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Why are our Gardai "soft" looking?

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  • #212
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    What the hell!


  • #213
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Northerngal wrote: »
    it's obvious you have a members agenda from shaggin them,

    Are agendas like STD's now? I use to go out with a vegetarian. Does that mean I might have caught it from her? Is that why I'm not so fond of rashers anymore?


  • #214
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There's a difference between intimidation and being capable of taking care of oneself. I don't want Gardai going around beating people up or threatening people, it's that they can defend themselves and us properly.


  • #215
    Northerngal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 65 ✭✭Northerngal


    Is it lies???(I'll happily edit if so)
    Didn't you mention here on boards you've had members for supper and even got a lift in a marked car and chips?

    You keep stepping past anything I add because it doesn't fit your views, you think the sun shines out of AGS

    Sorry to break it to ya, but AGS isnt trusted by the public!


  • #216
    Winterlong
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    People with multiple convictions don't like the Gardai - shocker!


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  • #217
    Northerngal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 65 ✭✭Northerngal


    Winterlong wrote: »
    People with multiple convictions don't like the Gardai - shocker!

    Jog- on white knight, unless you have something to of substance to add

    Where did I say I don't like them, I WANT to trust them not like them!

    I've answered everything honestly and am being civil, I've ask multiple questions no answers, some people will defend AGS to the hilt but know nothing about how dodge AGS are!


  • #218
    Boom_Bap
    Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    Northerngal
    Please do not bring peoples private lives and discussion from other threads/forums into this thread.

    Please be civil to others here.


  • #219
    Winterlong
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    Northerngal wrote: »
    Jog- on white knight, unless you have something to of substance to add

    I've answered everything honestly and am being civil

    The irony! You are not presenting your argument very well to be honest.


  • #220
    Gravelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,094 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    Winterlong wrote: »
    The irony! You are not presenting your argument very well to be honest.

    This may be the understatement of the week.


  • #221
    Northerngal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 65 ✭✭Northerngal


    Winterlong wrote: »
    The irony! You are not presenting your argument very well to be honest.

    How haven't I?


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  • #222
    bunderoon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭bunderoon


    A certain section of the Guards do great work. There's no doubt there.

    But yes, you can see the failings in others. From the top, right down to the boots on the ground.

    I remember being in a lock-in (First and last time) and the guards came in. The first reaction was for everyone to roar and cheer. Not fear and 'oh ****, we are in for it now'. And I think that response sums up the general attitude towards the force.
    I've been all round Europe and most of the police look like soldiers. It they arrived during the lock in, I would put any money on it that the response would be totally different.
    By the way, no one was charged and about 30 names were taken. Hence the lack of fear.


  • #223
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,036 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    bunderoon wrote: »
    A certain section of the Guards do great work. There's no doubt there.

    But yes, you can see the failings in others. From the top, right down to the boots on the ground.

    I remember being in a lock-in (First and last time) and the guards came in. The first reaction was for everyone to roar and cheer. Not fear and 'oh ****, we are in for it now'. And I think that response sums up the general attitude towards the force.
    I've been all round Europe and most of the police look like soldiers. It they arrived during the lock in, I would put any money on it that the response would be totally different.
    By the way, no one was charged and about 30 names were taken. Hence the lack of fear.


    do you think that is a good thing? hit first and ask questions later.


  • #224
    Django99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Django99


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    do you think that is a good thing? hit first and ask questions later.

    There's probably a happy medium in there. A police force should be fit and mobile, be well trained in self defence and restraint. People shouldn't have any fear of police, but they should respect them and definitely should see them as figures of authority. It's of course extremely difficult to hit this happy medium and most places will end up on one extreme or the other sadly.

    As an aside, the police a lot of us see abroad are in city centres, where there's parliaments, train stations, large crowds etc. I'm sure out in the sticks in other countries they've got the same types we have here.

    I'd also have to say I couldn't say too much negative about any personal experiences with Gardai. They do seem reasonably well able to look after themselves. Definitely a lack of respect for them in certain areas though.


  • #225
    Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    bunderoon wrote: »
    A certain section of the Guards do great work. There's no doubt there.

    But yes, you can see the failings in others. From the top, right down to the boots on the ground.

    I remember being in a lock-in (First and last time) and the guards came in. The first reaction was for everyone to roar and cheer. Not fear and 'oh ****, we are in for it now'. And I think that response sums up the general attitude towards the force.
    I've been all round Europe and most of the police look like soldiers. It they arrived during the lock in, I would put any money on it that the response would be totally different.
    By the way, no one was charged and about 30 names were taken. Hence the lack of fear.

    What would you have wanted to happen differently?

    Come in with guns drawn? Batons out? Pepper spray? Riot gear on? Ready to fuck sh1t up?

    You expect 30 people to be charged with the offence of drinking a beer? In Ireland? - The law is there to stop pubs from abusing the licensing system, it is not and should not be there to criminalise ordinary people.

    The courts and prisons are clogged up enough without trivial crap like drinking a beer in a place a couple of hours after you were meant to stop.

    Licensing laws in this country are a joke anyway.


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