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Severe Winter Weather, Snow/Ice - Sun 25th Feb (Onwards) ** READ MOD NOTE POST #1 **

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 695 ✭✭✭beefburrito


    Mother Russia

    How are you sleeping

    Middle winter cold winds blow

    From the tree's the snowflakes drifting

    Swirling around like ghosts in the snow

    MOTHER RUSSIA

    IRON MAIDEN


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,614 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Temperatures for Wednesday, Wednesday night, Thursday

    102-580UK.GIF?24-6

    120-580UK.GIF?24-6

    126-580UK.GIF?24-6

    Temperatures not rising pretty much anywhere above freezing from Tuesday evening until at least Saturday morning.

    Don't forget the windchill ;)

    120-290UK.GIF?24-6


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭dacogawa


    Not a fan of apps and sites, much prefer the charts but loving the netweather forecast for Dublin port next Friday though, they must have seen the ECM, right at sea level

    442700.JPG


  • Registered Users Posts: 356 ✭✭Strangegravy


    I assume Shannon will get a nice plastering aswell so?

    Just very cold at the start. Looking at the current charts, Shannon will only get snow if we see the low pressure that's showing up on the charts at the moment start to push up towards the south coast bringing precipitation with it. Most of the snow at the start of this event will becoming from Streamers on the Irish sea, hitting the east coast and a bit inland, most of which unfortunately don't normally make it this far West.

    But if that low pressure hits that sweet spot of not coming up too high and not staying too low, then yes, Shannon should see some white stuff.

    For your own sanity, just expect it to be very cold and keep an eye on here as the cold spell progresses; it'll be mentioned if that snowy scenario for our area and surrounds (I'm East Limerick) becomes more and more likely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭mel.b


    North Clare's going to get pasted.

    Typical the week i go away. Although i shouldn’t complain as i’m heading to Sewdish Lapland so there is plenty of snow there already!


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    Even if areas do not get snow, could there be a red warning for low temps or is that pushing it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Oops69


    mel.b wrote: »
    Typical the week i go away. Although i shouldn’t complain as i’m heading to Sewdish Lapland so there is plenty of snow there already!

    but you'll miss the panic here , It'll be all stoical swedes over there .


  • Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭Shadylou


    We never get snow in cork, I'll believe when I see it!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,164 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Shadylou wrote: »
    We never get snow in cork, I'll believe when I see it!!

    Depends where in Cork you are. The city is marginal a lot of the time but never get a better chance than this week.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭jasper100


    km79 wrote: »
    That wouldn’t be TOO bad s regards frozen pipes

    I’d imagine they are averaged and in certain sheltered pockets and valleys etc. it could be colder.

    -6 is the number that starts to cause severe damage I believe.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,746 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Oops69 wrote: »
    but you'll miss the panic here , It'll be all stoical swedes over there .

    I had a Finnish friend in Finland post about the weather and I had not mentioned weather. He was complaining about how cold it was. What really surprised is he posted a technical chart and said how the upper 850 charts were showing -27C over his location.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,949 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Even if areas do not get snow, could there be a red warning for low temps or is that pushing it?

    Yes, very possibly. Sustained low overnight temps, daytime highs of -2 or less, the red level for cold alone is likely to be exceeded inland.

    For the eastern side of the Country, snowfall red warnings kick in for predicted falls >8cms (with situation likely to worsen) so it will be no surprise to see that triggered.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭Vxlks


    Is a red level for snow really likely by wednesday? Or is wednesday still slightly in the FI range? I get snow is hard to predict, just wondering if "snow for wednesday" is basically official for Dublin lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,411 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    Just very cold at the start. Looking at the current charts, Shannon will only get snow if we see the low pressure that's showing up on the charts at the moment start to push up towards the south coast bringing precipitation with it. Most of the snow at the start of this event will becoming from Streamers on the Irish sea, hitting the east coast and a bit inland, most of which unfortunately don't normally make it this far West.

    But if that low pressure hits that sweet spot of not coming up too high and not staying too low, then yes, Shannon should see some white stuff.

    For your own sanity, just expect it to be very cold and keep an eye on here as the cold spell progresses; it'll be mentioned if that snowy scenario for our area and surrounds (I'm East Limerick) becomes more and more likely.

    With the way I'm working next week I won't see much of it anyway but I'll enjoy looking at it in the airport if it does snow. Just worrying about the wife and kids getting to work and school.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,869 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    RobertKK wrote: »
    I had a Finnish friend in Finland post about the weather and I had not mentioned weather. He was complaining about how cold it was. What really surprised is he posted a technical chart and said how the upper 850 charts were showing -27C over his location.

