Clamped one minute after the grace period....

Dinarius

Parked in central Dublin today. Paid for 4 hours parking in total (by phone)

Parking expired at 14:25. Grace period is 10 minutes. (They told me this on the phone)

Ticket was time stamped 14:36.

You have to think they stood there and waited until the grace period expired.

Annoying.

D.

Nervous Wreck

Probably shoulda just gotten back to your car before the parking expired...

Also, fair play to them for giving a grace period.

Arghus

Harsh but fair.

rainbowtrout

They did. They waited 11 minutes.

Clamped after......


Meh

Ninthlife

Surely if you got back 1 minute after the expiry time the clampers would still be there considering it would take more than 1 minute to clamp and write ticket take photo etc

Mint Sauce

Dinarius wrote: »

Parked in central Dublin today. Paid for 4 hours parking in total (by phone)

Parking expired at 14:25. Grace period is 10 minutes. (They told me this on the phone)

Ticket was time stamped 14:36.

You have to think they stood there and waited until the grace period expired.

Annoying.

D.

I'd say thats exactly what they did.

Are Am Eye

Listen, even if Grace was having a bad day, she still has to adhere to the parking laws like everyone else.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

You were 11 minutes late! What do you want? A grace period on the grace period?

And the ticket was after 11 minutes over. How much later did you return to the car?

Pelvis

Dinarius wrote: »

Parked in central Dublin today. Paid for 4 hours parking in total (by phone)

Parking expired at 14:25. Grace period is 10 minutes. (They told me this on the phone)

Ticket was time stamped 14:36.

You have to think they stood there and waited until the grace period expired.

Annoying.

D.

And when did you actually get back to the car?

me_irl

Hey OP, is this thread going the way you thought it would?

DopeTech

Is the max stay not 3 hours?

Dinarius

Stefan Young Mortal wrote: »

You were 11 minutes late! What do you want? A grace period on the grace period?

And the ticket was after 11 minutes over. How much later did you return to the car?

Got to the car 14:39.

It took about 15 seconds to remove the clamp. Can't have taken that much longer to fix it.

Yes, the letter of the law, but waiting (which they surely did) is almost entrapment, isn't it?

D.

Dinarius

me_irl wrote: »

Hey OP, is this thread going the way you thought it would?

LOL!

D.

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly

Senseless waste of 12 euro or so for 4 hours parking knowing you were going to return 11 minutes late and pay an €80 release fee.

JaMarcusHustle

Dinarius wrote:

Yes, the letter of the law, but waiting (which they surely did) is almost entrapment, isn't it?

I don't think entrapment means what you think it means.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Dinarius wrote: »

Got to the car 14:39.

It took about 15 seconds to remove the clamp. Can't have taken that much longer to fix it.

Yes, the letter of the law, but waiting (which they surely did) is almost entrapment, isn't it?

D.

It's not remotely like entrapment. Had they done something to deliberately delay you (:rolleyes:) it would be entrapment.

They are perfectly entitled to wait at cars if the time is running out. It's your responsibility to return to your car in time, not 14 minutes later.

Are Am Eye

In fairness to the OP you'd have to wonder if he had of come back eleven minutes early then would the clampers have been there. To thank him. To congratulate him. Maybe award a prize or at least a refund for the unused time.

Oh no!

It's all one way traffic.
Take, take, take.
There's no give.

corner of hells

OP , ya just gotta play a different game next time you park in a metered area.
Try removing all four of your wheels putting in your boot or how about buying four clamps of your own and putting one on each wheel.

Nervous Wreck

Stefan Young Mortal wrote: »

It's not remotely like entrapment. Had they done something to deliberately delay you (:rolleyes:) it would be entrapment.

They are perfectly entitled to wait at cars if the time is running out. It's your responsibility to return to your car in time, not 14 minutes later.

Also, pretty sure entrapment doesn't exist in Irish law...

Are Am Eye wrote: »

In fairness to the OP you'd have to wonder if he had of come back eleven minutes early then would the clampers have been there. To thank him. To congratulate him. Maybe award a prize or at least a refund for the unused time.

Oh no!

It's all one way traffic.
Take, take, take.
There's no give.

Why on Earth... of course it's take take take! That's exactly how it's supposed to work!

OldMrBrennan83

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jaykay74

Dinarius wrote: »

You have to think they stood there and waited until the grace period expired.

D.

Ya, probably. Makes sense.

doolox

If more people avoided the city centre and did all their business where parking is free then the businesses in the centre would close down and thousands of people would be made redundant and thousand of businesses would close down and less rates would be paid and a lot of councillors would lose their seats in the next local elections and there would be hell to pay. But people are not gutsy enough to do this and the city is too attractive for most people so this dream scenario will not happen. I would love to see all DCC councillors lose their seats in the next election and all traffic wardens and clampers get some painful malady that does not quite kill them but makes their miserable lives a misery. While I have never been clamped because of my obsession with punctuality and time keeping I know lots of decent but slightly absent minded and busy people who are regularly taken for a ride with these horrendous parasites.

con___manx1

They get commission on cars they clamp so the more the better for them.

