aer Lingus organisation for 2 years now, but lots of hearsay that already working with them puts you at a disadvantage! My professional background is more management based, very little aviation experience outside of a brief stint as cabin crew and a few flying lessons. No engineering or mathematics based experience.

I'm wondering what sort of experience they're looking out for, maybe someone who has gone through the process can shed some light so I can perhaps better tailor my CV for selection.

ohlordy

MaserGreat wrote: »

Hi All,

Just wondering what the experience level is of people who are going for the cadet-ship. I'm feeling very disheartened about my chances. But if you're not in you cant win, as they say!

I have a good leaving cert (all honours) and an level 8 university degree. I've worked within the Aer Lingus organisation for 2 years now, but lots of hearsay that already working with them puts you at a disadvantage! My professional background is more management based, very little aviation experience outside of a brief stint as cabin crew and a few flying lessons. No engineering or mathematics based experience.

I'm wondering what sort of experience they're looking out for, maybe someone who has gone through the process can shed some light so I can perhaps better tailor my CV for selection.

I got to last 24 or so in 2016.
I did nothing to spruce up my CV.
I had the educational necessities, no work experience in the industry (loads of work in other industries)

I believe the online tests that every applicant was asked to complete as first stage reduced the numbers hugely, you will either be able to do well in these or you won't, your prior experience or knowledge won't help.

If you get through these I found the process was largely personality based, if you seemed likeable and confident at every stage you did well, again having little or nothing to do with prior knowledge or experience.

Obviously, being able to discuss your reasons for wanting to be a pilot was necessary. And having some level of knowledge of the aviation industry in general and Aer Lingus in particular. But there was only approx 150 people left in the competition by the time any of this needed to be demonstrated.

Tenger

MaserGreat wrote: »

............I've worked within the Aer Lingus organisation for 2 years now, but lots of hearsay that already working with them puts you at a disadvantage! My professional background is more management based, very little aviation experience outside of a brief stint as cabin crew and a few flying lessons.......

In the past EI were very loathe to hire cadets or direct entry internally. There was a culture of “stay in your box”.
I can’t say with certainty but I would be skeptical of that old chestnut. Personally I know of 2 ex Cabin crew and 2 ex engineering staff who have become flight crew over the last 5 years.

Kuyashi

Hi all,

As a mature student I would have completed my LC 12+ years ago.
I meet the LC educational requirements except for the math component. However, since then I've completed 2 Level 6 Diplomas( both with Math and Physics components), and I am now in the middle of a Level 8 degree in Computer science degree( heavy in Maths with some physics).

On the assumption of doing well on the aptitude test, do you think there would be any room for maneuvering considering my education since LC to date?

Thanks in advance.

ohlordy

moloner4 wrote: »

Would the online test be Aer Lingus own test or similar to E-Cut online assessment tests?

I know nothing about e-cut, I didn't practise any tests

There was an opportunity to practise each online test before taking the test

Stovepipe

One thing EI does like is repeat appliers; at least four engineers, one flight ops and at least two cabin crew that I personally know of have got in, in very recent years. All of them have tried more than once to get in....the entry process is designed to filter out people as early as possible, so that it doesn't really matter if 10,000 apply for it. That number will be chopped dramatically as each stage advances, so that in short order, it will be down to a few hundred and that will be down to double figures by the close of the second interview phase. Every applicant should read the entry conditions CLOSELY. If necessary, go over it with your careers guidance teacher (or similar) a few times until you know if you have what is needed. If you get called for interview, be certain that you have all of the relevant documentation. You will be chopped if you don't. Don't risk losing a slot because you failed to get a copy of a birth cert or a driving license. Also, when you are asked technical questions about aircraft and flying, they are not pitched at genius level. They just want you to show that you understand some of the basics and have made the effort, as well as demonstrating a genuine interest and an ability to learn.

Tristan100

Can anyone provide information on the aptitude test?
Is it a typical aptitude test or one specific to pilots?

Roar83

Any idea what flight school it will be at? Could it be a change from FTE?

Mahony0509

Roar83 wrote: »

Any idea what flight school it will be at? Could it be a change from FTE?

Don't think it will change.

fc210

Does anyone know if there is a maximum age restriction for the current pilot cadet programme.

Just over 40yrs. Qualified electrician. Have approx 10 hrs ppl training but it was done back in 2003. Then put on hold to buy house, get married, have kids.

Currently back studying for ppl groundscool exams to get them out of way before I resume the hands on training.

