Is an attack in Dublin imminent?

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JCX BXC wrote: »

That is an extremely serious remark to make, and I can infact ensure you that Shannon has the most rigourous security of all airfields in the country. Security in terminal conforms with both EASA and FAA standards, something which is not matched by any airport across Europe.

What evidence do you have to back this assertion up? More completely unjustified remarks from you, bordering on the inflammatory.

And in regards the two wannabe hippy politicians, anyone can get a rope and cross a fence, or cut a hole in the fence as others have done, it's how far you get after crossing it that counts, and this distance has never been far.

Margaretta Darcy a 80 year old Women trespass into Shannon airport and if that is not poor security ?.

JCX BXC

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Margaretta Darcy a 80 year old Women trespass into Shannon airport and if that is not poor security ?.

Would you please reply to or acknowledge my remarks? You may find your answer there! You cannot build a 20ft wall, or an electric fence, to keep these loonies out. Security is strong enough to apprehend trespassers very quickly.

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JCX BXC wrote: »

How about you read my point and process it? Anyone can get a ladder and climb a fence, or get some widely available clippers and clip the fence. How do you prevent that? 20ft high stone walls? An electric fence?

Trespassers are apprehended extremely swiftly if they breach the protected areas. Have you any evidence that says otherwise?

Extremely dangerous remark to make, doubting the security protocols of a highly secure area without knowing the slightest about the operation.

The security boxes as you enter Shannon airport is not manned 24/7 rest my case?.

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JCX BXC wrote: »

Would you please reply to or acknowledge my remarks? You may find your answer there! You cannot build a 20ft wall, or an electric fence, to keep these loonies out. Security is strong enough to apprehend trespassers very quickly.

Margaretta Darcy a 80 years of age Women did this twice in Shannon airport.

Galwayguy35

Garda organisation says they have not received adequate training to deal with terror threats, a security expert on Prime Time lists the reasons why we're not prepared and a Muslim Imam on the same show says Ireland is a haven for Radicals but FG wheel out some nobody who says he "doesn't accept any of this"

Earlier on Enda was asked they same thing at some party he was going to and he said all was grand no need to worry.

There might be a need to worry if we have to explain to the Brits how some radical used our country as a way to attack theirs or worse again if something happens here.

Annasopra

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Say that to Mick Wallace & Clare DALY & And the five anti war protester who damaged a us military war plane at Shannon airport in 2003?.

Can't take you seriously raising an issue that was 14 years ago. Have you any proof it is lax today?

Wibbs

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Garda organisation says they have not received adequate training to deal with terror threats, a security expert on Prime Time lists the reasons why we're not prepared and a Muslim Imam on the same show says Ireland is a haven for Radicals but FG wheel out some nobody who says he "doesn't accept any of this"

Earlier on Enda was asked they same thing at some party he was going to and he said all was grand no need to worry.

Ireland is one of the biggest soft touches in Europe and is most certainly seen as that by all sorts of dodgy elements from organised crime to radicals of all stripes.

Yourself isit

_Brian wrote: »

I think this post gets right to the heart of what is being seen.

The likes of France and the U.K. Have a horrific colonial past, many of their citizens involved in these problems are citizens through the colonial past.
But rather than being treated as equals they are hoarded into slums, poorly treated, excluded from education and employment.These are the breeding grounds for radicalisation.
It's not impossible that something will happen here, I feel it's unlikely.

None of that is happening. Groups create their own ghettoes. And plenty of non white immigrants do well in education. Indians in particular.

Esel

Don't expect much/any logic in phTY's posts.

Yourself isit

please helpThank YOU wrote: »

Shannon airport is 100 per cent the number Target in Ireland not Dublin.

Isis isn't targeting military targets. I'm surprised you got a response. Why would isis target children's shows in Britain and not airfields but then target Shannon here?

py2006

Folks, the reality is we really don't know nor can we predict where crazy fundamentalists will attack. There could be a 4 year old starting school here this year who will get radicalised and decide to blow himself up at 16 in Croke Park. Hopefully not but we can't say what they will do or where. Crazy people don't go by logic.

weldoninhio

AzcuzCoz wrote: »

I don't recall, but was security stepped up here after two 767's hit the Twin Towers? After tubes and a bus was blown up in London? After all the chaos that has gone on in France the past three years?

I don't remember back then, but I know that after the Bataclan/French football attack (Ireland were playing Bosnia in the first round of the Euro playoffs that Friday). The second leg was in Dublin the following mid-week.

