Is Boards.ie Extremely Right-Wing?

branie2

When I think of Mao, I always think of the Little Red Book

conorhal

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Myths by the right. Mao changed Changed China for the better. Poverty decreased and Chinese families could not feed themselves. Mao start providing free health care and education to the Chinese for the first time.

There is no evidence Mao slaughtered 50 million people. People died during times of famine 1958. And the right wing (America) blamed Mao for killing he's people.

You need to read more books than Mao's little red one.......

The_Valeyard

I believe this sums it up perfectly

Snake Plisken

Saruhashi wrote: »

Saw this on Twitter comparing Boards.ie to Stormfront.

*Takes a look at boards.ie to see if it's still stormfront-lite*
Ah, so they've just ditched the "lite"

https://twitter.com/CaseyExplosion/status/884753135893446656

Stormfront is basically an extreme right wing, white nationalist, white supremacist, neo Nazi website.

My feeling about Boards is that it is actually not Right Wing at all. In fact, many posters are strongly, and rightly, against any kind of Neo-Nazi or White Supermacist/Nationalist views.

Would anyone on here even admit to being in agreement with White Supremacy?

Where does this reputation come from?

Wow that twitter idiot is extremely left wing liberal Antifa twat! His views are biased!
As for boards it's pretty balanced although still think some areas are very lefty leaning if folks remember the debacle that was the politics Cafe early this year where two mods banned loads of folks leading to a proper investigation into the whole debacle leading to a more balanced politics Cafe 2.0

Your Face

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Myths by the right. Mao changed Changed China for the better. Poverty decreased and Chinese families could not feed themselves. Mao start providing free health care and education to the Chinese for the first time.

There is no evidence Mao slaughtered 50 million people. People died during times of faminei, that happened in 1958 ( lasted 3 years) And the right wing (America) blamed Mao for killing he's people.

Such an uneducated post.

Cheerful Spring

conorhal wrote: »

I'd pick neither, since I think it would be more boring if we all thought the same.

The Nazi's burned books, the Communists in China thought you needed only one, Mao's little red nook. Collectivism and groupthink is poison.

Mao cared about the average person. Of course right wingers of America ignore the problems they got. What America does not want to you to see is the millions and millions of people who can't feed themselves everyday. Social housing in America is just as bad as what you find in North Korea. What about the homeless crisis, gun crime, racial crime, drug crime? America for decades charged it's kids to go to school and they had debt up to their eyeballs for years? Doctors and Nurses would not even help you if you no insurance ( this is disgusting) America is only a nice place if you have money.

ligerdub

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

I'm left i would associate myself more with socialist and liberal people. People who are to the right are more extreme in their beliefs. If we had to choose between a Nazi Reich world and like China that is communist, i pick China all day. How boring would it be if we all looked the same?

I read that as a satirical post....at least I'm hoping it is. If it is it's excellent.

Cheerful Spring

Your Face wrote: »

Such an uneducated post.

Not uneducated.Those deaths occurred during the Great Leap forward. This was a plan by Mao to improve agricultural and industrial production. The plan was not perfect. There was a famine in 1958 and the right wingers blamed Mao for it. Mao said millions died because of bad weather and natural disasters.

There was no mass shootings of people, if you got other historical evidence, please do post it.

Ulysses Gaze

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Myths by the right. Mao changed Changed China for the better. Poverty decreased and Chinese families could not feed themselves. Mao start providing free health care and education to the Chinese for the first time.

There is no evidence Mao slaughtered 50 million people. People died during times of faminei, that happened in 1958 ( lasted 3 years) And the right wing (America) blamed Mao for killing he's people.

Yeah and the death camps in Europe where the Jews and other were killed is a myth of the Communist Left.

Sure they were just work camps and people died of an outbreak of Cholera.

FFS......:rolleyes:

Grayson

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Not uneducated.Those deaths occurred during the Great Leap forward. This was a plan by Mao to improve agricultural and industrial production. The plan was not perfect. There was a famine in 1958 and the right wingers blamed Mao for it. Mao said millions died because of bad weather and natural disasters.

There was no mass shootings of people, if you got other historical evidence, please do post it.

