Israel attacks Syria

Hande hoche!

Now the Syrian Kurds have shot down a Turkish chopper.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey-helicopte/turkish-helicopter-shot-down-by-kurdish-militia-in-syrias-afrin-erdogan-idUSKBN1FU0M3

Cheerful Spring

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Now the Syrian Kurds have shot down a Turkish chopper.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey-helicopte/turkish-helicopter-shot-down-by-kurdish-militia-in-syrias-afrin-erdogan-idUSKBN1FU0M3

This is terrible the Kurds and Turks can't sort out their differences, but this conflict is not really a threat to global peace. A war involving Iran and Isreal is dangerous as it potentially can drag in world powers.

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

You don't see Iran and Syria sending fighter jets into Isreal to attack targets.

There is a simple reason why ,

They haven't got the aircraft or weapons to fly into Israeli airspace to mount an attack ,
They also know that Israel would wipe out both Assads and Irans airforces in a counter strike

Gatling

I noticed that we got no mention of the US strikes against pro Assad militias the other day that tried to attack American backed force's , between 100 and 500 pro assad forces were killed

Hande hoche!

Gatling wrote: »

I noticed that we got no mention of the US strikes against pro Assad militias the other day that tried to attack American backed force's , between 100 and 500 pro assad forces were killed

The Americans have bombed pro Assad forces for encroaching on their position in the past. An Israeli jet being shot down is a first for this century.

Cheerful Spring

Gatling wrote: »

There is a simple reason why ,

They haven't got the aircraft or weapons to fly into Israeli airspace to mount an attack ,
They also know that Israel would wipe out both Assads and Irans airforces in a counter strike

Yes, they do have, the refuelling of jets is the problem. Iran to Israel is a long distance to travel. If they stationed Iranian fighters in Syria this would reduce the flight time. Iran knows Israel would target those planes if they stationed them there.

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Yes, they do have, the refuelling of jets is the problem. Iran to Israel is a long distance to travel. If they stationed Iranian fighters in Syria this would reduce the flight time. Iran knows Israel would target those planes if they stationed them there.

A few 60's and 70's era f4 phantoms and f14 tomcats and a few mig 29s
Vs
The latest.variants f15s ,f16s, with the latest weapons systems and avionics and electronic warfare systems ,

Let's see who wins

Widdershins

Anything to do with Erdogan invading Syria? Or perhaps the ISIS terrorists? I'm not aware of the details of the issue the post is about, but there seems to be scant awareness of the invasion by Erdogan, on Boards

Hande hoche!

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Now the Syrian Kurds have shot down a Turkish chopper.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey-helicopte/turkish-helicopter-shot-down-by-kurdish-militia-in-syrias-afrin-erdogan-idUSKBN1FU0M3

Johnny Turk gets a bloody nose. I’ll not mourn that......

Cheerful Spring

Gatling wrote: »

A few 60's and 70's era f4 phantoms and f14 tomcats and a few mig 29s
Vs
The latest.variants f15s ,f16s, with the latest weapons systems and avionics and electronic warfare systems ,

Let's see who wins

They are domestically producing modern fighter aircraft now Qaher F-313 stealth fighter jet and F35 fighter jet. I never said they beat the Israeli fighters in an air battle. They do have aircraft that can hit Israel targets.

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

They are domestically producing modern fighter aircraft now Qaher F-313 stealth fighter jet and F35 fighter jet. I never said they beat the Israeli fighters in an air battle. They do have aircraft that can hit Israel targets.

They are producing stealth.

Hahahaha

Oh boy



Again they don't

tomofson

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

This is terrible the Kurds and Turks can't sort out their differences, but this conflict is not really a threat to global peace. A war involving Iran and Isreal is dangerous as it potentially can drag in world powers.

The reality is money would talk the loudest in a situation like this, which means everyone would back Israel.

Atoms for Peace

riffmongous wrote: »

Some sort of mad evangelical plot to bring about the Apocalypse

Make sense those jews did kill Jesus after all.

Odhinn

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Make sense those jews did kill Jesus after all.

I thought it was the protestants, meself.

riffmongous

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Make sense those jews did kill Jesus after all.

