Is an attack in Dublin imminent?

Jimoslimos

Not meaning to be flippant, but nearly 12 years ago terrorists were setting off coordinated explosions on the Tube and bus network.

These days it takes 3 lads to engage in a bit of driving without due care and attention as well as a bit of swordplay.

I expect in another 10 years that the modus operandi for Islamic terrorists will be Chinese burns and wedgies. This will disappoint the terror fantasists here.

Jimoslimos

Jimoslimos wrote: »

These days it takes 3 lads to engage in a bit of driving without due care and attention as well as a bit of swordplay.

Two weeks ago doesn't count as "these days"?

Jimoslimos

Deleted User wrote: »

Two weeks ago doesn't count as "these days"?

I was talking about London specifically. While Manchester was worrying, the general trend of terrorist attacks throughout Europe has been towards cruder, less sophisticated, non-coordinated, with fewer casualties (say compared to Madrid and London bombings). A couple of outliers aside (Paris and Manchester).

I wouldn't be too worried.

seiphil

No...We are not blowing up their neighborhoods and destroying their countries.

It is really that simple.

Grayson

Jimoslimos wrote: »

Not meaning to be flippant, but nearly 12 years ago terrorists were setting off coordinated explosions on the Tube and bus network.

These days it takes 3 lads to engage in a bit of driving without due care and attention as well as a bit of swordplay.

I expect in another 10 years that the modus operandi for Islamic terrorists will be Chinese burns and wedgies. This will disappoint the terror fantasists here.

Islamism is dying a slow death. Unlike previous terrorist groups these guys want to die. There will always be muslim terrorists because of western involvement in the middle east but this strain of islamism will die out. It's only been around about 15-20 years and it's being fought by every country in the world, including all the muslim one (with the exception of Saudi). Plus they kill themselves off.

As for us being hit by a terrorist attack, it's far more likely to be related to thye north. That place is still a tinderkeg and it could reignite at any time. There's still sectarian riots and killings up there. It's probably the case that brexit and it's effect on the border is more danger than any number of refugees fleeing ISIS.

namloc1980

seiphil wrote: »

No...We are not blowing up their neighborhoods and destroying their countries.

It is really that simple.

Germany isn't bombing the middle East either.

NinetyTwoTeam

No. Boards ppl are so paranoid. It's always, 'oh, this could happen, that could happen'. Muslim terrorists are focused on the US, UK, Germany, France. They know no one gives a toss about us and they don't either. Plus they can't afford to live in Dublin it's like 500 a month to share a BR

Grayson

Jimoslimos wrote: »

I was talking about London specifically. While Manchester was worrying, the general trend of terrorist attacks throughout Europe has been towards cruder, less sophisticated, non-coordinated, with fewer casualties (say compared to Madrid and London bombings). A couple of outliers aside (Paris and Manchester).

I wouldn't be too worried.

That's the main difference between ISIS and Al-Qaeda. Most Al-Qaeda attacks involve people who want to survive the attack. Until Sept 11th Al-Qaeda attacks didn't involve the attackers killing themselves.
ISIS are low tech and don't care about their own survival. They also have completly different aims. There have been groups attacking the west for years but they always had a political aim. Even Al-Qaeda had a political aim. ISIS just want to kill everyone, including muslims, who don't agree with them. They are a cult rather than part of Islam.

Yourself isit

Jimoslimos wrote: »

Not meaning to be flippant, but nearly 12 years ago terrorists were setting off coordinated explosions on the Tube and bus network.

These days it takes 3 lads to engage in a bit of driving without due care and attention as well as a bit of swordplay.

I expect in another 10 years that the modus operandi for Islamic terrorists will be Chinese burns and wedgies. This will disappoint the terror fantasists here.

Why not expect the opposite trajectory? The IRA were primitive to begin with.