Your name is apt. You can even make millions dying sound cheerful.

Your Face

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Not uneducated.Those deaths occurred during the Great Leap forward. This was a plan by Mao to improve agricultural and industrial production. The plan was not perfect. There was a famine in 1958 and the right wingers blamed Mao for it. Mao said millions died because of bad weather and natural disasters.

There was no mass shootings of people, if you got other historical evidence, please do post it.

Yes, uneducated and ignorant.

Cheerful Spring

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Yeah and the death camps in Europe where the Jews and other were killed is a myth of the Communist Left.

Sure they were just work camps and people died of an outbreak of Cholera.

FFS......:rolleyes:

What point you trying to make here? The millions who died during Mao reign did so during a famine Mao did not imprison millions of he's own people and slaughter them. If you believe that nonsense you have to back this belief with evidence.

Nazi Jewish Holocust. I not sure anyone truly knows how many Jewish, Gypsies and prisoners of war soldiers died during the 5+ years of war. What we do know is the Nazis disliked the Jewish people.

I was not there, to say for sure, millions of Jews got gassed. What we know for sure is the Jewish people did suffer at the hands of Nazis soldiers and SS officers. The Jewish people had to leave their homes, their belongings and sometimes family and they ended up in a concentration camp. Death by disease, hunger, overrworked can only blame the Nazis for this.

Cheerful Spring

Grayson wrote: »

Your name is apt. You can even make millions dying sound cheerful.

I have commonsense, you right wingers are lacking this. Mao can control weather and natural disasters? There is nothing in the historical record that shows Mao deliberately set out to murder he's own people. Of course if you had evidence for this would be produced ages ago.

Il Fascista

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

I have commonsense, you right wingers are lacking this. Mao can control weather and natural disasters? There is nothing in the historical record that shows Mao deliberately set out to murder he's own people. Of course if you had evidence for this would be produced ages ago.

:pac:

Wibbs

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Mao did not imprison millions of he's own people and slaughter them.

"He's"? His. Personal bugbear of mine that mistake. When I hear or read it I think WTF? And assume the worst.

Nazi Jewish Holocust. I not sure anyone truly knows how many Jewish, Gypsies and prisoners of war soldiers died during the 5+ years of war. What we do know is the Nazis disliked the Jewish people.

I was not there, to say for sure, millions of Jews got gassed. What we know for sure is the Jewish people did suffer at the hands of Nazis soldiers and SS officers. The Jewish people had to leave their homes, their belongings and sometimes family and they ended up in a concentration camp. Death by disease, hunger, overrworked can only blame the Nazis for this.

"What we do know is the Nazis disliked the Jewish people". Really? You think? Jesus H Christ. They openly marked them and other "untermensch", subhumans as undesirable and to be "removed" from German territory. Openly. They also enacted laws to discern these "subhumans" from "Aryans" and how they would be dealt with. Marking them out was the first solution, then removing the protection of law from them, then transporting them from German lands, the final.. well we know what that was about. Again the records are there. No, they don't specify how they would be "disappeared", but they would be disappeared and disappeared they were, by various methods.

Forget the gassing, mass executions stuff, one only has to look at the train schedules. Being very efficient the Germans kept detailed records of "special trains". Now some were trains set aside for troop movements, some were even holiday trains for German workers, but there was another kind. Obviously different to all the others as they heading East, were one way for the passengers and came back empty. We can argue back and forth about how people were killed*, but we can't argue the numbers that vanished from the face of the earth. Another set of records were the financial. EG to move Jews from Greece the trains went through a couple of countries on the way to Poland and since the Euro didn't exist, again the Germans being fastidious noted the currency conversions along the way to pay for coal and rail transit.

I've known people in my life who lost entire swathes of their family. Yellowing photos from the 20's and 30's where most of the people in the pictures vanished between 1940-45. Gone. More, relatives of mine saw these camps and the horrors within just after liberation(one was at Belsen, the other the name ashamedly escapes).

Yeah so with the utmost respect, go away with you and your unresearched political revisionist ballsology.