Are Am Eye

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

Why on Earth... of course it's take take take! That's exactly how it's supposed to work!

I'm afraid Nervous Wreck that you are afflicted with the kind of clamp that no credit or debit card can remove.
Yes, the clamp on you heart.

Your compassion is chained to the bed of a tow truck on route to the crushing yard.

There will always be men like the OP, NW.
Strike him down, and ten more will rise up to take his place. Smash the System!

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

doolox wrote: »

I know lots of decent but slightly absent minded and busy people who are regularly taken for a ride with these horrendous parasites.

If they are regularly caught then they are not just busy or absent minded.

Nervous Wreck

doolox wrote: »

If more people avoided the city centre and did all their business where parking is free then the businesses in the centre would close down and thousands of people would be made redundant and thousand of businesses would close down and less rates would be paid and a lot of councillors would lose their seats in the next local elections and there would be hell to pay. But people are not gutsy enough to do this and the city is too attractive for most people so this dream scenario will not happen. I would love to see all DCC councillors lose their seats in the next election and all traffic wardens and clampers get some painful malady that does not quite kill them but makes their miserable lives a misery. While I have never been clamped because of my obsession with punctuality and time keeping I know lots of decent but slightly absent minded and busy people who are regularly taken for a ride with these horrendous parasites.

Or instead of trying to topple society, people could just pay for their parking...

Nervous Wreck

Are Am Eye wrote: »

I'm afraid Nervous Wreck that you are afflicted with the kind of clamp that no credit or debit card can remove.
Yes, the clamp on you heart.

Your compassion is chained to the bed of a tow truck on route to the crushing yard.

There will always be men like the OP, NW.
Strike him down, and ten more will rise up to take his place. Smash the System!

What does compassion have to do with anything? Use a service, pay the fee. It's incredibly straightforward. It's one of the most basic elements of our society.

hullaballoo

I call shenanigans. There's no grace period in Dublin city centre.

The clampers are notorious as well. They'll clamp you 1 minute over your ticket time.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

hullaballoo wrote: »

I call shenanigans. There's no grace period in Dublin city centre.

The clampers are notorious as well. They'll clamp you 1 minute over your ticket time.

Just as well the OP was a quarter of an hour over so, or he'd have something to gripe about.

Are Am Eye

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

What does compassion have to do with anything? Use a service, pay the fee. It's incredibly straightforward. It's one of the most basic elements of our society.

Are you a prog / bot?
Is this the begining of AI taking over?

NinetyTwoTeam

No point posting bout it here, 90% of posters only reply to threads to gleefully tell the OP how wrong they were, dead chuffed with themselves and full of shadenfreude.

Clamping should be illegal, a ticket should suffice. Surely part of the reason for paying to park (besides just blatant money grabbing), is to make it so people will not leave their cars parked longer than necessary and thus making things fair for all, give others a chance to get parked to run their errands etc. Making the car immobile doesn't make much sense and adds more inconvenience than necessary.

My college, in addition to clamps, used to put large A4 size stickers that said PLEASE DO NOT PARK HERE on the windows that were impossible to peel off, basically vandalizing the car, which is really wrong.

Then you look at public footpaths which are meant to be illegal to park on, but my street has so many I have to walk in the street, and nothing is ever done.

Nothing makes sense in this country, and the sooner you accept that the happier you will be.

jebus28

Is it cool to pretend that clampers aren't complete and utter scumbags now?

Nervous Wreck

jebus28 wrote: »

Is it cool to pretend that clampers aren't complete and utter scumbags now?

In what way are they scumbags, specifically?

jebus28

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

In what way are they scumbags, specifically?

If the best you can do with your life is to place something on a car, that stops it from leaving the place that you don't want it to be, for a living, then you're pretty low in my estimates.

Nervous Wreck

jebus28 wrote: »

If the best you can do with your life is to place something on a car, that stops it from leaving the place that you don't want it to be, for a living, then you're pretty low in my estimates.

If the best you can do is have a job that allows you to survive, pay rent, support a family etc, then I reckon fair play to you. Many aren't fortunate enough to have that.

wexandproud

Are Am Eye wrote: »

In fairness to the OP you'd have to wonder if he had of come back eleven minutes early then would the clampers have been there. To thank him. To congratulate him. Maybe award a prize or at least a refund for the unused time.

Oh no!

It's all one way traffic.
Take, take, take.
There's no give.

thats not how it works , we are all expected to play by the rules . no reward for doing that

jebus28

OP, how dare you run a bit late even though that is perfectly understandable in modern life. You should have paid far in excess of the time needed to avoid this situation.

Nervous Wreck

jebus28 wrote: »

OP, how dare you run a bit late even though that is perfectly understandable in modern life. You should have paid far in excess of the time needed to avoid this situation.

Exactly! Plan ahead next time OP, problem solved.

Victor

There is no entitlement to a grace period.