I was heading to it and was going straight from work. I met a friend at the Audi Centre in Ballsbridge and had a cup of tea, waited for him to get changed, had a look at the cars etc. and was getting antsy because I had a backpack with me and thought there'd be huge security to get in.

We got there about 10 mins before kick-off and I'd accepted that we'd probably miss the first 10-15 minutes. Got to the stadium, not stopped once, bag wasn't even patted down, never mind opened. I could have had anything from a bomb, to a 12 pack of beer, to a bag full of flares etc. No security whatsoever. I found that quite chilling, seeing how easy it would have been to harm so many people if someone was that way inclined.

Sam Kade

py2006 wrote: »

Folks, the reality is we really don't know nor can we predict where crazy fundamentalists will attack. There could be a 4 year old starting school here this year who will get radicalised and decide to blow himself up at 16 in Croke Park. Hopefully not but we can't say what they will do or where. Crazy people don't go by logic.

Also the media needs to shut the fcuk up about how open Ireland is for an attack, brainless idiots.

weldoninhio

Jesus Wept wrote: »

I know a few. They are all sound.

"A week before he and two other men climbed aboard a rented white Renault van and set off to attack London Bridge, Khuram Butt was hanging out with his neighbours at a barbecue to watch the FA Cup final."


"The gym he attended, the Ummah Fitness Centre, on the first floor of a small shop, caters predominantly for Muslims. Kick-boxing and sparring are popular. Staff there said Butt was a regular, working out two or three times a week, and once brought his young son along. One employee recalled him as ?very friendly?."

This lad seemed sound too.

seachto7

Sam Kade wrote: »

Also the media needs to shut the fcuk up about how open Ireland is for an attack, brainless idiots.

Not like it's anything new. Anjem Choudary pointed it out years ago, so don't think his followers aren't aware...

The_Kew_Tour

_Brian

You got to remember they are coming to this country by choice.

Nobody is forcing them here. They can go home if they like.

Why should our Tax Paying money be going to them.

Would they do the same? Hell they would

jmayo

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Why do you think the most experienced counter-terrorism force in Europe would be unable to
respond exactly?

Why does is bullshyte continously spewed out.

Are you seriously saying we have had more experience than the British, you know the ones that actually had to operate in Northern Ireland, had attacks on it's parliament, had an attack on it's government, had attacks on it's military throughout Europe?
And who have been delaing with islamist terrorism for the last 12/15 years.

Are you saying we have more experience than the Spanish who had to fight ETA for decades and have had to face islamist terrorist attacks ?

Most experience my ar**.
Yes we had the PIRA, one of the most successful terrorist organisations in the world, but were they not under orders not to really attack us.

Yep we had the odd assassination, the odd bank job, the odd kidnapping, the odd horsenapping and bombs in Dublin and Monaghan due to some other organisations/possibly state.

But really we never had the continous heightened threat others have had to deal with daily.

So stop talking bullshyte.

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Yeah, we've only had terrorists in Ireland for 150 years, what knowhow would the Gardai have?

150 years ???
Can you please tell us when the Garda came into existence?

Also how many of the Gardai that were inolved in anti terrorism in the haydays of the 70s, 80s and indeed 90s are still in the force ?

And then could you tell us how many of the Garda speak Arabic or are muslim ?

suicide_circus

Having some access to inside knowledge on the subject, I can tell you that GNIB cards are being passed around like relay batons. Enormous fraud and identity sharing.

jmayo

Sam Kade wrote: »

Also the media needs to shut the fcuk up about how open Ireland is for an attack, brainless idiots.

The problem is we are totally unprepared and it's a bit like the bank deposit guarantee.
The bank deposit guarantee was something like 20k, which was ridiculous, and nothing was done about it until people started screaming on Liveline.

Then of course some in authority and "our betters" were complaining we were drawing bad attention to it and basically shut up and get your heads back in the sand.

As roy keane once said "fail to prepare, prepare to fail".

If we don't tighten security, have more armed police on ready standby, have better trained normal police, have better intelligence, have more and better emergency services and more resources in hospitals then when an attack of some does occur, and something will inevitably happen, we are much better prepared.

Besides doing a lot of those things will also improve our daily quality of life such as access to emergency healthcare, better security and less violent crime.

Tenzor07

Gardai from the provo era are long since retired..

