Is an attack in Dublin imminent?

py2006

...do you think?

I know an attack here wouldn't make the same kind of world wide statement as an attack on Britain or America has (or would it?) for these kind of people. But do you think in light of what is happening at stones throw away in England it could stretch over here? We are white westerners too after all.

I think we'd be an easy target as the Gardai wouldn't be able to respond to a situation of that level compared other nations. I always thought that if they wanted to, they could probably easily take a plane from Dublin airport and slam it into London or here.

Had a conversation in work on Fri and this guy reckoned he'd think twice now about going to Croker or the Aviva and more weary when walking through the inner city. He also pointed out that the name Mohammed is the fastest growing male name in Ireland. Didn't know how quite to respond to that one.

While it may not be imminent, do you believe it could happen here in the near future?

cnoc

py2006 wrote: »

...do you think?

I know an attack here wouldn't make the same kind of world wide statement as an attack on Britain or America has (or would it?) for these kind of people. But do you think in light of what is happening at stones throw away in England it could stretch over here? We are white westerners too after all.

I think we'd be an easy target as the Gardai wouldn't be able to respond to a situation of that level compared other nations. I always thought that if they wanted to, they could probably easily take a plane from Dublin airport and slam it into London or here.

Had a conversation in work on Fri and this guy reckoned he'd think twice now about going to Croker or the Aviva and more weary when walking through the inner city. He also pointed out that the name Mohammed is the fastest growing male name in Ireland. Didn't know how quite to respond to that one.

While it may not be imminent, do you believe it could happen here in the near future?

Maybe.... but speculation.

The Backwards Man

Why do you think the most experienced counter-terrorism force in Europe would be unable to respond exactly?

Captain Obvious

I think they are more likely to hit a Northern target. Targeting Dublin won't really help the dissidents cause.

Cee-Jay-Cee

I believe it is possible and that Gardai wouldn't be anywhere next or near capable of handling such an incident. They would be able to handle the whole aftermath but as for reacting to an ongoing incident, they don't have the know how, capabilities or resources to deal with something like happened in London last night especially if it happened abywhere other than Dublin. It would be pandemonium.

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Why do you think the most experienced counter-terrorism force in Europe would be unable to respond exactly?

It's a completely different type terrorism and they don't have the armed capabilities to react to a mass killing (other than by explosion which is the more traditional type of terrorism that they have been dealing with)

Richard Hillman

Its not imminent but it will happen eventually. Probably within the next 5 years

Raging_Ninja

I don't think we have the same level of ghettos or squallor typical in some British, French and German cities, so the amount of homegrown disaffection might well be a good bit lower than in other European countries.

Instead we have a drug problem and the crime and murders that come with that, but that isn't​ called terrorism. Then again we do have the last dead-enders in the Continuity and Real IRA (or whatever they call themselves nowadays), but then again they are also tied up in the drugs trade either directly or at arms length.

pumpkin4life

The CSO said that the Muslim population recorded an increase of 33% between 2011 and 2016. Population increases tend to be exponential as well, so Muslims as a percentage of the population will probably rise. Also you must take into account that there are some people not recorded/don't state on the form that they're Muslim, even though they are so the number in reality is higher.

Also this is what the politicians and rulers of this country want:

The elite don't give two ****s about you.

I predict a major islamic related incident in the next two to three years in this country.

Mr.Micro

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Its not imminent but it will happen eventually. Probably within the next 5 years

Sure An Garda are up to it, lol

Harry Palmr

pumpkin4life wrote: »

I predict a major islamic related incident in the next two to three years in this country.

Bookmarked! :pac:

pumpkin4life

I also posted this in another thread, it applies to Ireland as well so I'll stick it here.

pumpkin4life wrote: »

Some of the reasons why this is happening:

-Education and the university system dominated by left wing losers. Teach critical theory and postmodernism on steroid nonsense to smart but not very smart people. These are also the people that end up as your artists, your writers, your musicians. Result is that everyone is a 'victim' these days. People go around having that little bit more hate for each other.

-Importing a group of people who on the whole, have a lower IQ than the native population. Because IQ is a powerful indicator of success and because the west is becoming increasingly tech heavy and tech dominated, there are an increasing amount of people being excluded from society. This creates more hatred and bitterness and an inability to integrate with the native population.

-The upper classes are becoming more and more isolated from the middle and working classes. Plus, the tendency of socialists not to like poor or working class people, but to be envious of those who have wealth. The bubble that has created in these two directions leads to more bitterness and resentment because a Trinity College educated law degree AO civil servant has no conception of a Traveller problem in rural Mayo or a multicultural problem in North County dublin, to use Irish examples.

-Some parts of modern life are soul sucking. There are more and more mentally unwell people and society is become very nihilistic. Fianna Fail leader Michael Martin saying that national soverignty is an outdated concept for example. When your people are depressed, they tend to become more conflict avoidant, or more willing to engage in self sabotaging behavior.

