Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

PARlance

Mayo News

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Our extra podcast this week is packed full of interviews to help you bridge the gap between now and Sunday's All Ireland semi final showdown with Kerry in Croke Park.

Right off the top, we hear from Mayo manager Stephen Rochford before host Rob Murphy and John Gunnigan of the Mayo GAA Blog introduce you to the show.

Our guests, in order of appearance, are TV3 Sports correspondent Sinéad Kissane, former Mayo selector and current Ballintubber manager Tom Prendergast and Mayo News columnist Billy Joe Padden.

PARlance

km79 wrote: »

3 changes for kerry

Cillian Young replaces Fionn Fitzgerald in full back line
Anthony Maher replaces Jack Barry in midfield
Stephen O brien replaces Donnacha Walsh who apparently is injured and not in the 26

Bryan Sheehan and Gavin Crowley come in as subs.

Are Kerry any different from everyone else when it comes to naming their team? Should we expect 1-2 changes.

If so, I can't see O'Brien starting, I think he'll be kept up their sleeve. I can see Barry starting too.

seligehgit

PARlance wrote: »

Are Kerry any different from everyone else when it comes to naming their team? Should we expect 1-2 changes.

If so, I can't see O'Brien starting, I think he'll be kept up their sleeve. I can see Barry starting too.

I think they tend to start the announced team,we're a tad extreme in the extent to which we name a phoney team.

jr86

Whatever about the team there are definitely a few names on the bench to give cause for concern. Barry and savage will definitely see action at some stage but the addition of Sheehan has to be noted. No-one better to bring on and nail a long range free or two near the death

Have a bad feeling darran O'Sullivan has a big game in him too, and BJK always takes watching

PARlance

I was under the impression that anyone on 2 blacks got a free pass for the final. Not so according to The Connaught Telegraph and Prenty.

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MAYO is in real danger of losing two players to suspension as the All-Ireland championship reaches its boiling point, The Connaught Telegraph has learned.

As Stephen Rochford's charges face Kerry in Sunday's SFC semi-final, two of his players - Lee Keegan and Donal Vaughan - are walking a disciplinary tightrope in terms of playing in the All-Ireland final should Mayo come out on top against the Kingdom.

According to the GAA rule book, a player will be suspended for one match if he either receives three black cards within the year’s league or championship campaign, three double yellow cards, three instances of a black card following a yellow card in a match, or any combination of the previous three.

Ahead of Sunday's game, both Keegan and Vaughan, along with three Kerry players, have picked up two black each.

Should any of them receive a black next Sunday they will get an automatic one-match suspension, which will be their next championship game.

That will mean that the two Mayo and three Kerry players would miss the All-Ireland final if they get a black next Sunday. This is unless Sunday's game ends in a draw which would then rule them out of the replay.

There has been a lot of confusion regarding black cards picked up by players and whether or not a suspension carries into an All-Ireland final.

Speaking to The Connaught Telegraph this evening Connacht GAA Council secretary John Prenty confirmed that blacks cards will apply to All-Ireland finals.

He explained: “While there was a proposal which was passed that blacks or yellow cards picked up by players would not count regarding suspension for All-Ireland finals it was never entered into the GAA rule book, and therefore any ban from cards picked up by players will also count for All-Ireland finals.

"Should any of the two Mayo or three Kerry players who are on two blacks going into Sunday's semi-final pick up a third black card it will rule them out of the final. This is unless Sunday's game ends in a draw in which case they would be unable to play in the replay.

“However, while the one-match ban for three blacks cards, or a combination of black and yellow cards, comes into place until the final card is picked up by a said player, it means a player can't appeal any of the cards he has picked up until that time.

"Take for instance if a player picks up a third black he can only then appeal anyone of the three, be it the first, second or third one. Then. I suppose this gives the players the extra chance of getting one their cards rescinded,” added Mr. Prenty.

seligehgit

As I said before I can't really see what Michael Geaney brings to the plate for Kerry.Happy out he's down to start,Walsh is a significant loss for Kerry.

Forecast is bad for Sunday,I think a war of attrition will suit our lads,fingers crossed!

jr86

Geaney must be doing something right to keep a lot of quality players on the bench

He looks no world beater at first glance but he does win breaking ball well and if they can get the lions share of primary possesion they're well on their way

SecretsOfEarth

As a Kerry fan, I often wonder about Geaney as a starter too. In my opinion, while he does some good work, he can be prone to sloppy decision making and rash shot taking. Hopefully he does well on Sunday for 40-50 minutes until Savage/BJK replaces him.

dazza161989

seligehgit wrote: »

As I said before I can't really see what Michael Geaney brings to the plate for Kerry.Happy out he's down to start,Walsh is a significant loss for Kerry.