It's the most bizarre political alliance ever, evangelicals want all the Jews to be converted or be sent to hell, but are their biggest supporters until then

Barry Badrinath

Widdershins wrote: »

Anything to do with Erdogan invading Syria? Or perhaps the ISIS terrorists? I'm not aware of the details of the issue the post is about, but there seems to be scant awareness of the invasion by Erdogan, on Boards

The Astana agreement led Turkey, Iran and Russia to be guaranturs of various "de-escalation" zones throughout Syria.

Part of Turkeys responsibility was to establish and monitor the Idlib/Aleppo de-escalation zone by building watch towers and placing Turkish troops on the ground in northern Idlib.

This strategic move seems to have been a well thought out premptive ploy by Erdogan to ensure that the Kurds could not manoeuvre anywhere once Erdogan launched his offensive in the Afrin Canton. The Kurds are boxed in with nowhere to go.

These Israeli airstrikes have nothing to do with the situation up north. Israel has consistently warned all regional players that any Iranian or Shiite presence near Israeli territory will not be tolerated. Despite this, there is quite a large Iranian presence in southern Syria.

The Israeli airstrike in itself is not a big deal, the Syrian/Iranian response by accurately targeting and downing an Israeli jet is significant. Its the first time in 30 years that it has happened.

Israel regularly carries out airstirkes in Syria and Syria regularly uses anti aircraft weapons on the jets but they never usually hit them.

The question of escalation is the worry over the next 24hrs.

Del.Monte

Got love all the childish remarks in this thread - shure war is just a video game and we can all go back an re-spawn if things escalate. :rolleyes:

Samsgirl

Family member serving in Lebanon with the Defence Forces and this hapened very close to him. He saw the plane coming down and crashing.

Cheerful Spring

Gatling wrote: »

They are producing stealth.

Hahahaha

Oh boy



Again they don't

Stealth is not new technology it two decades old. Iran is building stealth aircraft how good the planes are operationally who can say?

Cheerful Spring

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Make sense those jews did kill Jesus after all.

It was Romans nailed him to the cross and it was his buddy Judas allegedly betrayed him. Jewish people did not kill him. Of course, who can say if he ever truly lived?

Obi_Wan_Kenobi

ArchXStanton wrote: »

Would you believe anything out of the Israelis..

Absolutely, a lot more than the dishonest lying MSM and the "Free Palestine" crowd.

smurgen

Gatling wrote: »

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

They are domestically producing modern fighter aircraft now Qaher F-313 stealth fighter jet and F35 fighter jet. I never said they beat the Israeli fighters in an air battle. They do have aircraft that can hit Israel targets.

They are producing stealth.

Hahahaha

Oh boy



Again they don't

Dude you're an armchair analyst,try not to sound too condescending,it's embarrassing.you are privy to no on the ground information.

Hande hoche!

Quite a few of the aircraft shown off by the Iranians are seemingly mock ups or tweaked airframes based on F5s. In fairness to their aeronautical industry they have kept F14s in air worthy conditions despite the embargoes. They also seem to have done a good job integrating Soviet, French and US designs in their system.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Obi_Wan_Kenobi wrote: »

Absolutely, a lot more than the dishonest lying MSM and the "Free Palestine" crowd.

Eh. The MSM is largely pro Israel. Left and right. Particularly in the US.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Gatling wrote: »

A few 60's and 70's era f4 phantoms and f14 tomcats and a few mig 29s
Vs
The latest.variants f15s ,f16s, with the latest weapons systems and avionics and electronic warfare systems ,

Let's see who wins

Jesus you really get excited by the US and Israel’s military power don’t you?

It’s a sad form of transferred nationalism.

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Stealth is not new technology it two decades old. Iran is building stealth aircraft how good the planes are operationally who can say?

They still don't have stealth aircraft or anything close to it ,

Stealth is a mixture of technology and materials used to build aircraft ,
Unfortunately Iran doesn't have any stealth capabilities,

Gatling

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Is that you Jimmy

ArchXStanton

Obi_Wan_Kenobi wrote: »

Absolutely, a lot more than the dishonest lying MSM and the "Free Palestine" crowd.

Hows the weather in Tel Aviv?

Cheerful Spring

Gatling wrote: »

They still don't have stealth aircraft or anything close to it ,

Stealth is a mixture of technology and materials used to build aircraft ,
Unfortunately Iran doesn't have any stealth capabilities,

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-16098562 Your information is out of date. Iran has stealth drones and released videos showing them flying around.

Cheerful Spring

Here is an Iranian Stealth drone flying around in 2014.