-The increase of a criminal gang situation in Rotherham/Roschdale etc creating a group of mentally ill people. Plus the inability of these gangs/pimps to be arrested. Social worker makes a complaint, could lose the job due to being racist or facing a group of lads hanging around the house, "shame if something was to happen, don't you know".

This is a systemic problem. There's a lot to unravel and it won't end well.

Civil war/takeover/deportations. This is where things will converge. All it is is a part of the tide of history.

The Backwards Man

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

I believe it is possible and that Gardai wouldn't be anywhere next or near capable of handling such an incident. They would be able to handle the whole aftermath but as for reacting to an ongoing incident, they don't have the know how, capabilities or resources to deal with something like happened in London last night especially if it happened abywhere other than Dublin. It would be pandemonium.

Yeah, we've only had terrorists in Ireland for 150 years, what knowhow would the Gardai have?

pumpkin4life

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Bookmarked! :pac:

Let's hope I'm completely and utterly wrong.

super_furry

pumpkin4life wrote: »

I also posted this in another thread, it applies to Ireland as well so I'll stick it here.

"Left wing losers" in the very first line.

That's bigly impressive there Donald.

BuilderPlumber

Probably not enough money in Irish coffers for the crime syndicate to extort. Atheist death cults hiding behind a Christian breakaway religion who brainwash fools prefer to go for the richer countries.

ThisRegard

Tom Clonan, another commentator who makes a living for telling us what we already know if we have any sort of common sense.

RayM

I find it hard to imagine that it won't happen at some point. I mean, a disaffected, suicidal man in his twenties or thirties, could easily take it upon himself to drive a van down a busy footpath, or go postal with a knife. And if he's a Muslim, we'll all call it "terrorism" and ISIS will say that they orchestrated the whole thing. And if it happens once, there'll probably be copycat cases.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Think it is imperative that the Gardai begin working with the PSNI on issues that could involve such an attack here. The PSNI has more experience in dealing with urban civilian terrorism than practically any other force in the world. It would be foolish of us in the South to not tap into that well of knowledge and capability for the benefit of people down here.

Set up a number of armed and intelligence gathering units that are a blend of man power from both Police forces. Who would then have autonomy under both jurisdictions.

At the very least it would lay the groundwork for greater cooperation in Police work on the island as a whole, and at most it could help save lives.

Richard Hillman

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Its not imminent but it will happen eventually. Probably within the next 5 years

Any idea of the date? It's just I have a hospital consultants appointment in the city centre in a few years time- might try and defer it if you think it wise.

py2006

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Atheist death cults...

Eh, what?

Agent Coulson

You think ISIS want to mess with The Kinahan's.

Mongfinder General

Agent Coulson wrote: »

You think ISIS want to mess with The Kinahan's.

I'll slap the head off any dirty wizard looking types even thinking of kicking off.

Yamanoto

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Why do you think the most experienced counter-terrorism force in Europe would be unable to respond exactly?

Because unlike most other forces in Western Europe, first responders in Ireland have received zero training in how to deal with an unfolding terrorist incident.

They'd respond alright, just not as effectively as they could. No fault of the Gardai btw - they've been calling for such training for a considerable time.

super_furry

Mongfinder General wrote: »

I'll slap the head off any dirty wizard looking types even thinking of kicking off.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Its not imminent but it will happen eventually. Probably within the next 5 years

Thank you for sharing your expert opinion with us.:D

Neon_Lights

Sensationalist threads are sensational...

Where would they even attack, all our landmarks are ****e, even the spire.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Think it is imperative that the Gardai begin working with the PSNI on issues that could involve such an attack here. The PSNI has more experience in dealing with urban civilian terrorism than practically any other force in the world. It would be foolish of us in the South to not tap into that well of knowledge and capability for the benefit of people down here.

Set up a number of armed and intelligence gathering units that are a blend of man power from both Police forces. Who would then have autonomy under both jurisdictions.

At the very least it would lay the groundwork for greater cooperation in Police work on the island as a whole, and at most it could help save lives.

Why do you think the PSNI have more experience?

yermanoffthetv

Although I don't think an attack is imminent its certainly possible and think the authorities should be taking some small practical steps like retractable bollards in pedestrian areas and better stab vests and training for patrolling guards. I think more effective gains would be made from better information sharing with other jurisdictions and adequate trained staff to process it. From what I have read the guards and defence forces have met and discussed how they would cooperate in such an event. I'm sure they have developed and practiced drills even if they haven't broadcast the fact. It would be no harm having more armed support units in Dublin on duty at any one time, if not to deal with a terrorist attack then to deal with the greater imminent threat of the drug cartels.

suicide_circus

Yes, an imminent attack of heartburn after 8 cans and a spice bag.

EagererBeaver

No.

CalamariFritti

While some people seem to think that all muslims have some sort of 'sleeper' gene in them that may turn them into killing lunatics at any point I believe in cause and effect mostly. I mean you couldn't rule it out, people who do that kind of stuff have fairly twisted minds. But why Ireland? We're not bombing the middle east. We're not known to have muslim ghettos or discrimination issues. We don't have any muslim population to speak of.
Is is rather unlikely I'd say.

super_furry

But, but, but deh hate our freedooms!

