UFC 214 - DC vs Jones

Gamebred · 25-07-2017 6:34pm

Maia Decision

Pretty sure it was Jones doing the wrestling last time Wonder... hes a far superior mma wrestler.

Tinie · 25-07-2017 6:35pm

Woodley Sub

dashoonage wrote: »

I think everyone in the entire world wants Maia to win :P

I dont. I respect the chosen one massively as a champ. 4 title fights in a year? How can you not.

Plus his style is more exciting to me than Maia.

SQLDBA · 25-07-2017 7:05pm

Maia Decision

Saw this thread was just one of the top trends on Boards 4 days out from the fight.

First thought was someone was off the card and panicky looked through the last few posts. :P

Card is thankfully still as stacked as ever.

War Lawler!!

D.Q · 25-07-2017 7:14pm

Maia Decision

SQLDBA wrote: »

Saw this thread was just one of the top trends on Boards 4 days out from the fight.

First thought was someone was off the card and panicky looked through the last few posts. :P

Card is thankfully still as stacked as ever.

War Lawler!!

Shhhhhhh

wonderfullife · 25-07-2017 7:24pm

Maia Decision

Gamebred wrote: »

Pretty sure it was Jones doing the wrestling last time Wonder... hes a far superior mma wrestler.

Yeah that's exactly DC's point. He didn't train specific MMA wrestling the first time because he thought his general wrestling would be so superior.

I disagree with your second point. DC is gonna dump Jon on his head and clamp down this time.

wonderfullife · 25-07-2017 7:26pm

Maia Decision

As for Maia, let's remember he took down Chael Sonnen. I'm not saying who is better Chael or Tyron in pure wrestling terms but if Maia can get Chael to the mat, he can defo get T-Wood down.

ASOT · 25-07-2017 7:27pm

Jon Jones Sub

wonderfullife wrote: »

Yeah that's exactly DC's point. He didn't train specific MMA wrestling the first time because he thought his general wrestling would be so superior.

I disagree with your second point. DC is gonna dump Jon on his head and clamp down this time.

That a bull**** excuse, Jon does what Jon does best and beat him at his own game.

Gamebred · 25-07-2017 8:15pm

Maia Decision

Swallowing the DC kool aid I see Wonder, I expect a close fight again with Jones winning I rank the pair of the 2 of the best p4p fighters ever hope DC loses and heads up to HW again.

Wrongway1985 · 25-07-2017 8:22pm

Maia Decision

Are people overstating that OSP performance?

Wasn't exactly DC's finest in his last performance, not sure it was towelgate and the effort to shed pounds but remember he was well off v Rumble but luckily for him Rumble didn't bring any heart with him to the octagon that night, before that failed to look impressive against Anderson a middleweight who is 4 years older than him.

Fromvert · 25-07-2017 8:35pm

I expect to see Jones dumping DC on his head/back/ass again and just being better than DC everywhere.

DC is great and one of the best, Jones is just better.

xtal191 · 25-07-2017 8:59pm

Woodley Sub

ricero · 25-07-2017 9:18pm

Woodley Sub

Dont think there is a better analyst in any sport than Dan Hardy. Love inside the octagon

25-07-2017 9:24pm

Jon Jones Sub

WAR Jonny Bones, Woodley, Lawler

FCUK DC!

25-07-2017 9:25pm

Jon Jones Sub

Anyone fancy Jones might submit DC after training that BJJ for so long?

dashoonage · 25-07-2017 9:26pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Anyone fancy Jones might submit DC after training that BJJ for so long?

eh....he's a blue belt....

Gamebred · 25-07-2017 9:29pm

Maia Decision

In the gi, in mma grappling hes an elite black belt skill wise.

Zero-Cool · 25-07-2017 9:35pm

Maia Decision

[Deleted User] wrote: »

WAR Jonny Bones, Woodley, Lawler

FCUK DC!

Ooooohhhh if only you had Maia instead of Woodley

25-07-2017 9:35pm

Jon Jones Sub

Gamebred wrote: »

In the gi, in mma grappling hes an elite black belt skill wise.

