Cork GAA Discussion Thread

The White Feather

2 sickening goals before half time. A penalty miss as well. Ref has given them a few soft frees so things very much against us.

Some of their tackles you wonder why they are not red cards. There was an elbow near half time that almost knocked out the Cork player. I don't think anything was given.

They have had a good few wides but I think our wides were worse. Horgan in particular has been unusually poor.

Still in this but now a mountain to climb with those 2 goals given away.

There are definitely more goals there for us and they have had a load of yellows. When we run at them things open up. We did a lot of good things but just faltered at vital moments.

We need to raise it again second half now

DellyBelly

That's the difference with the top hurling powerhouses.. They score in the championship minutes.. The likes of KK, Limerick and Tip do that. The lesser teams don't.. Like Cork

The White Feather

The White Feather wrote: »

They have had a good few wides but I think our wides were worse. Horgan in particular has been unusually poor.

Unfortunately Horgan has kept missing. We should be level or ahead really.

A lot of poor wides this half.

Still a lot of time left. They look to be tiring to me

ACitizenErased

That was absolutely terrible. Possibly Horgan's worst game in a Cork jersey.

Rosita

John Mullane seems to think Cork are brilliant.

MisterAnarchy

Limerick were there for the taking, thats as bad as they have played in a long time.
They should have been down to 14 men too, were filthy in the first half.

Yet again Cork couldnt kick on and the forwards faded away in the last 15 minutes, the same old failing.
Very disapointing result.

Straight Talker

Oh well a disappointing performance and result. Hoggie had a poor game, but he's been carrying this team on his back these last few years. Hopefully we'll improve in the qualifiers, but sadly it looks like our 16 year all Ireland drought from 1903-1919, will be equaled this year. We probably should have beaten Limerick, in that 2018 all Ireland semi final, but since then Limerick have gone from strength to strength, and we've gone way backwards. Until we can find hurlers that can compete in the physical exchanges, then our all Ireland drought will continue to extend into 2025 and beyond.

The White Feather

A big pity this game got away from us as I felt we were doing well.

Harnedy got that elbow that could and should have been red card and then he had to go off. We seemed to just wilt a bit when we had the chance. A lot of bad wides. Yes they had loads but ours were all easier that you would expect us to get.

Make no mistake we are not far off at all. We should have won this today. The goals gave them a buffer. One really should have been stopped. The one that was deflected in.

Connolly should have been on sooner. Horgan missed at least 5 points that he normally would get but he is so good that it happens some times. Next day he won't miss. He picked the worst day to miss though! They could and should have had at least one red card in the first half.

I think we still will have something to say in the Championship. No easy teams but I wouldn't be afraid either.

MisterAnarchy

The White Feather wrote: »

A big pity this game got away from us as I felt we were doing well.

Harnedy got that elbow that could and should have been red card and then he had to go off. We seemed to just wilt a bit when we had the chance. A lot of bad wides. Yes they had loads but ours were all easier that you would expect us to get.

Make no mistake we are not far off at all. We should have won this today. The goals gave them a buffer. One really should have been stopped. The one that was deflected in.

Seems to be a major issue in the last 15 minutes with Cork over the last few years.
They keep on wilting.
They are on top but seem to lose composure, plenty of ball going into the forwards but they dont seem to be able to capitalise.

Straight Talker

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Seems to be a major issue in the last 15 minutes with Cork over the last few years.
They keep on wilting.
They are on top but seem to lose composure, plenty of ball going into the forwards but they dont seem to be able to capitalise.

That all Ireland semi final against Limerick, Kilkenny in that quarter final in 2019, and Tipp last year in the qualifiers. We were in strong positions in all those games, but we still ended up losing

DellyBelly

The White Feather wrote: »

A big pity this game got away from us as I felt we were doing well.

Harnedy got that elbow that could and should have been red card and then he had to go off. We seemed to just wilt a bit when we had the chance. A lot of bad wides. Yes they had loads but ours were all easier that you would expect us to get.

Make no mistake we are not far off at all. We should have won this today. The goals gave them a buffer. One really should have been stopped. The one that was deflected in.

Connolly should have been on sooner. Horgan missed at least 5 points that he normally would get but he is so good that it happens some times. Next day he won't miss. He picked the worst day to miss though! They could and should have had at least one red card in the first half.

I think we still will have something to say in the Championship. No easy teams but I wouldn't be afraid either.