Yourself isit

Grayson wrote: »

Islamism is dying a slow death. Unlike previous terrorist groups these guys want to die. There will always be muslim terrorists because of western involvement in the middle east but this strain of islamism will die out. It's only been around about 15-20 years and it's being fought by every country in the world, including all the muslim one (with the exception of Saudi). Plus they kill themselves off.

As for us being hit by a terrorist attack, it's far more likely to be related to thye north. That place is still a tinderkeg and it could reignite at any time. There's still sectarian riots and killings up there. It's probably the case that brexit and it's effect on the border is more danger than any number of refugees fleeing ISIS.

There were very few attacks in the republic during the troubles relatively speaking. The dissidents will be rounded up at the first sign of trouble.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

bubblypop wrote: »

PSNI were only formed after the GFA, & while there were some old ruc officers retained, they basically started again.
And rest assured that Gardai are adept at all the things you listed above.
Oh, & Gardai regularly liase with intelligence services & police forces from all over Europe..

Fair enough. I do have faith that we would have a more than sufficient law enforcement response to any major attack here.

I'm more saying that there are additional resources on the island but not in this state that could be tapped into. And while many PSNI members would fall into the post GFA pool of recruits, I think consulting with them on certain issues would be of a significant benefit. To me, they have too much experience and capability in this area to simply ignore.

seiphil

namloc1980 wrote: »

Germany isn't bombing the middle East either.

Yes they are, and so are Belgium.

May not be big players but they are involved.

Spanish Eyes

I wonder where the kilos of Semtex in the taxi were destined for?

Anyone know?

Grayson

Yourself isit wrote: »

There were very few attacks in the republic during the troubles relatively speaking. The dissidents will be rounded up at the first sign of trouble.

You're saying that internment will come back?

Son Of A Vidic

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Why do you think the most experienced counter-terrorism force in Europe would be unable to respond exactly?

When you have a Commissioner that 'losses' her phone and any potential evidence contained within it, well that doesn't fill one with much confidence. When you have a police force that has demonstrated a penchant for fraudulent spinning stats, just to make it look good & more efficient. Well once again, that doesn't fill one with much confidence. So when the Gardai say that 'they're prepared', then we can be forgiven for raising a skeptical eyebrow and asking...really? Fortunately, I feel this country has nothing to fear from Jihadi loons, because I believe we're well down the list of potential target nations.

Son Of A Vidic

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I wonder where the kilos of Semtex in the taxi were destined for?

Anyone know?

I'm guessing it came from the dissident republicans linked to the Hutch gang, that are trying to strike back at the Kinahan's.

pilly

Burial. wrote:

I'd be shocked if there wasn't an attack here in the next 18 months tbh. And I think the country will come to an absolute standstill.

The whole country will come to a standstill because someone runs over people in Dublin or Cork or wherever.

Don't be so ridiculous.

namloc1980

seiphil wrote: »

Yes they are, and so are Belgium.

May not be big players but they are involved.

You'll have no problem showing me evidence of German military units bombing targets in the Middle East then?

JaCrispy

seiphil wrote: »

No...We are not blowing up their neighborhoods and destroying their countries.

It is really that simple.

Sure most of the terrorists are born in the country they are terrorising.

So you think they're still foreigners then?

BuilderPlumber

py2006 wrote: »

Not sure if you confused as to what Atheism is or confused about their religion or I'm the one that isn't reading you right.

For what it's worth, no act of terrorism has ever been done in the name of Atheism. Not that I'm aware of anyway.

Terrorism is done in the name of extortion and world domination. ISIS = SPECTRE, etc. but real.

Grayson

namloc1980 wrote: »

You'll have no problem showing me evidence of German military units bombing targets in the Middle East then?

both countries are in Nato. I don't know if you know much about it but one of the key points is Article 5. Article 5 says that an attack against one is an attack against all. It's only been used once and that was after Sept 11th. NATO went into Afghanistan. Belgium troops were in afghanistan until at least 2016 (I don't know if they're still there) and Germans were there for a long time too.

