Cork GAA Discussion Thread

zetecescort

Ladies football win 1-10 to 0-11

Itssoeasy

Kerry 0-15 Cork 1-10

Itssoeasy

Kerry 0-15 Cork 1-11 59 minutes gone.

ShamoBuc

A much better performance and much closer than a lot of folk thought it would be.

Kerry 0-18 v Cork 1-12

The White Feather

Second half went as expected really. We still don't have the squad depth to get over the line against Kerry. We literally ran out of steam.

In saying that the Ref in particular was very poor giving Kerry a good few frees that were just collisions. One where Clifford ran into a Cork defender and somehow got a free was the pick of them. You could actually argue he was the difference as we only lost by 3. He gave every 50-50 to Kerry. The free count was 17 to 9 in Kerrys favour

You would have to say we kept it within 6 points as I hoped so that was a good thing. It felt like that game will bring us on further as we know whats needed. Just a bit more squad depth of quality and we are nearly there.

All in all, not too bad and at least we gave them a good game and had a go. Encouraging signs at least.

Straight Talker

Good effort in fairness. Today was another reminder though that we need to get back up to division one next year.

Hopefully we'll do well in the all Ireland group stages now.

Seadin

These moral victories are no good lads. Fcuk that. How many times have we done this in the past v Kerry we can get so close but yet so far. Look at it for example Cork had a top team from 1989-92 and yet a poor Kerry team of 1991 and 1992 beat us. No excuses we aren't good enough and still continue to be the bridesmaids v Kerry.

ShamoBuc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122043971#Comment_122043971

The very vast majority of counties in Ireland prove to be beneath Kerry ffs.

Seadin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122044003#Comment_122044003

That's why we don't win, because some people are happy in Cork to be within 3 points of Kerry. Cork have plenty of clubs and plenty of players more so than other counties. We should be beating Kerry more regularly with our player pool. The moral victories attitude needs to go, it's useless and Cork football will never progress if we don't ask the questions why we came up short against Kerry last two years.

ShamoBuc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122044489#Comment_122044489

We came up short because Kerry are better - plain and simple. You come across as a person who thinks Cork have a divine right to beat Kerry because we have more clubs and players. Historically, that has proven to have nothing to with it, but you clearly can't see that.

Kilkenny have around a dozen Senior hurling clubs - Cork should hammer the shite out of them as per your reckoning.

The White Feather

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122044489#Comment_122044489

Sorry but what are you talking about? You act as if someone isn't doing something they should be doing, all the time. Like someone didn't tell the lads to win the match. What questions need to be asked? We got hammered before and now we are competitive. The next step is to get over the line. Its about incremental steps to get there not a magic bullet.

No doubt you have the post ready for the hurlers when they get beaten too. This wailing as if someone isn't doing something is pathetic. You remind me of a guy I used to know, who would tell me I was useless all the time and then when I won something, was telling people that he always believed in me! There is one of these fellas everywhere, first to say things are crap and then first to claim credit as if they did something.

I actually said this to myself after the game. When will Seadin post his tantrum? Its about as regular as clockwork. Same old whinging as if people are happy to lose and you are the only one upset by it. You brought up teams from 1989 ffs Thats a lifetime ago. It is about the here and now.

Anyway I am looking forward to the hurling tomorrow as watching the football is nowhere near as good!

windy shepard henderson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122044489#Comment_122044489

you cant just click your fingers and go from mid table division 2 to beating kerry , even the 2010 era team couldnt win in Killarney , and its the best part of 30 years since ye won up there , id say ye have only won up there 7 or 8 times in yer history , in other word it takes a team to beat them on their home patch a really serious team , today was a really good effort and should be seen as a huge positive

Widdensushi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122044489#Comment_122044489

Sure if it was just about population areas of Dublin would be beating the rest of the counties...lack of hurling in Kerry helps to focus on football but it's alot more complex,, Kerry have a few exceptional players at the moment but that seems to be the norm, there's no simple answers,a big county creates problems, players from the west have to have a serious commitment to be involved ,the pool of players with higher abilities is narrowed by sport preference and location,funds, infrastructure etc.the list goes on.

Straight Talker

We were destroyed in Killarney three years ago ffs. We pushed Kerry all the way both last year and this year.

All Irelands aren't won at the click of your fingers. It takes many years of planning and gradual improvement and a bit of luck as well!

We don't have an entitlement to anything success has to be earned at the end of the day.

This team is making great progress under John Cleary. Bring on the all Ireland group stages now.

The hurlers game against Waterford could be a banana skin for us if the heads aren't right. I'm expecting a tough game from Waterford but hopefully we'll have too much firepower for them.

Seadin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122044574#Comment_122044574

It's a mental block too Shamo, they can't get over the line because it's the green and gold mentality. They certainly were good enough for large stages today and then they throw it away in the last 10 mins of the game when it REALLY matters. I look at Kerry's 1991 team that beat Corks best team ever and that Kerry team were bang average back then but they turned up and beat Cork on the day.

I'm trying to say it without you getting defensive is we have to stop these moral victories talk and start beating Kerry especially if they can stay with them for 60-65 mins.

If we can stay that long with them, then why can't we find what's needed to win? That's more important than being competitive.