    He must be in Lapland. My friend lives in Espoo (near Helisinki). The lowest she has seen is -13. But it is an unusually cold spring for them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,949 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Vxlks wrote: »
    Is a red level for snow really likely by wednesday? Or is wednesday still slightly in the FI range? I get snow is hard to predict, just wondering if "snow for wednesday" is basically official for Dublin lol

    Very likely snow in some form Wednesday in Dublin. Red level, hard to say, even the Met will be tracking snow streamers on a nowcast basis. Dont make too many outdoor plans either way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Vxlks wrote: »
    Is a red level for snow really likely by wednesday? Or is wednesday still slightly in the FI range? I get snow is hard to predict, just wondering if "snow for wednesday" is basically official for Dublin lol

    The conditions look perfect and the models are suggesting it.

    And anything that falls on wednesday will likely be landing on Tueday's snow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭Vxlks


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Very likely snow in some form Wednesday in Dublin. Red level, hard to say, even the Met will be tracking snow streamers on a nowcast basis. Dont make too many outdoor plans either way.

    Thanks haha, my only outdoor plan is to video the town and my area in snow, whilst also sledding with my friend


  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭Vxlks




  • Registered Users Posts: 18,144 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Discodog wrote: »
    He must be in Lapland. My friend lives in Espoo (near Helisinki). The lowest she has seen is -13. But it is an unusually cold spring for them.

    850 hPa temperatures are about 1.5km up in the atmosphere, add around 10c onto that for daytime temps.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,614 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    No need to adjust the forecast in the OP today anyway. Word for word exactly the same.

    I did adjust the windchill to as low as -15c though, most likely in the southwest rebel counties.


  • Registered Users Posts: 698 ✭✭✭bazlers


    Below was MT Craniums predictions of probability from yesterday’s charts.

    “I don't have a clear sense of how much snow potential exists, but these are the ranges by probability:

    no snow at all other than a few places with 1-3 cm __ 10%

    widespread 5-10 cm, a few local 15 cm ___________ 20%

    widespread 10-20 cm, a few local 30 cm __________ 35%

    widespread 15-30 cm, a few local 40 cm __________ 25%

    widespread 20-40 cm, local 50-60 cm ____________ 10%

    If one of those juicy lows from around Portugal makes a loop around north-central Biscay then look at the lower portion of that table, if it's just non-stop easterly winds and cold air, might be near the middle, if the flow gets all disrupted into erratic troughs and lows, would have to look at it case by case and the whole spread comes into play.

    The same menu applies to Britain except that I would drop the top category out altogether and add its 10% to the next two down.

    By the way, we have not talked much about Northern Ireland and I know we get a few readers living there, this could be very heavy snow in Armagh and Down if there are intervals of east-southeast winds, and otherwise in all of Ulster with northeast winds. And with any clear spells, the western counties including Donegal could see some exceptionally low overnight readings.”


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,614 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    850 hPa temperatures are about 1.5km up in the atmosphere, add around 10c onto that for daytime temps.


    This is not always the case. The height at which that temperature applies will be falling through the week as the heights decrease.

    So even though these temperatures may rise slightly toward the end of the week there is a compensation effect.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 DaleB


    Ah lads the excitement is startin to set in now, before i go buyin heaps of tinned food and things i can cook in tinfoil in the fire, whats the likely hood of Waterford getting a glimpse? Is it still lookin good or will we have to wait later in the week?


  • Registered Users Posts: 698 ✭✭✭bazlers


    Kermit,
    Would you going by latest guidance agree with MTs probability?


  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭Vxlks


    tbh probably not till halfway through the snow storm itself lmao


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,356 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Donegal gets deep snow most winters from the north or west. Much more reliable than the Beast. Time to spread out the fun a little. If fun it is eventually....

    But does it really? I mean where people actually live, not up in the mountains.

    I live in North Donegal, have done since 2000.
    I was moving house in 2010, moving further north in fact. We got the keys to the house but had to delay moving for a couple of weeks due to that terrible freeze with the real cold temperatures around Dec2010/Jan 2011.

    I also have to cross over a mountain of 500ft every morning on my commute. It is renowned in the local area for having its own weather, and is often white when 5 miles further on the road are clear.

    And I haven't missed one day at work due to bad weather since I moved, over 7yrs. Had a few dodgy days getting in, especially as I would often be the 1st car on the roads at 6:15am, but always got through it OK.

    So I often think people assume Donegal gets worse weather than it does.

    I'd say more wet and windy than cold and icy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,746 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Discodog wrote: »
    He must be in Lapland. My friend lives in Espoo (near Helisinki). The lowest she has seen is -13. But it is an unusually cold spring for them.

    Southern Finland. The -27C is at 1500 metres.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,614 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    bazlers wrote: »
    Kermit,
    Would you going by latest guidance agree with MTs probability?

    Seems reasonable to me.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭sparrowcar


    Just reading the weather thread in the farming forum..one poster made the comment below 5 days ago. Part of me wants to reply with a smug comment but actually I just hope they all have enough time now to prepare their farms/animals for what's coming.


    "Lads if there was any danger of that in sight met Eir would be issuing status red warnings. If it -1 there issuing warnings.

    A lot of attention paid to air chair weathermen"


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