Is Boards.ie Extremely Right-Wing?

I would suspect anonymity means people can express more hardline views.

Take Facebook where everyone expresses pretty much the same right on opinions. You're more likely to see a "the homeless should be hosed off the streets" effort here.

tonycascarino

Noel82 wrote: »

Look at the Politics forum and then question why everyone deserted to Politics.ie, it's a left wing echo chamber

Boards is as left-wing as it comes. Say something that praises Trump or something anti-immigration for example and board members are around you like fleas on ****e.

Sleeper12

Obviously not everyone on Boards is far right however I've seen members making fun of of people queuing up for food last Christmas. I've seen out & out baiting on racism, "black people aren't as intelligent as white people". I've seen downright nasty comments about homeless people and every thread on travellers brings out the hillbillies and their nasty narrow minds.

Cheerful Spring

Wibbs wrote: »

"He's"? His. Personal bugbear of mine that mistake. When I hear or read it I think WTF? And assume the worst.

"What we do know is the Nazis disliked the Jewish people". Really? You think? Jesus H Christ. They openly marked them and other "untermensch", subhumans as undesirable and to be "removed" from German territory. Openly. They also enacted laws to discern these "subhumans" from "Aryans" and how they would be dealt with. Marking them out was the first solution, then removing the protection of law from them, then transporting them from German lands, the final.. well we know what that was about. Again the records are there. No, they don't specify how they would be "disappeared", but they would be disappeared and disappeared they were, by various methods.

Forget the gassing, mass executions stuff, one only has to look at the train schedules. Being very efficient the Germans kept detailed records of "special trains". Now some were trains set aside for troop movements, some were even holiday trains for German workers, but there was another kind. Obviously different to all the others as they heading East, were one way for the passengers and came back empty. We can argue back and forth about how people were killed*, but we can't argue the numbers that vanished from the face of the earth. Another set of records were the financial. EG to move Jews from Greece the trains went through a couple of countries on the way to Poland and since the Euro didn't exist, again the Germans being fastidious noted the currency conversions along the way to pay for coal and rail transit.

I've known people in my life who lost entire swathes of their family. Yellowing photos from the 20's and 30's where most of the people in the pictures vanished between 1940-45. Gone. More, relatives of mine saw these camps and the horrors within just after liberation(one was at Belsen, the other the name ashamedly escapes).

Yeah so with the utmost respect, go away with you and your unresearched political revisionist ballsology.



*personally speaking and for me anyway, the "Hollywood" view of mass gassings is too dramatic and easy a meme. One that became a given. EG a few witnesses described gas chambers in Belsen and that has become "fact" in some quarters, yet there were none and that camp was about the most documented of all. Did gassings happen? Hell yes. Too many objective witnesses including German soldiers described it. However in other camps they were just left to rot/worked to death. Either way they were dead and that was their intended end.

I did not need a lecture or a history lesson. Whereabouts in this thread did i dispute untermensch? Are you just posting this to support a case against me?

The Nazis used ordinary commercially build trains to transport the Jews to camps. There was nothing 'special' about the trains used by the Nazis. Over-dramatic nonsense.

People claim 6 million Jews died. We can argue though about the numbers as we have official population numbers for jews in Europe prior to WW2 and after the war finished. And we know Jews migrated to safer countries (about 2 million) and many more died due to natural causes, during war, and because of the war, and other natural reasons during this time period. The Jewish/Europe population was about 9 million prior to the war. Nazis could not have wiped out the entire Jewish population of 9 million, as there be no jews left to be found anywhere in Europe. Even the staunchest supporters of the holocust says there was about 4 million jews left in Europe after the war ended. Either way it don't matter a million deaths is too many and if it was organised mass murder they are evil scumbags.

Since you picked out Belsen and this video was taken when the camp got liberated in 1945.. If the Nazis starved people to death, daily.

My question would be: Why do these kids at the start of the video look fresh faced and healthy and are still wearing their normal clothes?

Normal clothes if we believe the history was taken away after they arrived at the camp? Some people, do look starved and others look healthy, it's curious. There is pictures of mass graves and this could be evidence of mass killing or just people dying of disease and hunger? But i never seen anyone address the videos that show healthy looking people at Belsen behind barbed wire?