*personally speaking and for me anyway, the "Hollywood" view of mass gassings is too dramatic and easy a meme. One that became a given. EG a few witnesses described gas chambers in Belsen and that has become "fact" in some quarters, yet there were none and that camp was about the most documented of all. Did gassings happen? Hell yes. Too many objective witnesses including German soldiers described it. However in other camps they were just left to rot/worked to death. Either way they were dead and that was their intended end.

freedominacup

The_Valeyard wrote: »

So if both sides are unhappy, your doing something right.

It's the only way to be sure you're getting it right.

ahnowbrowncow

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

I have commonsense, you right wingers are lacking this. Mao can control weather and natural disasters? There is nothing in the historical record that shows Mao deliberately set out to murder he's own people. Of course if you had evidence for this would be produced ages ago.

Woah, careful now, I'm not sure if Grayson will be able to get over the shock of being described as a right winger.

Grayson

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

Woah, careful now, I'm not sure if Grayson will be able to get over the shock of being described as a right winger.

I'm currently on a bus with a big smile on my face.

The_Valeyard

Grayson wrote: »

I'm currently on a bus with a big smile on my face.

Too easy for sexual innuendo....

Rumpy Pumpy

Mao is probably the worst human being that has ever lived. And that's quite the achievement. A psychopath and mass murderer.

RayM

You wouldn't find Hitler playing jungle music at three o'clock in the morning.

The_Valeyard

RayM wrote: »

You wouldn't find Hitler playing jungle music at three o'clock in the morning.

Probably Wagner though.

branie2

I've had my fun, and that's all that matters

Noel82

Look at the Politics forum and then question why everyone deserted to Politics.ie, it's a left wing echo chamber

ToddyDoody

After Hours has 25,850 threads with 'dole' in the title.

And it's all generally just people giving out about people on the dole.

That strikes me as quite right wing.

Personally I'd throw everyone off the dole and pump the savings into the army.

steddyeddy

It's certainly not Stormfront but it seems to contain multiple self described succesful people who spend an obscene amount of time worrying about people on the dole.

Permabear

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Ulysses Gaze

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

I have commonsense, you right wingers are lacking this. Mao can control weather and natural disasters? There is nothing in the historical record that shows Mao deliberately set out to murder he's own people. Of course if you had evidence for this would be produced ages ago.

Here's an article about your hero...by an Historian that had access to actual Communist Party documentation.

Let me guess, this is all Right Wing propaganda.....

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/maos-great-leap-forward-killed-45-million-in-four-years-2081630.html

Frank Dikötter, a Hong Kong-based historian, said he found that during the time that Mao was enforcing the Great Leap Forward in 1958, in an effort to catch up with the economy of the Western world, he was responsible for overseeing "one of the worst catastrophes the world has ever known".

Mr Dikötter, who has been studying Chinese rural history from 1958 to 1962, when the nation was facing a famine, compared the systematic torture, brutality, starvation and killing of Chinese peasants to the Second World War in its magnitude. At least 45 million people were worked, starved or beaten to death in China over these four years; the worldwide death toll of the Second World War was 55 million.

Mr Dikötter is the only author to have delved into the Chinese archives since they were reopened four years ago. He argued that this devastating period of history – which has until now remained hidden – has international resonance. "It ranks alongside the gulags and the Holocaust as one of the three greatest events of the 20th century.... It was like [the Cambodian communist dictator] Pol Pot's genocide multiplied 20 times over," he said.

Between 1958 and 1962, a war raged between the peasants and the state; it was a period when a third of all homes in China were destroyed to produce fertiliser and when the nation descended into famine and starvation, Mr Dikötter said.

His book, Mao's Great Famine; The Story of China's Most Devastating Catastrophe, reveals that while this is a part of history that has been "quite forgotten" in the official memory of the People's Republic of China, there was a "staggering degree of violence" that was, remarkably, carefully catalogued in Public Security Bureau reports, which featured among the provincial archives he studied. In them, he found that the members of the rural farming communities were seen by the Party merely as "digits", or a faceless workforce. For those who committed any acts of disobedience, however minor, the punishments were huge.

steddyeddy

There seems to be tendency towards anti-science in some of the more right wing posters too.

Nettle Soup

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Probably Wagner though.

It's "Vagner" Louis!