Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

blueser

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

In the immortal words of john Cleese, "It's not the despair, I can stand the despair. It's the hope!"

It's a variation on a (very old) saying; "it's the hope that kills you"

jr86

Now is maybe the time to catch Kerry

Wait till Clifford is unleashed next year! :eek:

Oldtree

Serious rain following us on the way up should be here soon

blueser

Oldtree wrote: »

Serious rain following us on the way up should be here soon

Nice of the Dubs to arrange the rain, to make the good Mayo folk feel at home. It's been raining back here (on the mayo/Ros border) since around 12:30.

Oldtree

Oldtree wrote: »

Serious rain following us on the way up should be here soon

its there already by the look of the minor players

Panrich

jr86 wrote: »

Now is maybe the time to catch Kerry

Wait till Clifford is unleashed next year! :eek:

I'll be surprised if the AFL scouts are not sniffing around.

Fr Tod Umptious

Panrich wrote: »

I'll be surprised if the AFL scouts are not sniffing around.

They have been for a number of years

Oldtree

[Deleted User] wrote: »

its there already by the look of the minor players

Heavy rain by Mayo standards not here yet, it's just humid

Fr Tod Umptious

Oldtree wrote: »

Heavy rain by Mayo standards not here yet, it's just humid

You mean "close"

Fr Tod Umptious

Mayo have the beating of them, need to get AOS out for where he is and drive at them.

km79

This is extremely frustrating
Don't care if we win playing o Shea full back is the wrong call and stinks again of focusing on opposition rather than our own strengths
Change it at HT
We are much the better team

jasonroche123

O Shea on Donaghy is bull, Robbing Peter to Pay Paul. Moran with 1-2 has the beating of his man so we need to get it in quicker

corny

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Mayo have the beating of them, need to get AOS out for where he is and drive at them.

In general play absolutely they do but its about putting it over the bar.

Kerry far more efficient in that and when O'Connor isn't getting many chances from placed balls scores dry up. Mayo are going to need another goal imo.

PARlance

I don't know. I honestly don't know.

Was that a good performance or did we throw it away. As much as I don't like seeing Aidan in there, I think it worked to some extent. He was caught out the field for their second, they launched that sideline ball straight in knowing he was caught out.

Great game by some. Doherty & Andy 2 of the best. Not sure why Boyle came off. Really need Clarke to get kicking it out quicker, 2nd half was much better. Seamie was very poor today. Cost us a goal and a few points.

blinding

We didn't control Paul Geaney enough .

Hopefully Keegan will be better the next day .

Perhaps Aiden O'Shea will do an even better Job on Donaghy the next day . On the other hand Donaghy might be more prepared as it won't be a surprise if O'Shea marks him .

Was the wet day any good for us ?

wotzgoingon

Well done Mayo. They gave away a lot on the kick outs while they left a free man nearly always when Kerry were kicking out. Hopefully they do a better job at marking down in Limerick.

tayto lover

Seamus O'Shea cost Mayo that game today. Lazy and careless footballer.

SomethingElse

Are the refs accountable at all for their performances? Surely in any other sport that would be reviewed and he'd be sent off to ref Junior B on Skellig Michael

Oldtree

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

You mean "close"

Yes it was very close today I'm not sure how many more replays my heart can take.

We had a few easy wides that should have been points, but not as many wides as usual, and the play was very controlled even up to our last point which was great to see. Aos on d was a brilliant idea imo and d was wreaked by the experience towards the end, aos was not. I think kerry are too reliant on d, like we were with McDonald, and it showed today. They are there for the taking, I'm convinced.

Oscar Bravo

3pm next saturday . Bring it on!

Fr Tod Umptious

km79 wrote: »

Draw is gone to 11:1 for those who may want to cover replay costs

Well done

corny

PARlance wrote: »

I don't know. I honestly don't know.

Was that a good performance or did we throw it away. As much as I don't like seeing Aidan in there, I think it worked to some extent. He was caught out the field for their second, they launched that sideline ball straight in knowing he was caught out.

Great game by some. Doherty & Andy 2 of the best. Not sure why Boyle came off. Really need Clarke to get kicking it out quicker, 2nd half was much better. Seamie was very poor today. Cost us a goal and a few points.

Donaghy played off his inexperience as a marker though and had a really influential game. The talk of Donaghy's resurgence had a bit of self fulfilling prophecy to it for Mayo. He worked off their doubt as much as anything else.

