Is an attack in Dublin imminent?

BalcombeSt4

Sure we've already had ISIS style terror attacks from Protestant terrorist groups in the 1970's - 90's.

The Shankill Butchers cut victims throats from ear to ear & slashed their & wrists.
The UDA did the same to SDLP member Paddy Wilson & Irene Andrews.

And then in this state..

Dublin was bombed twice in 1972 & 1973 killing 3 people, the year after Dublin & Monaghan was bombed in a ISIS style no warning carbomb attack that killed 35 & injured 300 inlcuding twin babies.
Dublin Airport was bombed by the UDA resulting in 1 death & 15 injured. Belturbet in Cavan & Kay's Tavern in Dundalk were bombed killing 4 people & injuring about 50.
Pettigo was bombed.
The Dublin-Belfast train was bombed in 1994 & so was a pub in Dublin the same year.
RTE studios in Donnybrook was bombed
Wolfe Tones Grave in Bodenstown was bombed
The Daniel O'Connell monument in O'Connell Street was bombed
A radio mast in Raphoe was bombed
A electricity sub-station in Tallaght was bombed
The Daniel O'Connell monument at Glasnevin Cemetery bombed
Statue of Wolf Tone in St Stephen's Green bombed
In Birdstown two people were shot by the UDA
MI6 Agents the Littlejohn brothers firebombed several builldings in Dublin & robbed a bank.
The UDA stabbed to death a civilian in Sallins, Kildare
In 1986 the UDA planted four bombs in Dublin city.

And theres more I forget

Widdershins

NIMAN wrote: »

Your fear is irrational I'm afraid.
The fact that you happened to chat to someone who died is just coincidence, nothing more.

You aren't going to any more concerts, you aren't going to any sporting events? You'll soon be living under the stairs if this is how you feel.

What people are saying is true. You still have more chance of winning the lottery than being killed by a terrorist in Europe. Thats the facts, whether you want to believe it or not. Even if you were at the Manchester concert two weeks ago, the chances of you getting killed or injured was 0.35%. I know many will say "tell that to those who died or got injured" but it shows that even being at the event you statistically had a very low chance of being unlucky enough to be killed or hurt. So think then how small the numbers get when you are just generally out and about at a random concert or sporting event?

Miniscule.

How up to date are your statistics, please?

NIMAN

Widdershins wrote: »

How up to date are your statistics, please?

Completely up to date.

How many people are in London? Who many died/were injured last night?

More chance of winning the Euromillions.

wakka12

And I think there is a strong chance. Being neutral clearly doesn't matter just look at stockholm. And there is a presence of jihadis in Ireland, look at that couple arrested in Wateford a few months ago who were affiliated with ISIS and money laundering for them and recruiting jihadis in Ireland.

EagererBeaver

Penny Tration wrote: »

I'm genuinely afraid it'll happen in Ireland. I'm usually quite a logical person, but I'm scared.


People can say "you have more chance of being hit by a car, don't live in fear and let them win," and whatever else, but I'm still afraid.


I had to call and text relatives and friends and immediate family to check they were safe after both attacks. A lad I chatted to on a slimming world facebook group died in the Manchester attack.

As it gets closer and closer to Ireland, I'm afraid. I won't be going to any major concerts, and I didn't renew my rugby season ticket because as illogical or irrational as it may be, it has me genuinely scared and worried, and I won't enjoy concerts or matches while I feel unsafe.

No offense, but this is completely daft.

A lad you chatted to on a Facebook group about slimming world? You understand that there's no connection to you here? A lad you spoke to on the internet is not some lad round the corner - it's not "getting closer". He might have been chatting to someone else who lived in Timbuktu ffs.

Mountainsandh

Yes I think it will happen in Ireland. Not necessarily Dublin.
Ferries, Tayto Park, summer concerts/festivals, shopping centers, discos/pubs, matches, or even a crowded beach on a sunny day... I don't think the town selected is massively important, especially not at the scale of Ireland.
The Pope's visit if there's going to be one (I actually had to Google that) would probably be high risk too.