Seadin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122044600#Comment_122044600

ok if you are happy for Cork to be competitive and still lose to Kerry each time EVERY YEAR, I rest my case. If that's what Cork GAA fans are happy to accept fair enough, we have lowered our standards. And as for the hurlers, I couldn't care less anymore, they play well great, if they are poor and disappointing so be it. 2005 is ages ago too for your knowledge. That's rich saying I'm whinging and going on tantrums, you are actually one of the biggest whingers on here I must say and you can't see any negatives regarding Cork GAA. A typical Cork "yes" man who is oblivious to the issues regarding Cork GAA teams.

Seadin

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Seadin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122044686#Comment_122044686

Last year it was seen as a positive too against Kerry and then they get beaten out the door by Derry. It's no good. Terrible division 2 league performance finishing 4th. No proper ambitions of trying to get out and up to division 1. Losing to Louth and Cavan on the way who are no where near Kerry's standard.

Seadin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122044719#Comment_122044719

I agree with you but beating Kerry and winning a Munster title might be a good start for this team.

As for the hurlers Im not expecting any miracles so will just watch and support them and hope for the best. Waterford will be difficult tomorrow to beat no doubt.

windy shepard henderson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122044746#Comment_122044746

, in my opinion cork need to make the last 8 in whatever group they get and regardless who they get , they have the players to be competitive but it will take time

donegal were shocking last year and beat one of the best teams in the country tonight give it time , to be fair the loss to clare was corks worst result last year as it means that they are not even seeded in munster anymore , all them factors have to change first really before cork can be cork again , i am sure that's what you really mean in your posts

Seadin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122044756#Comment_122044756

Getting the right people involved too is whats needed. McGuinness with Donegal is a leader and a winner with a very strong psychology background, who instils confidence into his players. We haven't had anyone like that in Cork ever I would say bar Billy Morgan. If we did we would have won more. I do think if Cork can turn this around they need to be getting up to division 1 as soon as possible.

windy shepard henderson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122044765#Comment_122044765

i do think its easier then cork are making it too to at least be back in division 1 , i would still have ye ahead of monaghan roscommon and the current galway team to start with , however 2 things are standing in the way ,1, scoring forwards that can play the modern game in terms of attacking and defending , there are a number of very good forwards in cork club football but a number of them struggle with having to track back the field and back up again , i was ultra impressed with daniel dineen from kilnamartyra when my club played them last november in the munster club , but it wasn't until the all ireland final against the armagh team that you saw thad dano never left the 21 yard line , luke connolly , the same james masters for nemo in the past also , you need to find scoring forwards that can do both

2 , the pressure of the cork jersey ,

the current cork hurling team could have at least 2 all irelands won but for lack of luck , in 2013 clare got a score 2 minutes beyond the actual added time to force a replay , and two semi final losses in the next 7 years by a point or two to eventual winners have hampered what would be normally be seen as a golden era of cork hurling

before the first game started in 13 , a cork supporter said to me, we need this more then ye do , 8 years is too long for cork to wait for an all ireland ,if this team wins today we could win 2 or 3 more before the end of the decade

he was right , this has been a fine cork team over the last ten years but just unlucky not to have won an all ireland , but the longer it goes on the more pressure is put on cork teams

the footballers are still under the same bracket thanks to jbm and teddy mccarthy ect…

Seadin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122044820#Comment_122044820

I agree Cork don't produce enough top class forwards. I look at Kerry and no matter the circumstances they always produce outstanding forwards in any decade. To me that goes down to coaching at a young age and any players that have potential are coached properly there and it always shows.

With regards the hurling, In 2013 we could have stolen that All Ireland off yourselves (first game) but to be honest Clare were the better team on the two days and deserved the win. As for 2017 and 2018, cahalane sending off in 2017 didnt help but like I said before Cork too slow to make changes and paid the price. 2018 hurts the most. Having a 6 point lead against Limerick with ,9 mins to go and to fall apart like that definitely brought Cork hurling back a few years. If we had got to the final that year there was no guarantee we beat Galway but you have a chance when you are there.

2021 wasn't a great team especially when they left Kilkenny bring the semi final game to extra time after having the game almost won. Limerick destroyed us in the final. It was hard to see a bright future with Cork hurling after that defeat. So 2024 will be no different we will go in with hope but I won't be surprised if they don't make headway this year either. Not being negative like a certain poster described me but realistic with our chances.

magic17

Ah lads, it's 2024 and we're starting Championship games with Harnedy, Horgan & Lehane. What is going on. Appalling stuff so far. Still time to turn it around.

namloc1980

Like being stuck in a time warp with Harnedy, Lehane and Horgan.

awaywithyou

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122046302#Comment_122046302

Who would you have on instead of them??

Straight Talker

A dire first half but hopefully we'll turn it around. If we lose this and we fail to get out of Munster, then we might need to drop some of the old guard.

Especially when we have a lot of all Ireland winners from u20 level to bring through. Hopefully we'll lift it in the second half though.

This was always going to be a dangerous game if any ounce of complaceny settled in.

Straight Talker

We've finally woken up it's all square now.

callaway92

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122046471#Comment_122046471

Waterford 2 ahead again

Straight Talker

About seventeen minutes left and Waterford are three points ahead.