BuilderPlumber

Agent Coulson wrote: »

You think ISIS want to mess with The Kinahan's.

It would be great to these 2 drug dealer organisations go to war and see the Kinahans win.

Syphonax

Attack in Dublin? no. Shannon maybe, I would say the attacks in England are seen as attacks on these Islands

bigpink

How are all these middle eastern and aisans getting into Ireland?

EagererBeaver

bigpink wrote: »

How are all these middle eastern and aisans getting into Ireland?

Via a plane or a ferry I imagine.

Syphonax

bigpink wrote: »

How are all these middle eastern and aisans getting into Ireland?

By public transport.

BuilderPlumber

py2006 wrote: »

Eh, what?

ISIS are nonbelievers in anything apart from extortion, violence, world domination, drug dealing, pimping, protection rackets, keeping people oppressed and of course themselves as god. They are an insult to decent Christians (they claim to be part of a breakaway from this), other religions and atheists alike. They are violent filth supported by Saudi Arabian interests who have diplomatic immunity.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

bubblypop wrote: »

Why do you think the PSNI have more experience?

They have been dealing with a civilian terrorist threat like no other in the West over the last 50+ years.

Their members are armed, killed, and have gotten into gun battles. They are adept at eavesdropping on conversations, gathering intel, deploying its bomb squads, dealing with riots of people, manning armed checkpoints, looking for the one suspicious person in a crowd, amongst other things on a level and intensity that doesn't even come near to what the Gardai have had to deal with. We could do with their help on this.

For all the crap that Northern Ireland has caused the rest of this island over time, this is one of the few things, in one of the few areas, that they would add an enormous amount of value to down here.

AndyBoBandy

Neon_Lights wrote: »

Where would they even attack

Wherever the water protesters/AAA are gathering in large enough numbers.

Tigger

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Why do you think the most experienced counter-terrorism force in Europe would be unable to respond exactly?

yeah Spain and Ireland have a lot more experience than most countries

bigpink

Syphonax wrote: »

By public transport.

I meant passports and visas.Limerick has huge influx of men from india pakistan aghantisan etc.And its not high skill workers

py2006

CalamariFritti wrote: »

We're not known to have muslim ghettos or discrimination issues. We don't have any muslim population to speak of.
Is is rather unlikely I'd say.

No ghettos....yet!

No discrimination issues? You sure?

Muslim population increasing

judeboy101

Wait til bucko gets back from his holiday in Egypt

Syphonax

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

ISIS are nonbelievers in anything apart from extortion, violence, world domination, drug dealing, pimping, protection rackets, keeping people oppressed and of course themselves as god. They are an insult to decent Christians (they claim to be part of a breakaway from this), other religions and atheists alike. They are violent filth supported by Saudi Arabian interests who have diplomatic immunity.

U seem confused, google Wahhabism.

EagererBeaver

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

For all the crap that Northern Ireland has caused the rest of this island over time, this is one of the few things, in one of the few areas, that they would add an enormous amount of value to down here.

Sigh. What a load of twaddle.

Syphonax

bigpink wrote: »

I meant passports and visas.Limerick has huge influx of men from india pakistan aghantisan etc.And its not high skill workers

They should fit in and be right at home in Limerick so

py2006

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

ISIS are nonbelievers in anything apart from extortion, violence, world domination, drug dealing, pimping, protection rackets, keeping people oppressed and of course themselves as god. They are an insult to decent Christians (they claim to be part of a breakaway from this), other religions and atheists alike. They are violent filth supported by Saudi Arabian interests who have diplomatic immunity.

Not sure if you confused as to what Atheism is or confused about their religion or I'm the one that isn't reading you right.

For what it's worth, no act of terrorism has ever been done in the name of Atheism. Not that I'm aware of anyway.

BuilderPlumber

Syphonax wrote: »

U seem confused, google Wahhabism.

I am well aware of Wahhabism. It is a cult and for money and total dominance and nothing else. Nonbelievers use such things to control gullible fools. ISIS are a lot of things but one thing they are poor at is being religious. They are nonbelievers in anything other than themselves and their sick 'Bond villain' agenda.

Tigger

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

They have been dealing with a civilian terrorist threat like no other in the West over the last 50+ years.

Their members are armed, killed, and have gotten into gun battles. They are adept at eavesdropping on conversations, gathering intel, deploying its bomb squads, dealing with riots of people, manning armed checkpoints, looking for the one suspicious person in a crowd, amongst other things on a level and intensity that doesn't even come near to what the Gardai have had to deal with. We could do with their help on this.

For all the crap that Northern Ireland has caused the rest of this island over time, this is one of the few things, in one of the few areas, that they would add an enormous amount of value to down here.

The Rsu do all these things and along with special detectives and the ranger wing monitor terrorist threats in this country

bigpink

py2006 wrote: »

No ghettos....yet!

No discrimination issues? You sure?

Muslim population increasing

Already started in Limerick