Just put Barrett on him and tell him he should be looking to expose a 34 year old geriatric.;) Too much negativity in Rochfords approach.

PressRun

PARlance wrote: »

I don't know. I honestly don't know.

Was that a good performance or did we throw it away. As much as I don't like seeing Aidan in there, I think it worked to some extent. He was caught out the field for their second, they launched that sideline ball straight in knowing he was caught out.

Great game by some. Doherty & Andy 2 of the best. Not sure why Boyle came off. Really need Clarke to get kicking it out quicker, 2nd half was much better. Seamie was very poor today. Cost us a goal and a few points.

We were the better team and yet still made stupid mistakes that nearly cost us.

Of all the ridiculous decisions I've seen, putting Aidan O'Shea on Donaghy is up there with the lot of them. I had a feeling that the Donaghy issue was being over thought and so it was.
Aidan is a midfielder. That is the position in which he has always played his best football and it's where he's been most effective for us all year. Taking him out of that role and putting him in a man marking role that he isn't even good at is absolutely suicidal stuff. It didn't even work - Donaghy still scored and was involved in nearly every Kerry move. So we took one of our most influential players out of the game for absolutely nothing. Our midfield struggled all day and Aidan's absence was felt. This should have been recognized early and rectified.
Kerry seemed to focus on stopping our runners fr half back and it worked. Lee struggled to get into it.
Barrett wasn't quick enough for o donoghue.
Andy showed well and Durcan when he came on. Cillian got a couple of unreal scores too.

sean mac

Lads someone needs to have a word with Rockford, like Clarkes dropping last year playing oshea at full back was ****ing madness especially with keegan being totally destroyed by murphy. It was a wet ****ing day and any decent full back outside Cafferky also would have broken ball away from Donaghy, a mad over thought stupid decision. Donaghy created a huge amount for kerry abd was their most effective forward, serious doubts about Rochford at this level. This plan did not work especially as at times kerry were creasing Clarkes kickouts

martyos121

First thought after the game like many others was questioning why AOS was left back to pick up Donaghy for the whole game, especially with him losing control of him so often. Then, I considered that Kerry kicked virtually nothing into Donaghy near the square after Aidan won the first aerial battle. So, that decision definitely cost us a few points (and a goal in fairness when Aidan was caught out of position the one time) but what kind of damage would star have done if they left Vaughan or Caff in there to mark him?

It looked very much like damage control to me, and it might have saved us to fight another day. As someone said here the last day, all it takes is two good balls in to Donaghy to kill the game. We didn't give them that opportunity, and settled for giving him control of the game from a little further out.

Also, Vaughan was the best player on the pitch today in my opinion, even for the scoring Andy did. He was involved in nearly every good attack and laid off some smart, quick handpasses on scoring moves. Boyle, Parsons and Doherty were all impressive too, and Cillian took his chances very well from the corner.

Biggest weak link was clearly Seamie O'Shea, and his inconsistency is very frustrating. He's either one of the best on the pitch or the weakest, there's no middle ground there at all. Stick Coen in there for the replay if they want to keep Aidan at fullback.

Overall, very happy with the performance today as I was fearing the worst at halftime having not killed them off when we should have. I fancy us to shade them in the replay by two or three points, as long as our two scoring forwards in Moran and O'Connor are as accurate the next day out.

km79

I'd like to reopen the debate with everyone who argued against me that FB is not a very specialist position ........it wasn't just Rochford who thought so ........how on earth he didn't rectify it when it was so obviously not working is beyond me
And those subs......
The players alone dug it out today
Special group

thomond2006

Why was Boyle taken off so early in the second half? He was having a stormer.

thomond2006

thomond2006 wrote: »

Why was Boyle taken off so early in the second half? He was having a stormer.

Unless he was injured, the biggest mistake of the match.

SomethingElse

km79 wrote: »

I'd like to reopen the debate with everyone who argued against me that FB is not a very specialist position ........it wasn't just Rochford who thought so ........how on earth he didn't rectify it when it was so obviously not working is beyond me
And those subs......
The players alone dug it out today
Special group

There was a massive sense of deflation around us when Drake's name was called out. He is simply not a forward.

km79

Deleted User wrote: »

thomond2006 wrote: »

Why was Boyle taken off so early in the second half? He was having a stormer.

Unless he was injured, the biggest mistake of the match.

Possible hamstring injury

I didn't think he was having a stormer as it happens and agreed with the hange to bring durkan on for him

Dreadful wide just before it too