Also if anyone would have any idea of the starting salary as first officer with EI following training under the fully sponsored cadet programme. Also would like to know more sbout the type of bond EI will hold you to.

Thanks.

Kuyashi

Has anyone who sent their initial application in - received the online exercises? If so, what do they entail?

ChikiChiki

How many places up for grabs and how many expected applicants? I've thrown my hat in the ring as I'm 30 years old and regardless of whether I get this or not the plan is to be flying commercially by 35 years of age and always has been. At the moment out in Oz working in Finance but I would give it all up and be back home in a heartbeat for this opportunity.

Best of luck to everyone applying.

Kuyashi

ChikiChiki wrote: »

How many places up for grabs and how many expected applicants? I've thrown my hat in the ring as I'm 30 years old and regardless of whether I get this or not the plan is to be flying commercially by 35 years of age and always has been. At the moment out in Oz working in Finance but I would give it all up and be back home in a heartbeat for this opportunity.

Best of luck to everyone applying.

Pretty similar circumstances myself, apqrt from being in Australia.

Judging on past years, I'd estimate between 10-12 places. FTE Jerez keeps class numbers small.
Expect in excess of 4,000 applications minimum.

Best of luck to you also !

p.s. the group assessment stage is in Dublin at the end of July

Smulle

Hi all was wondering if most are sending in a cover letter or just the CV, going from previous years I am assuming they are only looked at after the assessment stages?

airmech

What stage will the tests be sent out? Hardly a need for a cover letter.

gav4321

Applications closed on Sunday I believe. Any idea on when the emails will go out for the next stage?

SarahSTARRR

I logged in this morning to my aer lingus account and the status is currently 'Invite to pre selection online test'. I haven't received anything yet however, so I emailed the recruitment team and they advised the following:

Hi Sarah,

Details will be sent onto you in due course.

Rgds

Aer Lingus Recruitment Team

Kuyashi

SarahSTARRR wrote: »

I logged in this morning to my aer lingus account and the status is currently 'Invite to pre selection online test'. I haven't received anything yet however, so I emailed the recruitment team and they advised the following:

Hi Sarah,

Details will be sent onto you in due course.

Rgds

Aer Lingus Recruitment Team

Thanks for the update! When did you submit your application?

** EDIT: Just checked my email, my invitation to online assessments has just arrived.

gav4321

Anyone any idea on salary ranges for EI pilots. Hard to gather based on what's on the internet. It's not the glamorous job it used to be

kona

gav4321 wrote: »

Anyone any idea on salary ranges for EI pilots. Hard to gather based on what's on the internet. It's not the glamorous job it used to be

Salary put me off alright, heard you qualify for social welfare assistance.

joseandrade

Hey Folks,

Anybody trying this year ?
Does anybody know how many cadets they’re selecting this year?
Does anybody have hints for the personality test and video interview ?

Thanks

Srdelaney

online tests have been sent out, best of luck!

magnavox

kona wrote: »

Salary put me off alright, heard you qualify for social welfare assistance.

Mind informing us what the salary scale is/might be? Honest question. Cheers.

SarahSTARRR

Anyone else getting a message saying that the online test has already been completed when you try and open it?

NH2013

Salary Details:

http://www.pilotjobsnetwork.com/jobs/Aer_Lingus_(ROI_Contract)

jobinphilip

I have created this post to help each other out for people that applied for Aerlingus future pilot training programme 2018.
I have got 2 online assessment to do from Aerlingus. 1st one about personality questionnaire and 2nd about the role and short video interview. Has to be done on 20th May before 12pm.
How do I prepare for this? Any sources to help?

smurfjed

FO base €60,720.41

Whats wrong with that?

kona

magnavox wrote: »

Mind informing us what the salary scale is/might be? Honest question. Cheers.

Starting is mid 40s.

Retiring will be well into 100ks

Thats just your salary, theres add ons too.

Batman18

They sent out an email with a new link for the online assessment.

Haven't done the assessments yet but does anyone know what the "short interview video" is?

Thanks!

breadmond

SarahSTARRR wrote: »

Anyone else getting a message saying that the online test has already been completed when you try and open it?

Yep, sent an email to see what the story is but nothing back yet

Lapmo_Dancer

kona wrote: »

Starting is mid 40s.

Retiring will be well into 100ks

Thats just your salary, theres add ons too.

From the link above, they are just basic salary figures. 30K gross per year can be added on for sector pay and performance pay. Those pension figures are amazing. What is the retirement age?

colbarr

Youve probably seen it by now, but there's already a forum for the current competition. https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057862984