Forecast is bad for Sunday,I think a war of attrition will suit our lads,fingers crossed!

As a Kerry man I can't see Walsh being a loss..... his best days are behind him and offers nothing in the way of scoring. He is effective at gathering the breaking ball but I'd much prefer to see Stephen O'Brien starting as he poses more of a threat.

jr86

dazza161989 wrote: »

As a Kerry man I can't see Walsh being a loss..... his best days are behind him and offers nothing in the way of scoring. He is effective at gathering the breaking ball but I'd much prefer to see Stephen O'Brien starting as he poses more of a threat.

That's an interesting point. I think geaney was starting regardless and to be honest id worry more about o 'brien over walsh as a scoring threat. Might well be a bit of a blessing in disguise in a way for Kerry as even the knock on effect could mean someone like Darran comes in earlier who on his day is deadly. His cameos in 2015 were tremendous

seligehgit

dazza161989 wrote: »

As a Kerry man I can't see Walsh being a loss..... his best days are behind him and offers nothing in the way of scoring. He is effective at gathering the breaking ball but I'd much prefer to see Stephen O'Brien starting as he poses more of a threat.

Ah I would start O Brien hands down,I don't see the logic of him coming off the bench. Irrespective of finishing the game with your strongest team and the game becoming stretched he's too talented and pacey an individual to warrant twenty minutes or so.

Walsh is no longer the player he was but he is a man to win and carry the breaking ball and his non availability is one less thing for us to concern ourselves with.

seligehgit

I recall O Sullivan had some injuries around the time of the intermediate club semi final against Westport and he's had his fair share of injuries down through the years.Is he fighting fit?He's a serious option off the bench.

PARlance

seligehgit wrote: »

I recall O Sullivan had some injuries around the time of the intermediate club semi final against Westport and he's had his fair share of injuries down through the years.Is he fighting fit?He's a serious option off the bench.

That was Junior wasn't it? Vs Louisburgh in the Semi that you're thinking .

He was in bits for that Junior final, looked like his hamstring was gone the whole game.

seligehgit

PARlance wrote: »

That was Junior wasn't it? Might be vs Louisburgh in the Semi that you're thinking .

He was in bits for that Junior final, looked like his hamstring was gone the whole game.

Ta an ceart agat,mixed them up.Yeah he was in bits for the final!

jr86

A shame for him as hes still far from old. That said id be very wary of him. He's the exact type of direct running player who'd cause chaos against our defence

seligehgit

David Clarke (Ballina Stephenites)
Brendan Harrison (Aghamore)
Donal Vaughan (Ballinrobe)
Keith Higgins (Ballyhaunis)
Lee Keegan (Westport)
Chris Barrett (Belmullet)
Colm Boyle (Davitts)
Seamus O'Shea (Breaffy)
Tom Parsons (Charlestown)
Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore)
Aidan O'Shea (Breaffy)
Diarmuid O'Connor (Ballintubber)
Jason Doherty (Burrishoole)
Cillian O'Connor (Ballintubber, captain)
Andy Moran (Ballaghaderreen)
Team Manager: Stephen Rochford.
Selectors: Donie Buckley, Peter Burke & Tony McEntee.

Looks like Donie is going to be taking Donaghy.

PARlance

seligehgit wrote: »

David Clarke (Ballina Stephenites)
Brendan Harrison (Aghamore)
Donal Vaughan (Ballinrobe)
Keith Higgins (Ballyhaunis)
Lee Keegan (Westport)
Chris Barrett (Belmullet)
Colm Boyle (Davitts)
Seamus O'Shea (Breaffy)
Tom Parsons (Charlestown)
Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore)
Aidan O'Shea (Breaffy)
Diarmuid O'Connor (Ballintubber)
Jason Doherty (Burrishoole)
Cillian O'Connor (Ballintubber, captain)
Andy Moran (Ballaghaderreen)
Team Manager: Stephen Rochford.
Selectors: Donie Buckley, Peter Burke & Tony McEntee.

Looks like Donie is going to be taking Donaghy.

