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Discovery - Timeline, continuity and other canonical issues [** SPOILERS **]

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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    Edit: don't think Spock can feel ashamed or stretch the truth... he was a Vulcan after all.

    Spock was perfectly adept at omissions and exaggerations.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,141 ✭✭✭Yakuza


    Goodshape wrote: »
    Spock was perfectly adept at omissions and exaggerations.

    "Going by the book....hours would seem like days"... :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Yakuza wrote: »
    "Going by the book....hours would seem like days"... :)

    going by the book


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,922 ✭✭✭suffering golfer


    Because of the whole mirror universe thing they just had in Discovery, I went back and watched The Tholian Web episode aND found this nuggett... Chevoz asked spock about was there ever any mutiny on a starship before.... spock said "absolutely no record of such an occurrence".

    What about your sister then Spock?? Did she not count?

    Oh the irony...

    Damn you starfleet... record expunged... therefore no mutiny.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,849 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    main take away if true is corporate pressure to win back more fans

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Doodah7




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    silverharp wrote: »
    main take away if true is corporate pressure to win back more fans

    The key words here being "if true"; the number of times the narrator said the words "...rumour has it", or "...allegedly," makes me question how much of that is just speculative bullsh*t. It's not a wild theory to suspect the CBS online platform isn't exactly kicking down doors, but that video doesn't make any effort to qualify or quote sources about the CBS-Netflix discussion. Just comes off as typical YouTube blather.

    As for the rest, it's clear as day just watching season 1 that rewrites and retooling were going on as the season progressed; it's not like the ructions within the writing team weren't well publicised prior to launch, and the speed with which plots and characters were lashed into a conclusion was telling.

    My own speculation, for what it's worth, is that the Enterprise will feature as a one or two episode mini-arc, possibly to launch the larger narrative for the 2nd season; some new Big Bad that Enterprise discovered, only to pass the torch to Discovery to investigate and solve while Pike heads off in the other direction. The Borg perhaps? *gets coat and scarpers* :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,849 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    I think its good that netflix wont bankroll it, make them focus and put their feet to the fire

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Watched the first episode last night. It's got potential.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 135 ✭✭moonlighting_1


    redlettermedia review of the first season is out.
    I agree with most of what they said.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    The biggest problem with the small tech issues has always been the march of real technology.

    It's always really difficult to predict how technology will develop and further to that, there have at times been physical limitations on what could be produced on screen.

    At a certain point you have to either break canon or end up with an absolute farce of a TV show that looks like this:

    7ea9c18e57e0d89b60a24da525a852a5.jpg

    When we're already at a stage where the communicators, computers, holograms, view screens and whatever else are at best decades rather than centuries in the future, and many elements have already been surpassed, it becomes sillier to omit them than stick to canon.
    It'd be like having a future series made in 1920 with mysterious wireless transmissions, and then making a sequel in 1950 where you try to pretend there's no such thing as radio.
    "This Star Trek universe is the same universe as ours, except it's in the future, although they haven't discovered forks, dual-ply toilet paper or creme bruleés."

    Consistency over time in something like Star Wars works a lot better in that regard because there's a level of technological stagnation and sort of techno-western junkyard engineering aesthetic that lends itself to fantastically advanced tech rubbing shoulders with incongruously analog and mechanical designs.

    Star Trek has always been a harder sci-fi with a setting in a utopian future of our universe.

    Sometimes canonicity is important but for other things you just have to ignore it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,736 ✭✭✭Evade


    Gbear wrote: »
    At a certain point you have to either break canon or end up with an absolute farce of a TV show that looks like this:

    7ea9c18e57e0d89b60a24da525a852a5.jpg
    The worst thing about this is this problem was solved until TNG's Relics had this bridge on the holodeck instead of one of the movie ones which they had easier access to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,325 ✭✭✭jmcc


    This wasn't Star Trek. It was more like Snowflakes in Space who were more interested in exploring their feelings than exploring Space. Season 2 needs to have better writers if it is to recover ST fans and gain new ones.

    Regards...jmcc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Kuva


    It was ok, they should never have went near alternate universe stuff, all of that was crap, very nearly dropped it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,736 ✭✭✭Evade


    Just watching DS9's the Way of the Warrior and it really goes to show how lackluster the battle scenes in STD are.


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