I like your optimism but this Cork team is spineless so won't have anything to say in this year's championship.

Rosita

[QUOTE=Straight Talker;117581777

but sadly it looks like our 16 year all Ireland drought from 1903-1919, will be equaled this year.[/QUOTE]

Not one for talking about droughts or statistics like this as the world moves on and nobody is entitled. But for the record the biggest 'drought' has already been equalled even if Cork won this year's All Ireland. 2005-2021 is 16 years. It will be exceeded if they don't.

If it's any consolation All Irelands have been won from worse situations than Cork are in right now.

MisterAnarchy

Straight Talker wrote: »

That all Ireland semi final against Limerick, Kilkenny in that quarter final in 2019, and Tipp last year in the qualifiers. We were in strong positions in all those games, but we still ended up losing

Yes, its a major flaw of the side.
The 2018 semi against Limerick, the ref rode us that day, he gave 2 phantom frees for over carrying in the last 7 minutes.
Other than that and a few key injuries Cork would have won.

JeffKenna

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Yes, its a major flaw of the side.
The 2018 semi against Limerick, the ref rode us that day, he gave 2 phantom frees for over carrying in the last 7 minutes.
Other than that and a few key injuries Cork would have won.

Throwing a limping Seamus Harnedy on again in that match was possibly the worst management decision I've seen in my life.

The_Kew_Tour

The worry is that Limerick were only in 2nd gear.

They could very well do double over us next week.

Cork hurling is going nowhere fast. It be short summer

munsterlegend

DellyBelly wrote: »

I like your optimism but this Cork team is spineless so won't have anything to say in this year's championship.

I wouldn’t say spineless. We have some very good players but are carrying a good few passengers. Hoggie was anonymous last night and given that we never stood a chance of winning.

Speakerboxx

ShamoBuc wrote: »

I much prefer a little optimism, mixed with realism, rather than pessimistic all the time.

So Shamo were you optimistic and realistic after Cork were beaten off the park yesterday?

Let's call a spade a spade here.

Speakerboxx

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

The worry is that Limerick were only in 2nd gear.

They could very well do double over us next week.

Cork hurling is going nowhere fast. It be short summer

Totally agree. The GAA in Cork is a shambles right now.

prishtinaboy99

Speakerboxx wrote: »

Totally agree. The GAA in Cork is a shambles right now.

GAA has been a shambles for a long time, things are improving at an organizationional level but will take years before it takes effect at senior level.

That being said still a fair few of Frank’s foot soldiers still about.

Regarding the current season, Kingston is tactically away with the fairies, despite our obvious weaknesses someone who would get the match ups and tactics spot on would at least make us competitive.


There were plenty of guys like Pat Ryan,Richie Kelleher, Condon from Imokilly etc who would have been a better choice than going back to Kingston that was a failure first time round.

Straight Talker

Speakerboxx wrote: »

So Shamo were you optimistic and realistic after Cork were beaten off the park yesterday?

Let's call a spade a spade here.

They weren't beaten off the park at all. There was a missed penalty, and at least one of Limericks goals were preventable. Cork hurling has been through barren periods before, and came out the other side. My father was in croke park in 1966 when we won Liam McCarthy for the first time since 1954. He's seen 11 hurling all Irelands and 3 football all Irelands. Compared to that i've only seen 3 hurling all Irelands and 1 football all Ireland.

But sure there's fans of a lot of other counties, who'd love to see their team win 4 all Irelands. We are a county with a great history, that's going through a barren period right now. But that's all part of the package when you support the mighty rebels. You take the good with the bad. A real supporter sticks by their county through the thick and the thin.;)

ShamoBuc

Our top scorer had an awful day at the office, including missing a pen that he would normally bury. It is very rare that it happens, but such is life.

I hear Limerick had plenty more gears to go through. To me, around the 55th minute, we were getting on top in general play but did not take advantage of it on the scoreboard. There was a 10 minute period then when Linerick looked tired and we were first to most balls. They got a second wind (or the 4 subs into the forward line got into it) in the last 5 plus injury time and pulled away by another 3 or 4 points.

There were some positives in the game for Cork, enough to build on for the next day. Hoggie will not be as bad surely and the opposition won't be nearly as good either.