I believe that belgium also had peace keepser in Lebanon although that isn't really what we're talking about and doesn't really make them a target. I still thought it was worth mentioning.

Yourself isit

Grayson wrote: »

You're saying that internment will come back?

Internment never went away. I pointed this out in one of my previous posts - and to you.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Jimoslimos wrote: »

Not meaning to be flippant, but nearly 12 years ago terrorists were setting off coordinated explosions on the Tube and bus network.

These days it takes 3 lads to engage in a bit of driving without due care and attention as well as a bit of swordplay.

I expect in another 10 years that the modus operandi for Islamic terrorists will be Chinese burns and wedgies. This will disappoint the terror fantasists here.

Are you really serious?

A fantasist would be someone who imagines Islamic terrorists will be attacking the UK in 10 years time with Chinese burns and wedgies. That is literally a best case scenario and is complete fantasy.

There was a bombing there last week involving children. To think there won't be more bombs with multiple fatalities is fantasy.

The London bus bombings was basically the start of it. The attack last night will just be one line in a long line of Islamic attacks in the UK.

The reality is that attacks attributed to Islamic extremism will continue. The fantasy is in thinking that they will not.

Royal Legend

well we had Jihadi Jane and some kind of financial supporter of ISIS here in Waterford over the last few years, no doubt that there are more sympathizers here in Waterford alone, not to mind other urban areas, only take one loon to try to make a point.

Captain Obvious

Yourself isit wrote: »

Internment never went away. I pointed this out in one of my previous posts - and to you.

Don't think you understand what internment is.

BuilderPlumber

Syphonax wrote: »

On the flip side, they are also fighting the foreign polices and armies of America and the UK, who, lets face it, shouldnt be in there in the first place, they have brought this effectively upon themselves, and the rest of us.

Sadly, Western imperialism has always given these criminals a cause. We know it here with dissident republicanism and ISIS are latching onto it too. The conduct of America and other Western powers over the last 70 plus years is hardly what one could call kindly. Actions such as dropping 2 nuclear bombs destroying 2 cities, dropping Napalm on civilians, blaming a country's president for a terrorist attack it never did and invading it, etc. are hardly exemplary actions. They are atrocious acts actually. ISIS are a horrid organisation dedicated to organised crime and world domination. But America and co are giving these criminals a cause they don't deserve.

begbysback

No chance of an incident here, can understand the fear being generated by such incidents close to us, but you have to remember, US, UK, France and Germany are targeted for precise reasons - of which Ireland does not fall under.

namloc1980

Grayson wrote: »

both countries are in Nato. I don't know if you know much about it but one of the key points is Article 5. Article 5 says that an attack against one is an attack against all. It's only been used once and that was after Sept 11th. NATO went into Afghanistan. Belgium troops were in afghanistan until at least 2016 (I don't know if they're still there) and Germans were there for a long time too.

I believe that belgium also had peace keepser in Lebanon although that isn't really what we're talking about and doesn't really make them a target. I still thought it was worth mentioning.

The poster claimed German units were bombing the Middle East just looking for his/her evidence for same. Should be easy to find if it exists?

Ireland also has had peace keepers in Lebanon. Worth mentioning? Ireland is part of NATO partnership for peace and facilitates American military in Shannon. That makes us at least an enabler for military campaigns in the middle East.

kirving

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Yeah, we've only had terrorists in Ireland for 150 years, what knowhow would the Gardai have?

He did say Knowhow, Capabilities and Resources.

The knowhow is there I'm sure, the Gardai aren't stupid and certainly have vast experience in terrorism, albeit of a different kind.

However, they have nowhere near the Resources or Capabilities of the Met.

NIMAN

I honestly don't think we will be targeted any time soon.

France, Belgium, UK and Germany have been hit because they either have involvement in ME military attacks or have a huge Islamic population.

We have neither.