Dinarius wrote: »

Yes, the letter of the law, but waiting (which they surely did) is almost entrapment, isn't it?

Care to explain that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrapment

con___manx1 wrote: »

They get commission on cars they clamp so the more the better for them.

No they don't. Dublin City pays a fixed fee for the year and expect X amount of enforcement.

hullaballoo wrote: »

I call shenanigans. There's no grace period in Dublin city centre.

Having voted on the grace period policy document, I can tell you there are grace periods in cases where your parking fee has expired. Obnoxious / nuisance parking won't get a grace period and dangerous parking will get you towed.

The clampers are notorious as well. They'll clamp you 1 minute over your ticket time.

What? You mean they actually implement the law? What next, barmen not serving more than a pint in a pint glass?

NinetyTwoTeam wrote: »

Clamping should be illegal, a ticket should suffice.

I hate to break it to you Vehicle Clamping Act 2015

NinetyTwoTeam wrote: »

Surely part of the reason for paying to park (besides just blatant money grabbing), is to make it so people will not leave their cars parked longer than necessary and thus making things fair for all, give others a chance to get parked to run their errands etc. Making the car immobile doesn't make much sense and adds more inconvenience than necessary.

The number of vehicles clamped at any one time is modest relative tot eh number of spaces.

On a justice basis it is better than a ticket, as it imposes the punishment at the time of the offence, not weeks later.

My college, in addition to clamps, used to put large A4 size stickers that said PLEASE DO NOT PARK HERE on the windows that were impossible to peel off, basically vandalizing the car, which is really wrong.

Ask college security for the approved method of removing the sticker.

Then you look at public footpaths which are meant to be illegal to park on, but my street has so many I have to walk in the street, and nothing is ever done.

Report them.

jebus28 wrote: »

OP, how dare you run a bit late even though that is perfectly understandable in modern life. You should have paid far in excess of the time needed to avoid this situation.

Such possibilities are considered and you can use Park-by-Text to add time. Indeed, this is the method the OP had used.

Mrs OBumble

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

Or instead of trying to topple society, people could just pay for their parking...

... or catch the bus/train/DART. Or cycle. Or even walk (horrors!)

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

jebus28 wrote: »

OP, how dare you run a bit late even though that is perfectly understandable in modern life. You should have paid far in excess of the time needed to avoid this situation.

Far in excess? A quarter of an hour's more would have left him well clear - particularly when you add his grace period.

jebus28

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

Exactly! Plan ahead next time OP, problem solved.

Nothing quite as cringeworthy as someone getting all giggly and excited at the sight of someone else's misfortune.
You genuinely think that the cost of removing a clamp is a fair punishment for being 15 minutes late? Nevermind the complete lack of logic clamping

KERSPLAT!

This has to be a wind up

Go on outta that ya mad egg!

me_irl

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

... or catch the bus/train/DART. Or cycle. Or even walk (horrors!)

Ah now, no! There'll be no talking sense here.

This is the righteous indignation thread!

Clampers bad, not clampers good.

KERSPLAT!

jebus28 wrote: »

Nothing quite as cringeworthy as someone getting all giggly and excited at the sight of someone else's misfortune.
You genuinely think that the cost of removing a clamp is a fair punishment for being 15 minutes late? Nevermind the complete lack of logic clamping

It was done by phone in the first place. If you're going to be late top up again by an hour, save everyone the hassle.

jebus28

Stefan Young Mortal wrote: »

Far in excess? A quarter of an hour's more would have left him well clear - particularly when you add his grace period.

How would 15 mins have left him well clear particularly after adding his grace period?

You remind me of my grandfather. Loves to see people getting inconvenienced.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

jebus28 wrote: »

Nothing quite as cringeworthy as someone getting all giggly and excited at the sight of someone else's misfortune.
You genuinely think that the cost of removing a clamp is a fair punishment for being 15 minutes late? Nevermind the complete lack of logic clamping

Not as bad as someone assuming what others feel. Answering the OP truthfully doesn't mean anybody's 'giggly' or 'exited' by it in the slightest.

Your faux offence is wasted.

jebus28

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

... or catch the bus/train/DART. Or cycle. Or even walk (horrors!)

Yes. There's no conceiveable scenario in the world where a car is needed.

jebus28

jebus28 wrote: »

You genuinely think that the cost of removing a clamp is a fair punishment for being 15 minutes late?

How long grace should ya get?

Martin567

NinetyTwoTeam wrote: »

Clamping should be illegal, a ticket should suffice. Surely part of the reason for paying to park (besides just blatant money grabbing), is to make it so people will not leave their cars parked longer than necessary and thus making things fair for all, give others a chance to get parked to run their errands etc. Making the car immobile doesn't make much sense and adds more inconvenience than necessary.

I agree. I can't think of any logical argument in support of clamping.

Ticketing makes sense. Towing a vehicle away makes sense.

Clamping makes zero sense. If a vehicle is illegally parked in some way, clamping simply fixes the illegally parked vehicle in place. It doesn't remove a potential obstruction or free up a parking space for someone else.