The smaller Isis outfits have shown themselves to be opportunistic : remember the old priest who got his throat slashed in a small village in France during mass ?
I also remember the shock, in 2015, when a first beheading in the name of Isis happened outside of Lyon, in a company in the middle of nowhere so to speak (Industrial zone near small town/village). The guy stuck the victim's (boss) head outside on the railings with IS flags beside it. It's so strange to read the articles now, they explain candidly about beheadings and terrorists' modus opperandi, it wasn't common knowledge back then. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Saint-Quentin-Fallavier_attack

El_Duderino 09

py2006 wrote:

Had a conversation in work on Fri and this guy reckoned he'd think twice now about going to Croker or the Aviva and more weary when walking through the inner city. He also pointed out that the name Mohammed is the fastest growing male name in Ireland. Didn't know how quite to respond to that one.

Some people are more prone to being frightened than others. Your colleague sounds like a nervous person.

An attack in Dublin is inevitable on a along enough timeline. It's not likely to happen any particular time though. You have to admire the way the English have dealt with the last three attacks in London, Manchester and London. I imagine if it happened here here would be a lot of people who soil themselves and want some major OTT reactionary response. Some people just get frightened easily.

Widdershins

NIMAN wrote: »

Completely up to date.

Are you sure? When and by whom were they published?

Widdershins

Mountainsandh wrote: »

Yes I think it will happen in Ireland. Not necessarily Dublin.
Ferries, Tayto Park, summer concerts/festivals, shopping centers, discos/pubs, matches, or even a crowded beach on a sunny day... I don't think the town selected is massively important, especially not at the scale of Ireland.
The Pope's visit if there's going to be one (I actually had to Google that) would probably be high risk too.

The smaller Isis outfits have shown themselves to be opportunistic : remember the old priest who got his throat slashed in a small village in France during mass ?
I also remember the shock, in 2015, when a first beheading in the name of Isis happened outside of Lyon, in a company in the middle of nowhere so to speak (Industrial zone near small town/village). The guy stuck the victim's (boss) head outside on the railings with IS flags beside it. It's so strange to read the articles now, they explain candidly about beheadings and terrorists' modus opperandi, it wasn't common knowledge back then. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Saint-Quentin-Fallavier_attack

It's revolting. Again it illustrates how people never suspected that those men had such evil ambitions/plans/desires/tendencies in their minds. The guy worked for his victim, he was well able to keep it all hidden.

AzcuzCoz

My biggest fear about an attack on Irish soil is the target.

A scenario:

All-Ireland final at Croke Park. Suicide bomber in a packed stand. People flee. Suicide bomber targets crowds at the exits, people who do flee outside are targeted by another bomber who detonates.

Scores killed, unimaginable amount of wounded.

Obviously this would be very hard due to security measures, but it is not impossible.

Of course, Ireland is a neutral country which would make a large scale terrorist attack here unlikely, to say the least.

BTW, has there been any known intercepted terror threat in this country as of yet?

Mountainsandh

bilbot79 wrote: »

I think it would be a bad idea for isis to attack us. We're more useful as a territory next to the enemy, maybe because of the only land border with uk. If we are attacked we would tighten up.

Yeah, I think that would probably protect Ireland a bit for while alright. As the Waterford arrests show, Ireland is probably considered a good spot to carry out secretarial/communication/strategical and treasury duties, well it must have been, until now, when some arrests have taken place.

The_Kew_Tour

IMO it will 100% happen..

Most likely first will be lone wolf or it will be well organised.

But people can't stop living their lives either. I'm going to few matches and concert in summer.

Ireland is basically a mini England maybe 10-15 years behind. Culture wise this country is changing fast.

The sad thing is it will take another 20 or so attacks around a Europe before maybe realising they need to act when it should be now.

If it happens here I have no faith in our security to be much use.

We are such a easy target for these lads it's scary, but they may have bigger fish to fry for while yet

AzcuzCoz

I don't recall, but was security stepped up here after two 767's hit the Twin Towers? After tubes and a bus was blown up in London? After all the chaos that has gone on in France the past three years?

EagererBeaver

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

IMO it will 100% happen..

Most likely first will be lone wolf or it will be well organised.

Kind of covering all the bases there, no?

Beyondgone

I think Ireland has the same attitude to psychology as it does to Isis. It doesn't work on us. They wouldn't bother. We'd only laugh and batter them. They will stick to the UK, France etc. We have an odd pass. I blame bags of cans.