Annasopra

ToddyDoody wrote: »

After Hours has 25,850 threads with 'dole' in the title.

No it doesn't.

Captain Obvious

You'd have to be extremely left wing to consider Boards even right of center. Sure there are right wing contributors and sometime the overall consensus on a matter might be right leaning but it's exactly the same for the left.

ToddyDoody

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

No it doesn't.

Apologies, that many threads where a poster makes a reference to the dole.

circadian

This calls for a poll.

steddyeddy

tonycascarino wrote: »

Boards is as left-wing as it comes. Say something that praises Trump or something anti-immigration for example and board members are around you like fleas on ****e.

In fairness I think that the reality is that posters make statements about Trump, immigration or welfare, are challenged to present facts they cry discrimination.

Jayop

I've had a look at the new Politics Cafe a few times and it's certainly got more of a right wing slant than ever before, whether that's by design from banning a lot of the bigger post count lefties or because a lot of them didn't bother to ask for access then I don't know.

Basically, when it comes to Irish politics it's very very right wing. Certainly not Nazi stuff or Stormfront, but a lot of the people who participate in political forums are poor hating FG fan club members. When it comes to European Immigration it's also incredibly right wing. Some of the stuff posted in immigration threads or in the threads in the aftermath of a terrorist attack is simply disgusting. But then, when it comes to American politics it's largely anti-Trump, although that one's an own goal. Then with issues like gay marriage and abortion I think there's a pretty balanced amount of people posting from both angles.

Cheerful Spring

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Here's an article about your hero...by an Historian that had access to actual Communist Party documentation.

Let me guess, this is all Right Wing propaganda.....

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/maos-great-leap-forward-killed-45-million-in-four-years-2081630.html

Dutch Historian, not Chinese. He's world view maybe already tainted?

Neither side disputes mass starvation happened between 1958-1961. The difference between the two sides is the causes behind it. Right wingers, and people who dislike Socialism and Communism, blame Mao.

Mao "Great Leap Forward" i will admit likely was one cause of the deaths, but we know China experienced bad weather and drought during those years, that lead to a famine and the cause of the majority of those deaths.. I not going to blame Mao for trying to improve the lives of poor people.

Arghus

It's amazing how people's perspectives differ wha?

Jayop said it well in an earlier post. Certain topics do get the righties all riled up - the dole, the terrorismisms, the foreigners, the foreigners on the dole, the refugee foreigners on the dole and doing the terror - and anything that has the word "feminism" in the thread title is bound to chock full of angry fellas scoffing and getting indignant at some woman, somewhere, for saying something about something that they wouldn't have even heard about in the first place, if it hadn't been for another similarly angry man bringing it to their attention - so that they can all luxuriate in their righteousness : Usually with cries of "people are just so senistive these days" - which will be typed without irony.

Cheerful Spring

Arghus wrote: »

It's amazing how people's perspectives differ wha?

Jayop said it well in an earlier post. Certain topics do get the righties all riled up - the dole, the terrorismisms, the foreigners, the foreigners on the dole, the refugee foreigners on the dole and doing the terror - and anything that has the word "feminism" in the thread title is bound to chock full of angry fellas scoffing and getting indignant at some woman, somewhere, for saying something about something that they wouldn't have even heard about if it hadn't been for another similarly angry man bringing it to their attention - so that they can all luxuriate in their righteousness.

Don't forget foreign affairs. Right wingers are more likely to believe everything they read in a history book is true and believe everything they are told by the government is real.

Arghus

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Don't forget foreign affairs. Right wingers are more likely to believe everything they read in a history book is true and believe everything they are told by the government is real.

Nah man. Credulity is an equal opportunities bias former on both sides of the political spectrum.

Autochange

I would say boards is defiantly more left wing. If you an express and opinion which is medium to strongly right sided then you are given a warning.
Isnt this site supposed to be about debate and differing opinions?

Jayop

Autochange wrote: »

I would say boards is defiantly more left wing. If you an express and opinion which is medium to strongly right sided then you are given a warning.
Isnt this site supposed to be about debate and differing opinions?

