Irish who are more famous/acclaimed abroad than here.

Ipso

corks finest wrote: »

Bobby Sands,revered and remembered elsewhere, current snowflakes haven't an iota

In wonderful lands of freedom like Cuba and Iran.

manbitesdog

Permabear wrote: »

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Can you elaborate on this? The Norris point seems like a bit of stretch. Government minister Séan McBride was reportedly a fan of Ulysses (at least in private, 'official' Ireland still being largely hostile to Joyce), and wrote to Joyce's widow profusely praising her late husband in the 1950s in a bid to land the manuscript of Finnegans Wake for the National Library. Artist John Ryan opened the Joyce Museum in Martello Tower back in 1962, and I understand the novel was openly on sale in Ireland by that time. Ryan is also credited - along with Flann O'Brien and a few others - with holding Dublin's first Bloomsday celebration in the 1950s. While that was reportedly a modest and abortive affair (they wound up in the pub), Bloomsday as we know it today - people in costumes and whatnot - has been taking place in Dublin since at least the early 1980s. My sense is the rehabilitation of Joyce was a gradual but ineluctable process, rather than a one-man campaign.

the 1967 film of Ulysses, banned by the Irish censor, was only cleared for release in 2000. It still holds the record for the longest ban (33 years) imposed on any film by the Irish state.

That film ran into trouble all over the place, landing an X rating in the UK prior to cuts, and seeing walkouts at Cannes. As for the length of its ban, it was only resubmitted once before 2000, in the early 70s. Though still enthusiastic banners by the 1990s (Bad Lieutenant and the VHS release of Reservoir Dogs come to mind) it's hard to imagine Strick's film failing to gain a classification had it been resubmitted sooner. Never seen it myself, but apparently it features foul language, a nude man's backside and, most shockingly, early footage of the abominable Liberty Hall.

manbitesdog

Dots1982 wrote: »

It’s possible van Morrison’s genius is more recognized in the US than here, but that might also be because he was in his pomp in the 60s and 70s so just a time gap thing.

Van Morrison is underrated in general. He should be classed alongside Lennon & McCartney, Dylan and Hendrix as someone who elevated pop music from mass entertainment to art form. His prickly personality and crap Celtic mystical nonsense must've cost him.

bodhrandude

manbitesdog wrote: »

Van Morrison is underrated in general. He should be classed alongside Lennon & McCartney, Dylan and Hendrix as someone who elevated pop music from mass entertainment to art form. His prickly personality and crap Celtic mystical nonsense must've cost him.

Especially when he did this stuff with Them, he had an incredible voice.

ohnonotgmail

manbitesdog wrote: »

Can you elaborate on this? The Norris point seems like a bit of stretch. Government minister Séan McBride was reportedly a fan of Ulysses (at least in private, 'official' still being largely hostile to Joyce), and wrote to Joyce's widow profusely praising her late husband in the 1950s in a bid to land the manuscript of Finnegans Wake for the National Library. Artist John Ryan opened the Joyce Museum in Martello Tower back in 1962, and I understand the novel was openly on sale in by that time. Ryan is also credited - along with Flann O'Brien and a few others - with holding Dublin's first Bloomsday celebration in the 1950s. While that was reportedly a modest and abortive affair (they wound up in the pub), Bloomsday as we know it today - people in costumes and whatnot - has been taking place in Dublin since at least the early 1980s. My sense is the rehabilitation of Joyce was a gradual but ineluctable process, rather than a one-man campaign.

Not as much of a stretch as you think. Norris has been doing bloomsday stuff since the 1960s on sandymount strand. The whole thing of people dressing up is his invention. When i started in college in the late 80's he pretty much was bloomsday and had been for a number of years. He was also responsible for saving the building that is now the James Joyce center on North Great Georges St.

Rothko

somefeen wrote: »

Most Irish people under 35 won't know he was, but he did play Rockpalast in Germany, which wasn't exactly a show for small up and coming acts. ( as far as I can tell anyway by the list of previous performers)

I disagree with that. I think nearly anyone that's picked up a guitar here has heard of him.

the purple tin

Kieran Kelly who was one of the most prolific serial killers in English history. He moved to London from Laois in the 50's and is suspected of killing over 30 people there right up to the early 80's. There is also evidence that he murdered somebody in his hometown of Rathdowney. It's mind boggling how he got away with it for so long.
https://www.irishpost.com/news/new-documentary-reveals-the-real-story-behind-londons-irish-serial-killer-107008

the purple tin

Val Doonican was a living legend in britain in the 70's and 80's.

Water John

Rory has a Plaza in Cork named after him. Cork always knew his greatness.
There are some very good interesting names, on here.

facehugger99

corks finest wrote: »

Bobby Sands,revered and remembered elsewhere, current snowflakes haven't an iota

Don’t worry, nobody abroad has an iota who he is either.

Ash.J.Williams

My bloody valentine

Ash.J.Williams

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Rory Gallagher was more appeciated on the continent than he was at home .

Was a name in Europe. Even has a street named after him in Paris.

When rush were starting Aerosmith and Gallagher were the big dogs in the US

trashcan

bodhrandude wrote: »

Especially when he did this stuff with Them, he had an incredible voice.