Mountainsandh

maizes wrote: »

london suspect travelled from dublin on eurolines coach

I googled that but nothing comes up ? Do you have a link to anything ?

The_Kew_Tour

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Kind of covering all the bases there, no?

100% will happen is not covering all bases.

The 2nd part is what I think will be most likely 2 scenario to happen.

I hope im wrong

AzcuzCoz

Ireland is neutral, fact, but it doesn't make us less at risk.

Damien360

Beyondgone wrote: »

I think Ireland has the same attitude to psychology as it does to Isis. It doesn't work on us. They wouldn't bother. We'd only laugh and batter them. They will stick to the UK, France etc. We have an odd pass. I blame bags of cans.

Utterly ridiculous comment. We are a very Christian, very western and somewhat liberal society.

We have an army that works Monday to Friday 9-5. A police force that is rotten at the top with a government that is due to go on 4 months holidays anytime soon.

Our media is pro government, which for the most part live in well off areas and is quick to justify the racist card when it is played by any minority.

We pander to all minority's that play that card with money at the taxpayers expense.

An attack will come and we will do nothing. No leadership whatsoever.

EagererBeaver

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

100% will happen is not covering all bases.

The 2nd part is what I think will be most likely 2 scenario to happen.

I hope im wrong

So it'll either be a lone wolf or a highly sophisticated operation (implying that it'll most likely involve more than one person).

Insightful to say the least.

wakka12

AzcuzCoz wrote: »

Ireland is neutral, fact, but it doesn't make us less at risk.

Of course it makes us less at risk
It doesn't make us have no risk.

The_Kew_Tour

EagererBeaver wrote: »

So it'll either be a lone wolf or a highly sophisticated operation (implying that it'll most likely involve more than one person).

Insightful to say the least.

Move on

EagererBeaver

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Move on

You've posted fear mongering gibberish and been called out on it. Explain yourself.

If there's an attack, it'll be by one person, or more than one person. Those are the only two scenarios possible. In your wisdom, you have deduced that these are "the two most likely scenarios". Daft. Absolutely ****ing daft.

The_Kew_Tour

EagererBeaver wrote: »

You've posted fear mongering gibberish and been called out on it. Explain yourself.

If there's an attack, it'll be by one person, or more than one person. Those are the only two scenarios possible. In your wisdom, you have deduced that these are "the two most likely scenarios". Daft. Absolutely ****ing daft.

Lol

EagererBeaver

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Lol

Indeed. Muppet.

The_Kew_Tour

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Indeed. Muppet.

I have been called worse

Shoes and Boots

Ireland neutral country,which help people of East trough charity organisations all around world. Ireland forces doesn't destroy homes, bringing countries to poverty. There is no idiots make attaks in Dublin I think.If there will any, IRA will find them faster than gards and I don't think I have tell what will happen with them after that.

The_Kew_Tour

Shoes and Boots wrote: »

Ireland neutral country,which help people of East trough charity organisations all around world. Ireland forces doesn't destroy homes, bringing countries to poverty. There is no idiots make attaks in Dublin I think.If there will any, IRA will find them and I don't think I have tell what will happen with them after that.

I doubt the IRA will do much mind you. And unless they kill the guilty and guilty only they will only make things worse

prinzeugen

Shoes and Boots wrote: »

Ireland neutral country,which help people of East trough charity organisations all around world. Ireland forces doesn't destroy homes, bringing countries to poverty. There is no idiots make attaks in Dublin I think.If there will any, IRA will find them and I don't think I have tell what will happen with them after that.

Nothing to do with being neutral and nothing to do with the UK bombing ISIS. They are attacking western life regardless of what country it is.

There will be some sort of incident in Ireland at some point in the future. These people are slaughtering anyone that does not follow their take on Islam including former friends and neighbours.

The_Kew_Tour

prinzeugen wrote: »

Nothing to do with being neutral and nothing to do with the UK bombing ISIS. They are attacking western life regardless of what country it is.

Sadly if it can happen in Sweden it can happen anywhere.

We just have to accept this is part of norm in Europe for short term at least. Fingers crossed we can get some solution that will make this a surprise again rather then regular occurrence