Durcan out for Keegan. Based on the performance vs Rossies that was the call but it's one hell of a call.

jr86

Ara i can't see durcan left out. Doherty to lose out i imagine

km79

Forecast for Sunday is getting worse by the day

Zeek12

jr86 wrote: »

Ara i can't see durcan left out. Doherty to lose out i imagine

Doherty has been putting some serious performances in this summer, his work rate is outstanding and he's usually good for a point or two.
It would be surprising if he's dropped....Durcan will definitely have a big part to play, even if he doesn't start - Boyle has been taken off early in a few games already....isn't there some issue with him carrying an injury?

jr86

Zeek12 wrote: »

Doherty has been putting some serious performances in this summer, his work rate is outstanding and he's usually good for a point or two.
It would be surprising if he's dropped....Durcan will definitely have a big part to play, even if he doesn't start - Boyle has been taken off early in a few games already....isn't there some issue with him carrying an injury?

Someone has to be left out. I can't see 6 forwards starting with mcloughlin not playing sweeper anymore. There's a possibility andy could be left out but very unlikely id say

He's not going to name keegan as a 12 so he'll pick an orthodox line up on paper. Probably a fb line of Harrison Vaughan Barrett and Higgins sweeping behind durcan boyler and keegan

BonnieSituation

Bryan Sheehan? Darran O'Sullivan? Jesus!!!

The infamous conveyor belt of talent just keeps on giving!

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Anyway...

Is that Lee in the half backs? Ffs.

SomethingElse

jr86 wrote: »

Someone has to be left out. I can't see 6 forwards starting with mcloughlin not playing sweeper anymore. There's a possibility andy could be left out but very unlikely id say

He's not going to name keegan as a 12 so he'll pick an orthodox line up on paper. Probably a fb line of Harrison Vaughan Barrett and Higgins sweeping behind durcan boyler and keegan

I can't see Doherty left out. We're a great deal weaker whenever he's not on the pitch. His work rate is phenomenal.

DoctaDee

km79 wrote: »

Forecast for Sunday is getting worse by the day

Aye .. and in the context of an overall ****ty day, the rain is due to be at its heaviest between 2-4 pm, 5mm due to fall in the hour around throw in

https://www.yr.no/place/Ireland/Leinster/Croke_Park/hour_by_hour.html

MaroonAndGreen

jr86 wrote: »

Ara i can't see durcan left out. Doherty to lose out i imagine

I'd be a mixture of shocked and disgusted were Doherty to be left out. He's become very important, especially if we are going to go back to our old style of intense tackling, hard running and pushing up on kickouts.

kupus

DoctaDee wrote: »

Aye .. and in the context of an overall ****ty day, the rain is due to be at its heaviest between 2-4 pm, 5mm due to fall in the hour around throw in

https://www.yr.no/place/Ireland/Leinster/Croke_Park/hour_by_hour.html

mayo play their best football on good days, so I have to revise my 10 point prediction and be a bit realistic for the conditions and bring it down to 5.
Pity, I was looking forward to a real humping of Kerry.:pac:

oh the greeeeen and reeeeed of mayooooooo.

seligehgit

The worst of the rainfall from Hurricane Gert is supposed to avoid Dublin tomorrow.Here's the official Met Eireann forecast for the the capital tomorrow.

Dry for much of Sunday but some rain is expected to develop in the late afternoon and evening,heavy at times.
Hill fog later also.Top tempatures of 17 to 19 Celsius.Moderate southeasterly breezes will veer southwesterly.

Podcast is predicting a huge Mayo crowd,our sixteenth man and a crowd of seventy to seventy five thousand.

OTB are going to have a Mayo panel this afternoon,nice listening for the journey up.

Royal Legend

As a neutral am looking forward to a great game, hopefully you get it tactically right, wished youse good luck the last couple of years, so won't this year
Hopefully which ever team gets through on Sunday goes on to win it out.

Bunny Colvin

Paddy won't miss out. Wouldn't drop Doherty either. It will be interesting to see how we line up.

Is this the last stand for us? Lose and there could be a few of the old guard moving on.

Mike Finnerty was on Newstalk on Thursday morning, he said we could easily take 40,000 supporters with us tomorrow. I wouldn't be surprised. Expect to see a wall of green and red when, can't wait.

seligehgit

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

Paddy won't miss out. Wouldn't drop Doherty either. It will be interesting to see how we line up.

Is this the last stand for us? Lose and there could be a few of the old guard moving on.

Mike Finnerty was on Newstalk on Thursday morning, he said we could easily take 40,000 supporters with us tomorrow. I wouldn't be surprised. Expect to see a wall of green and red when, can't wait.

It'll be one or either although there's been some talk of Diarmuid.Can't see that happening.

Seamie could lose out.