Incredible voice ? I'll have to beg to differ there. I think he is a lousy singer. Has only two good songs of note too, Brown Eyed Girl and Moondance. Apart from that, hugely over-rated in my view.

PowerToWait

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

My bloody valentine

From Cavan no less.

Irish Guitarist

'Famous' might be the wrong word for this sicko but I remember reading this story about a 'paedophile rights campaigner' from Carlow in print at the time it happened.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/paedophile-rights-campaigner-jailed-for-child-porn-distribution-290121.html

I don't think it was that exact article I read but it was in some free paper. The article made it sound like he was some crazed individual with maybe one or two weirdo supporters. I discovered years later (I think because of a thread here) that he had actually been a big deal in British politics in the 1970s and his disturbing views were taken somewhat seriously.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26352378

Are Am Eye

facehugger99 wrote: »

Don’t worry, nobody abroad has an iota who he is either.

We will never forget you, Jimmy Sands.

Snotty

Wogan was despised by a large amount of the Irish who emigrated to the UK in the 70s and 80s. I know this from working in Irish pubs in the UK in my youth and whenever he came on the TV the conversation would start on how he sold out to be British.
I kind of agreed when the only time he was heard of in public in Ireland was when the Queen visited.


David Feherty, Golfer from Co. Down, was probably best described as an average European Tour Pro, but since retiring from the sport now commentates and has his own golf shows on CBS and now NBC, definitely more famous in the US than Ireland.

facehugger99

Snotty wrote: »

Wogan was despised by a large amount of the Irish who emigrated to the UK in the 70s and 80s. I know this from working in Irish pubs in the UK in my youth and whenever he came on the TV the conversation would start on how he sold out to be British.
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Begrudgery.

Oops69

Snotty wrote: »

Wogan was despised by a large amount of the Irish who emigrated to the UK in the 70s and 80s. I know this from working in Irish pubs in the UK in my youth and whenever he came on the TV the conversation would start on how he sold out to be British.
I kind of agreed when the only time he was heard of in public in Ireland was when the Queen visited.

maybe he didn't particularly like Irish people , may be not , Whatever he felt privately is his opinion and he's entitled to it but I don't think that came across publicly.

Water John

Anyone who ever met Terry Wogan would tell you, he was very proud of his heritage. People have very different views as to what being true to your roots is.
It isn't all about, wrap the green flag around me.

Tuco88

facehugger99 wrote: »

Don’t worry, nobody abroad has an iota who he is either.

Street named after him in Paris and eh Iran.

Tuco88

Two US civil war men.

Thomas Francis Meagher. (Should know him)

Michael Corcoran Union General from silgo.

AndyBoBandy

Admiral William Brown from Foxford, Co. Mayo

Or Guillermo Brown as he’s known in Argentina, as he founded the Argentinian Navy, gaining the respect and admiration of the Argentine people for winning many great naval battles.

He is a national hero of Argentina with many schools, colleges, streets, buildings, squares, an Antarctic base, 4 football clubs, and of course a Naval destroyer (as well as a class of destroyer) all named after him.

Any time Ireland play Argentina in the rugby now, they play for The Admiral Brown Cup

Beechwoodspark

trashcan wrote: »

Incredible voice ? I'll have to beg to differ there. I think he is a lousy singer. Has only two good songs of note too, Brown Eyed Girl and Moondance. Apart from that, hugely over-rated in my view.

Listen to “it’s too late to stop now”, critically acclaimed as one of the best ever live albums, to hear Van in his pomp. An incredible soul/blues singer.

razorblunt

Snotty wrote: »

Wogan was despised by a large amount of the Irish who emigrated to the UK in the 70s and 80s. I know this from working in Irish pubs in the UK in my youth and whenever he came on the TV the conversation would start on how he sold out to be British.
I kind of agreed when the only time he was heard of in public in Ireland was when the Queen visited.


David Feherty, Golfer from Co. Down, was probably best described as an average European Tour Pro, but since retiring from the sport now commentates and has his own golf shows on CBS and now NBC, definitely more famous in the US than Ireland.

David Feherty is a great shout. He's done incredibly well for himself over there.

chupacabra

There’s a lad from Tralee, Rea Garvey. He’s fairly big in Germany with his band Reamonn. Owned a small recording studio near Ballyheigue that had a bunch of German platinum records of his on the walls

weldoninhio

The Duke of Wellington. Born in Dublin.

razorblunt

weldoninhio wrote: »

The Duke of Wellington. Born in Dublin.

"Being born in a stable does not make one a horse".



As his quote (proven to never have been said, goes).

siblers

Timmy "Downtown" McCarthy. Superb commentator, love listening to him anytime the Olympics are on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0qBsQ34jSc

jimmymack

I worked with a guy from Ghana a couple of years ago who was a massive fan of Enya, don't think I've heard any of her stuff played on the radio in Ireland bar a very rare spin of Orinoco Flow and I rarely hear anyone mention her otherwise. It's kind of funny that some of our musicians can become massively popular abroad and yet get very little airplay at home!