Really? I've participated in the politics forums for along time and I have never seen anyone carded for giving an opinion. Now if that opinion was racist or something then maybe, but I've even seen plenty of that getting let go in certain threads.

lazybones32

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Obviously not everyone on Boards is far right however I've seen members making fun of of people queuing up for food last Christmas. I've seen out & out baiting on racism, "black people aren't as intelligent as white people". I've seen downright nasty comments about homeless people and every thread on travellers brings out the hillbillies and their nasty narrow minds.

I've never seen anyone say "black people aren't as intelligent as white people" but i personally have written that white people on average score higher than black people on IQ tests. This is a fact. Google it.
There is a massive difference between what I wrote and the inference/faulty interpretation that people such as yourself have concluded from that fact.

So, that's one instance of your mental process leading you to a faulty conclusion.

Can't link but search "black-white test score gap".

RollieFingers

A poster once suggested that Muslims "should be locked up and force fed pork", so yeh I would say there are certainly some very right wing contributors to boards.

Autochange

RollieFingers wrote: »

A poster once suggested that Muslims "should be locked up and force fed pork", so yeh I would say there are certainly some very right wing contributors to boards.

So by your definition anyone who is right wing is a nasty racist while all left wingers are nice people?

Grayson

Autochange wrote: »

I would say boards is defiantly more left wing. If you an express and opinion which is medium to strongly right sided then you are given a warning.
Isnt this site supposed to be about debate and differing opinions?

Try saying all muslims aren't terrorists and tell me everyone is a lefty. Maybe it's just because if you say something right wing, and you have people argue with you, that you think everyone here is a lefty. Trust me, that's not the case. If you say anything left wing there will be just as many people criticizing you.

Jayop wrote: »

Really? I've participated in the politics forums for along time and I have never seen anyone carded for giving an opinion. Now if that opinion was racist or something then maybe, but I've even seen plenty of that getting let go in certain threads.

That's just it. It's only when the language crosses a line. Trust me, apparently I'm right wing

Grayson

Autochange wrote: »

So by your definition anyone who is right wing is a nasty racist while all left wingers are nice people?

If you read his post, he said "some"

super_furry

After Hours has been under the influx of a lot of brand new accounts who all seem to be already infinitely familiar with boards, despite their new accounts, and they all espouse the same far-right views.

Arghus

Autochange wrote: »

So by your definition anyone who is right wing is a nasty racist while all left wingers are nice people?

No. That's not what he said.

gizmo81

Not extremely, more Return of the Kings Lite.

Cheerful Spring

Arghus wrote: »

Nah man. Credulity is an equal opportunities bias former on both sides of the political spectrum.

True, but i think people on the right tend to believe more what they are told.

Autochange

You are correct. I should have read it properly.

Sleeper12

lazybones32 wrote:

I've never seen anyone say "black people aren't as intelligent as white people" but i personally have written that white people on average score higher than black people on IQ tests. This is a fact. Google it. There is a massive difference between what I wrote and the inference/faulty interpretation that people such as yourself have concluded from that fact.

This is the baiting I was talking about. Personally I'd call it an extreme right wing statement but that's just my opinion.
It's not an honest statistic. It's spat out to provoke a reaction. Do you know it's a fact that 100 percent of Irish people speak fluent Irish. What I don't mention is that this statistic is for the Arran Islands. You can prove almost anything you want with statistics. For your statement to be accurate you need to compare social class of black and white people. Will black people score lower than white people if everyone surveyed have grown up in the same trailer park? As the proportion of wealthy educated white people far exceeds that of black people you can't just compare one race against the other.

conorhal

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

True, but i think people on the right tend to believe more what they are told.

Says the 'Mao was a gentle soul', holocaust denier..... ahahahahaha ....

I find that those on the right tend to deal more in facts and less in emotion and propaganda.

Rumpy Pumpy

Wish the flaps on both wings would break away and find somewhere else to have their tedious arguments. Online neckbeard wars are the most boring thing one can read.

conorhal

Autochange wrote: »

I would say boards is defiantly more left wing. If you an express and opinion which is medium to strongly right sided then you are given a warning.
Isnt this site supposed to be about debate and differing opinions?

You must have missed the memo from Google, Youtube, facebook and Twitter. There is only right and wrongthink, which will be censored and 'corrected', debate is as dead as fact.