Fairytale of New York?

Poor Uncle Tom

sightband wrote: »

Thing that I don’t get is the use of the word ****** when she is referring to her partner or ex partner. How can she be calling him a homosexual?

It was widely used as a derogatory term for anyone who you thought did you wrong, very similar to calling someone a knacker now.... not everyone did it but it was common.

Icemancometh

Yusuf Embarrassed Rodeo wrote: »

It's funny how people always go after "Fairytale of New York" when Dire Straits' Grammy-winning "Money for Nothing" contains the word faggot not once, but three times.

I haven't heard that song in the radio in years, without the second verse being omitted entirely.

sightband

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

It was widely used as a derogatory term for anyone who you thought did you wrong, very similar to calling someone a knacker now.... not everyone did it but it was common.

was it? where? I grew up in the 70's (in a sh*tehole of an area) and the song was written in 80's. I have never heard it used as anything other than a homophobic insult. I have also googled the sh*te out of the word and anything other than it being a very homophobic insult and directly related to this.

a knacker and tinker, i agree but calling someone a f*ggot for me has only had one meaning.

Steve F

I have to say this......
FONY is overrated and overplayed

IMHO it's not even a good Christmas song. BTW is there an NYPD Choir?

Greg Lake's "I believe in Father Christmas" Now that's what I call a proper Christmas song!

"The peal of a bell,that Christmas tree smell,eyes full of tinsel and fire"
and
"I believe in Father Christmas,I looked to the skies with excited eyes.I woke with a yawn at the first light of dawn,saw him and blew his disguise"
Far superior and not an Arse or f*ggot in sight

whisky_galore

sightband wrote: »

Thing that I don’t get is the use of the word ****** when she is referring to her partner or ex partner. How can she be calling him a homosexual?

Accusing him of not being interested in her anymore, he's more fond of the drink. Brewers droop perhaps, who knows or cares it just rhymes with maggot.

nthclare

sightband wrote: »

was it? where? I grew up in the 70's (in a sh*tehole of an area) and the song was written in 80's. I have never heard it used as anything other than a homophobic insult. I have also googled the sh*te out of the word and anything other than it being a very homophobic insult and directly related to this.

a knacker and tinker, i agree but calling someone a f*ggot for me has only had one meaning.

I remember my grandfather going out collecting faggets, I think they were small stick's for the fire or something.

tuxy

It was still spelt fagg0t and the meaning is a bundle of sticks.

Steve F

F*ggots are a meat dish also....

Laois_Man

I see US television is leaving out the rude bits too!

They're no craic!!

Saoirse Ronan BTW, nice job - reasonably decent singer!

But Fallon does a mean Shane!

fryup

Saoirse pain in the arse Ronan

jeeze that all we need

FTA69

fryup wrote: »

Saoirse pain in the arse Ronan

jeeze that all we need

Funnily enough I’d a load of pints with her five years ago and she’s actually sound out.

As for FONY, I can see why some stations would bleep out the word - they do the same for “n*gger” or “b*tch” or any other sort of word that would be considered a slur or a swear word.

That having been said, as McGowan himself pointed out, the person is a character in a song and that’s how they spoke. There’s literally nothing more to it.

People need to log off and calm down if they think is an important societal issue.

limnam

Steve F wrote: »

IMHO it's not even a good Christmas song. BTW is there an NYPD Choir?

A "christmas" song. A subject based on an overweight bearded old man flying around the globe in a night delivering presents to the worlds good children


and you're concerned there's no NYPD choir.

nthclare

Stick's and stones might break my bone's but names will never hurt me....

Unless you're a snowflake or something.....

sligojoek

Steve F wrote: »

I have to say this......
FONY is overrated and overplayed

IMHO it's not even a good Christmas song. BTW is there an NYPD Choir?

Greg Lake's "I believe in Father Christmas" Now that's what I call a proper Christmas song!

"The peal of a bell,that Christmas tree smell,eyes full of tinsel and fire"
and
"I believe in Father Christmas,I looked to the skies with excited eyes.I woke with a yawn at the first light of dawn,saw him and blew his disguise"
Far superior and not an Arse or f*ggot in sight

No. But there is a thing called poetic licence.

Steve F

sligojoek wrote: »

No. But there is a thing called poetic licence.

Steve F

limnam wrote: »

A "christmas" song. A subject based on an overweight bearded old man flying around the globe in a night delivering presents to the worlds good children


and you're concerned there's no NYPD choir.

Wait a second!! What are you trying to say??? Surely you can't mean????
:eek:

xi5yvm0owc1s2b

Steve F wrote: »

BTW is there an NYPD Choir?

There is not, but there is an NYPD pipe & drums band.

Steve F

Yusuf Embarrassed Rodeo wrote: »

There is not, but there is an NYPD pipe & drums band.

Try making that fit the tune

super_furry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daAG5JfNNFQ

I don't know what everyone's complaining about anyway. If you listen to it closely, it clearly says ‘you’re cheap and you’re haggard’ rather than ‘you cheap lousy ******’. I can’t believe you’ve all got yourself into such a state over an obvious mishearing.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Mincer was another one we'd hear in the midlands back in the day.

I don't think I've ever heard that used outside of Ireland.

The Irish are a fierce race of people for inventing insults.

pleas advice

/MisheardLyrics

sightband

super_furry wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daAG5JfNNFQ

I don't know what everyone's complaining about anyway. If you listen to it closely, it clearly says ‘you’re cheap and you’re haggard’ rather than ‘you cheap lousy ******’. I can’t believe you’ve all got yourself into such a state over an obvious mishearing.

that's like a pissed up karaoke version

tipptom

Brains ******s mmmm
Nooo Welsh meatballs has just being censored

super_furry

sightband wrote: »

that's like a pissed up karaoke version

Eh slow your roll there Larry. That's from Sir Ronan of Keating, a national treasure and the man who birthed the profound and era-defining "Life Is a Rollercoaster" unto the world.

limnam

Steve F wrote: »

Wait a second!! What are you trying to say??? Surely you can't mean????
:eek:

no choir? :pac::pac::pac:

limnam

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Mincer was another one we'd hear in the midlands back in the day.

I don't think I've ever heard that used outside of Ireland.

The Irish are a fierce race of people for inventing insults.

Easy enough to get it into a xmas hit, surprised it's not been used.