Exactly Mini Mouse says himself he isn't even a white belt and he has submitted a ****e load of people.

Dtp1979 · 25-07-2017 9:57pm

dashoonage wrote: »

eh....he's a blue belt....

You won't see too many blue belts tapping vitor

dashoonage · 25-07-2017 10:00pm

Hold up... You can grapple without a gi?

darced · 25-07-2017 11:00pm

Maia Decision

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mailburner · 26-07-2017 1:16am

DC KO/TKO

I think we'll see a better dc than the first fight but whether that's going to be good enough I really don't know
you would imagine dc will have been killing himself to try and get the loss back and I really hope he does
I think at the odds dc might be worth a punt given how long its been since jones last fought....maybe I'm just clutching at straws opposing the most talented fighter on the planet...just want the man to win so badly

same goes for maia but I'm holding no hope there for him sadly, he'll be made stand for most of this and that won't be good for him, I predict a lot of booing in the opening round with very little actually happening

wonderfullife · 26-07-2017 2:00am

Maia Decision

I hate to bring this up but Jon Jones only fight in the USADA era was the OSP fight and he looked... human?

Everyone has heard the story of him hiding under the cage in the gym to avoid the drug testers but I'm not buying his cocaine excuse for that one. Both of his brothers have been popped for steroids in the NFL as well. All I'm saying is it's something to bear in mind. DC is adamant that Jones was always using steroids.

Let's assume he's totally clean and was always clean - it's still a massive amount of inactivity to overcome against an elite opponent. If he comes back and performs to the exact same level of the OSP fight, DC will run through him.

As for Maia, I'm sounding like a broken record but the size difference between them is incredible. It's going to visually look like Weidman v Gastelum. Demian is a massive welterweight and at some point size does matter. Every fight Maia goes into, people think he's going to get tooled up on the feet...I was guilty of that myself, I thought Condit would make mince meat of him standing. Despite all of that, he was hit more by Masvidal than his previous 6 opponents combined. He just finds ways to get it to the mat without taking damage, it's impressive.

I'm obviously biased here because I love Maia and DC but the most obvious scenario I see is the same we see every fight - Maia finds a way to drag him to the mat, takes his back and Woodley watching the clock praying to make it to the bell.

I'll be gutted if Woodley lands a haymaker to be fair. Nothing against him at all but it's hard not to warm to Maia.

LionelNashe · 26-07-2017 2:48am

I put a few quid on Cormier with Betfair the other day at about 3/1. I can't check how much right now because the site is down for maintenance. I'm more betting on Jones to f**k it up and lose than I am on Cormier to win. I just don't think Jones has the character to do everything he needs to do. I'm basing this, I suppose, on things that are not directly to do with his fighting ability: more the drugs, the DUIs, the viagra or whatever it was, and his general two-facedness, and the lay-off. I don't see how he can be rock-solid mentally with all of that baggage in his background.

Am I right that this is on about 7am our time? I might actually pay for this one and get up and watch it.

StringerBell · 26-07-2017 3:05am

DC Decision

Finally allowing myself to get excited about the Jones/DC fight, **** hitting the fan surely incoming!

Big fan of both men, two superb competitors. I think if Jones is at his best he will come through it and win but if he is at the same level of performance as he was against OSP he will get beaten I think and have gone for DC by submission on the poll as it just stood out to me when the page opened.

I actually hope we get a 5 round war and a split decision for DC to set up the trilogy

Jones plays it off like this fight is just another one, that its his era and doesn't want to make any fight bigger then it is, but this is huge for him and his legacy. He is already an ATG but he wants to go down as the GOAT and this is a very important step on that journey.

tinpib · 26-07-2017 3:07am

Maia Decision

LionelNashe wrote: »

Am I right that this is on about 7am our time? I might actually pay for this one and get up and watch it.

Main card is 3am so with Dc/Jones the 5th of 5 fights it is probably on no earlier than 5am by my calcs. If earlier fights go to points they will prob still have filler video to hype up the title fights. Could be closer to 530am.

Although Cyborg will prob finish yer wan in rd 1.