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Pro14 2017-18 season thread

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    #1682
    thomond2006
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    17-0 after 17 minutes to Scarlets.


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    #1683
    ScrubsfanChris
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    Cheetahs are hopeless today, 7 handling errors already.


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    #1684
    Bazzo
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    ScrubsfanChris wrote: »
    Cheetahs are hopeless today, 7 handling errors already.

    I'm not convinced they're more than a middling team anyway to be perfectly honest. Altitude and heat seems to do them a lot of favours at home.


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    #1685
    Bazzo
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    Ohhhh my that was quite the individual try from Steff Evans.


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    #1686
    Burkie1203
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    Bazzo wrote: »
    I'm not convinced they're more than a middling team anyway to be perfectly honest. Altitude and heat seems to do them a lot of favours at home.

    I think they are a bit better then that. But they have been in the go since early 2017 effectively. Losing a few of their better players after the game might set them back


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    #1687
    Squidgy Black
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    Not sure if the Scarlets are just playing really well and up for it, or Cheetahs are just useless.


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    #1688
    Buer
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    Squidgy Black wrote:
    Not sure if the Scarlets are just playing really well and up for it, or Cheetahs are just useless.
    I was only half joking yesterday about the Cheetahs players being ready to start life in the UK. About 10 of their 23 are leaving after this game and I reckon they've no interest in prolonging their season.

    Making the playoffs means they haven't shamed themselves. All they want is a break now.


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    #1689
    thomond2006
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    About to be 31-3. Pity to see a solid debut season end like this.


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    #1690
    ScrubsfanChris
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    Scarlets now taking a few starters off. Game is done and dusted. Thankfully there's a Top14 game on in a few minutes.


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    #1691
    Tigerandahalf
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    Isn't the Cheetahs coach Rory Duncan also leaving? Off to Worcester or someone like that.

    Disappointing performance given the conditions.


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    #1692
    thomond2006
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    Scarlets will break 60 here.


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    #1693
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Any idea what sort of money difference there will be for SA Super sides and the Pro14 sides?

    I'd imagine sponsors like Toyota must be delighted sponsoring the SA sides given the European and SA tv audience.

    On a side note Ospreys getting a good player in Scott Williams. I presume he is leaving as Parkes and Jon Davies have 12/13 sewn up.


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    #1694
    Utah_Saint
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    I do wonder if rugby is the most popular sport in Wales as is often claimed. Attendance today was very poor at Parc y empty, although that is the norm


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    #1695
    Buer
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    Utah_Saint wrote: »
    I do wonder if rugby is the most popular sport in Wales as is often claimed. Attendance today was very poor at Parc y empty, although that is the norm
    National sport. Nobody ever claims it's the most popular. Football is by far the most popular.

    I imagine cricket would have strong enough numbers too with the likes of Glamorgan.


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    #1696
    prawnsambo
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    Utah_Saint wrote: »
    I do wonder if rugby is the most popular sport in Wales as is often claimed. Attendance today was very poor at Parc y empty, although that is the norm
    There's still a great deal of resentment about the regions being set up in competition with the traditional clubs.


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    #1697
    c.p.w.g.w
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    Was at the Munster game yesterday, I was in shock at how low the attendance was. Guess no more than 7000. Quarter final of the league.


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    #1698
    bilston
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    razorblunt wrote: »
    Eod100 wrote: »
    Does that mean no Sky from next season? No Champions Cup there either. Guess they will still have Top14 and some internationals..

    No more Graeme Simmons, Stuart Barnes, Scott Quinnell, Will Greenwood, Mark Robson, Dewi Morris, Alan Quinlan.

    What a time to be alive!


    I, for one, welcome our new Eir Sport/Premier Sports overlords.

    Alex Payne and James Gemmell are good though. I wonder if either of them will move to Premier Sports.


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    #1699
    Zzippy
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    c.p.w.g.w wrote: »
    Was at the Munster game yesterday, I was in shock at how low the attendance was. Guess no more than 7000. Quarter final of the league.

    Think official attendance was around 10k but that includes season tickets, whether they were used or not. Not great looking alright for a playoff game. 7k or so at the Scarlets game too, but that is more like their usual home crowd.


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    #1700
    MJohnston
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    Two more SA teams by the season after next, and a 5th the season after that.

    Not sure how an odd number of teams would work?

    http://www.the42.ie/pro14-rugby-set-for-further-expansion-into-south-africa-3997301-May2018/?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true


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    #1701
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    MJohnston wrote: »
    Two more SA teams by the season after next, and a 5th the season after that.

    Not sure how an odd number of teams would work?

    http://www.the42.ie/pro14-rugby-set-for-further-expansion-into-south-africa-3997301-May2018/?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true

    Looks like the S Africans want out of Super Rugby.
    Natal Sharks joining from 2019 season.


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    #1702
    irishbucsfan
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    MJohnston wrote: »
    Two more SA teams by the season after next, and a 5th the season after that.

    Not sure how an odd number of teams would work?

    http://www.the42.ie/pro14-rugby-set-for-further-expansion-into-south-africa-3997301-May2018/?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true

    May not be an odd number of teams if it coincides with an American side joining in 2020/21 or someone leaving. I'd say it'd be either 16 or 18 sides.


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    #1703
    Tigerandahalf
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    May not be an odd number of teams if it coincides with an American side joining in 2020/21 or someone leaving. I'd say it'd be either 16 or 18 sides.

    6 SA sides make 18 teams, so 3 conferences potentially. Possible end to some derby games.

    Play 5 x 2 in your own conference = 10
    Play others once = 12
    Total 22 games


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    #1704
    irishbucsfan
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    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    6 SA sides make 18 teams, so 3 conferences potentially. Possible end to some derby games.

    Play 5 x 2 in your own conference = 10
    Play others once = 12
    Total 22 games

    There won't be an end to derby games, they'll just make the conferences geographical to avoid that.


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    #1705
    Cookiemunster
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    Zzippy wrote: »
    Think official attendance was around 10k but that includes season tickets, whether they were used or not. Not great looking alright for a playoff game. 7k or so at the Scarlets game too, but that is more like their usual home crowd.

    Season tickets didn't cover this game. Yesterday was probably the only accurate attendance figure of the season.


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    #1706
    MJohnston
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    It's a minor thing, but they'd probably want to rebrand from ProN to something that doesn't include a number, if they're changing so often. Not great for branding!


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    #1707
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    There won't be an end to derby games, they'll just make the conferences geographical to avoid that.

    That's possible I guess.
    6 SA teams
    4 Irish plus Italian plus Scot
    4 Welsh plus Italian plus Scot


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    #1708
    irishbucsfan
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    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    That's possible I guess.
    6 SA teams
    4 Irish plus Italian plus Scot
    4 Welsh plus Italian plus Scot

    Well no, they wouldn't separate the Scottish or Italian teams for the same reason.


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    #1709
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Well no, they wouldn't separate the Scottish or Italian teams for the same reason.

    They won't have a choice maybe. They're bringing very little to the competition anyway.
    How else?


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    #1710
    awec
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    I really hate these formats.

    Isn't this nonsense one of the biggest complains with Super Rugby?


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    #1711
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    They won't have a choice maybe. They're bringing very little to the competition anyway.
    How else?

    It would be massively hypocritical to put the Irish teams together in order to maintain derbies while simultaneously separating the Scottish and Italian teams, when all you have to do is not split them.


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