Security procedures for the Garda haven't changed since the 1970's

Remove the need for a detective Garda to have to run through 4 years of working as a normal uniformed officer.

Recruit specialist officers with I.T skills..No Garda or army intelligence officer can speak Arabic or any other middle eastern or Islamic countries languages...Recruit language specialists also...

Cee-Jay-Cee

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

I believe it is possible and that Gardai wouldn't be anywhere next or near capable of handling such an incident. They would be able to handle the whole aftermath but as for reacting to an ongoing incident, they don't have the know how, capabilities or resources to deal with something like happened in London last night especially if it happened abywhere other than Dublin. It would be pandemonium..............

In London there were 3 attackers, they killed 7, 48 were treated in hospital and 21 were critical.

I would be fairly sure if anything similar happened in an Irish City AGS would respond and 3 knife wielding looneys would be battered senseless or shot in a simialar timescale to London.

Widdershins

weldoninhio wrote: »

"A week before he and two other men climbed aboard a rented white Renault van and set off to attack London Bridge, Khuram Butt was hanging out with his neighbours at a barbecue to watch the FA Cup final."


"The gym he attended, the Ummah Fitness Centre, on the first floor of a small shop, caters predominantly for Muslims. Kick-boxing and sparring are popular. Staff there said Butt was a regular, working out two or three times a week, and once brought his young son along. One employee recalled him as ?very friendly?."

This lad seemed sound too.

That's often the case. Neighbours interviewed after attacks generally seem to describe the attackers as polite or friendly. Well, they would be, wouldn't they?

As someone pointed out, they're not black-caped Hollywood style villains. They look and seem normal (although sometimes, in hindsight, people say the jihadist did seem to have become more religious/pious in the weeks before the attack, but nobody thought much about it at the time), they don't advertise their hateful opinions of the Western way of life to all and sundry, they could hold down jobs and interact like everyone else (someone mentioned an Islamist killing in France I think, where the Islamist killed his own boss!).
You don't know what's going on in someone's head. That applies to most killers, as well as Islamist killers. I think that's what scares people, the fact that your workmate or neighbour who seems nice could be planning to do something like the Manchester or London attackers.

jmayo

Augeo wrote: »

In London there were 3 attackers, they killed 7, 48 were treated in hospital and 21 were critical.

I would be fairly sure if anything similar happened in an Irish City AGS would respond and 3 knife wielding looneys would be battered senseless or shot in a simialar timescale to London.

Would you like to bet your life or your families lives on it ?

Do you reckon that the attackers would be shot in 8 minutes ?

And where exactly would the 48 injured be transported to ?

Oh yeah the nearest A&E department where they could join the queue or be left on a trolley at the door. :rolleyes:

Some people seriously don't get how fooking unprepared we are for a large emergency situation be it a terrorist attack or even a large accident of some sort.

Further Irish arrests expected

https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0607/880772-rachid-redouane-irish-investigation/

weldoninhio

Widdershins wrote: »

That's often the case. Neighbours interviewed after attacks generally seem to describe the attackers as polite or friendly. Well, they would be, wouldn't they?

As someone pointed out, they're not black-caped Hollywood style villains.

I understand that. I was replying to the person that said they know loads of Muslims in Ireland and that they are "all sound".

gizmo81

I don't think they should be giving people a warning, could force them to act.

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Further Irish arrests expected

https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0607/880772-rachid-redouane-irish-investigation/

ScumLord

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

_Brian

You got to remember they are coming to this country by choice.

Nobody is forcing them here. They can go home if they like.

Why should our Tax Paying money be going to them.

Would they do the same? Hell they would

But.. If they come here and get a job, pay taxes, wouldn't their money be doing the exact same thing as anyone elses?

Widdershins

weldoninhio wrote: »

I understand that. I was replying to the person that said they know loads of Muslims in Ireland and that they are "all sound".

Yep...that was basically a long-winded ''+1''

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Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Can't take you seriously raising an issue that was 14 years ago. Have you any proof it is lax today?

911 New York was 16 years ago world trade center attacks ? . plus that Lady of 80 years of age Margaretta Darcy she was Jailed for blocking two flights from landing at Shannon airport in `October 2012 that is just 5 years ago.

AnGaelach

ScumLord wrote: »

But.. If they come here and get a job, pay taxes, wouldn't their money be doing the exact same thing as anyone elses?

The key word there being "if". Non-EU migrants have a lower labour force participation rate than natives/EU-migrants.