Speakerboxx

Straight Talker wrote: »

They weren't beaten off the park at all. There was a missed penalty, and at least one of Limericks goals were preventable. Cork hurling has been through barren periods before, and came out the other side. My father was in croke park in 1966 when we won Liam McCarthy for the first time since 1954. He's seen 11 hurling all Irelands and 3 football all Irelands. Compared to that i've only seen 3 hurling all Irelands and 1 football all Ireland.

But sure there's fans of a lot of other counties, who'd love to see their team win 4 all Irelands. We are a county with a great history, that's going through a barren period right now. But that's all part of the package when you support the mighty rebels. You take the good with the bad. A real supporter sticks by their county through the thick and the thin.;)

Come on now enough of that nonsense. We are all rebel supporters but we are entitled to call out the team when they aren't playing up to the standard required to win.

thesultan

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Our top scorer had an awful day at the office, including missing a pen that he would normally bury. It is very rare that it happens, but such is life.

I hear Limerick had plenty more gears to go through. To me, around the 55th minute, we were getting on top in general play but did not take advantage of it on the scoreboard. There was a 10 minute period then when Linerick looked tired and we were first to most balls. They got a second wind (or the 4 subs into the forward line got into it) in the last 5 plus injury time and pulled away by another 3 or 4 points.

There were some positives in the game for Cork, enough to build on for the next day. Hoggie will not be as bad surely and the opposition won't be nearly as good either.

Cork supporters still quoting tradition as if that will win you All Irelands.
Limerick were poor and it was a poor game.. Cork could have won it but I still feel teams are trying to play Limerick style possession games when defenders firstly must stop their man from scoring..

Speakerboxx

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Our top scorer had an awful day at the office, including missing a pen that he would normally bury. It is very rare that it happens, but such is life.

I hear Limerick had plenty more gears to go through. To me, around the 55th minute, we were getting on top in general play but did not take advantage of it on the scoreboard. There was a 10 minute period then when Linerick looked tired and we were first to most balls. They got a second wind (or the 4 subs into the forward line got into it) in the last 5 plus injury time and pulled away by another 3 or 4 points.

There were some positives in the game for Cork, enough to build on for the next day. Hoggie will not be as bad surely and the opposition won't be nearly as good either.

If we played Limerick 5 times, are we capable of beating them at least once? Not from what I saw on Saturday.

There's Galway Clare Waterford and Wexford now in the qualifiers. None of them are easy matches. If we can't progress through those challengers well then we have no business progressing any further. Cork hurling is in a bad state still. Let's not fool ourselves otherwise. Until Cork close out a tight game against a good side and get on the right side of a result, then question marks will still remain about Cork. Lets be realistic here. Just saying.

ShamoBuc

thesultan wrote: »

Cork supporters still quoting tradition as if that will win you All Irelands.

Where exactly did I say that?

Speakerboxx

prishtinaboy99 wrote: »

GAA has been a shambles for a long time, things are improving at an organizationional level but will take years before it takes effect at senior level.

That being said still a fair few of Frank’s foot soldiers still about.

Regarding the current season, Kingston is tactically away with the fairies, despite our obvious weaknesses someone who would get the match ups and tactics spot on would at least make us competitive.


There were plenty of guys like Pat Ryan,Richie Kelleher, Condon from Imokilly etc who would have been a better choice than going back to Kingston that was a failure first time round.

To be honest I thought the reappointment of Kingston as manager was one of the worst decisions Cork GAA have made in hurling. He was there in 2016 and 2017 was tactically inept. How was that going to change 2 years later?

prishtinaboy99

Speakerboxx wrote: »

To be honest I thought the reappointment of Kingston as manager was one of the worst decisions Cork GAA have made in hurling. He was there in 2016 and 2017 was tactically inept. How was that going to change 2 years later?

I guess bringing DOG in as an advisor he doesn’t have much input really even though I thought he would have more influence. Maybe he’s there to analyze before taking over next season, that being said not sure his short passing game is conducive to today’s game,time will tell.

The last time he brought in that short passing game he had Greyhounds who could run all day and a blueprint from Newtonshandrum. As he is a good reader of the game I guess he can adapt his tactics to it but I would prefer to see someone like the aforementioned ones getting a go.

Pos087

I have been looking online and can’t find when the qualifier draw will be made. Does anyone know

ShamoBuc

Monday morning I think.

zetecescort

Audit report into the €176k found a few months ago


https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40331009.html

"One key finding of the committee was that the information handover from the retiring officers to the incoming officers was “insufficient and ineffective”