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Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread VIII - ** MOD NOTE POST #4781 **

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    #5372
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Jump_In_Jack wrote: »
    Oh good, semantics.
    Replace "don't care" with "will choose without compunction".

    No, because even “without compunction” doesn’t make sense. You’re talking about the difference in making 6 figures v. making next to nothing. It’s a completely rational decision when you have a large family and your wage can pay the cost of living of an entire town.


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    #5373
    Jump_In_Jack
    Registered Users Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭Jump_In_Jack


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Jump_In_Jack wrote: »
    Oh good, semantics.
    Replace "don't care" with "will choose without compunction".

    No, because even “without compunction” doesn’t make sense. You’re talking about the difference in making 6 figures v. making next to nothing. It’s a completely rational decision when you have a large family and your wage can pay the cost of living of an entire town.

    What are you even complaining about?
    All this is well known.


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    #5374
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Jump_In_Jack wrote: »
    What are you even complaining about?
    All this is well known.

    It doesn't look good when you basically have to fall back to saying "It's a fact" or "all of this is well known".

    You're saying it's well known that they don't care about playing for their country. Which you cannot possibly know. Any islanders I've played with have been very proud of their heritage.


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    #5375
    Jump_In_Jack
    Registered Users Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭Jump_In_Jack


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Jump_In_Jack wrote: »
    What are you even complaining about?
    All this is well known.

    It doesn't look good when you basically have to fall back to saying "It's a fact" or "all of this is well known".

    You're saying it's well known that they don't care about playing for their country. Which you cannot possibly know. Any islanders I've played with have been very proud of their heritage.

    All of the islanders you played with would have had no compunction about playing for another country if it set them up financially.
    It's not a criticism.
    It doesn't need to be sugar coated.
    It is what it is.
    Fact of life.


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    #5376
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Jump_In_Jack wrote: »
    All of the islanders you played with would have had no compunction about playing for another country if it set them up financially.
    It's not a criticism.
    It doesn't need to be sugar coated.
    It is what it is.
    Fact of life.

    I'd imagine they care about it deeply if they had to do it. As I do any of the guys who do it, including the guys who've done it for us. There's no way you don't feel guilty if you are standing there in another countries jersey facing off against your own. I have no idea why you think it's such a stone cold fact they don't feel any guilt about it.


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    #5377
    Jump_In_Jack
    Registered Users Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭Jump_In_Jack


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Jump_In_Jack wrote: »
    All of the islanders you played with would have had no compunction about playing for another country if it set them up financially.
    It's not a criticism.
    It doesn't need to be sugar coated.
    It is what it is.
    Fact of life.

    I'd imagine they care about it deeply if they had to do it. As I do any of the guys who do it, including the guys who've done it for us. There's no way you don't feel guilty if you are standing there in another countries jersey facing off against your own. I have no idea why you think it's such a stone cold fact they don't feel any guilt about it.

    Now you're the one bringing in judgements to your point.
    Why do you assume they should feel guilt?
    I don't.


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    #5378
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Jump_In_Jack wrote: »
    Now you're the one bringing in judgements to your point.
    Why do you assume they should feel guilt?
    I don't.

    The vast majority of people grow up with desires of representing their country, and feel some association with them. It's a fact, it's just the way it is.


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    #5379
    Jump_In_Jack
    Registered Users Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭Jump_In_Jack


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Jump_In_Jack wrote: »
    Now you're the one bringing in judgements to your point.
    Why do you assume they should feel guilt?
    I don't.

    The vast majority of people grow up with desires of representing their country, and feel some association with them. It's a fact, it's just the way it is.

    That's all true.
    By the way, why do you assume they would feel guilt about looking after their family?


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    #5380
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Jump_In_Jack wrote: »
    That's all true.
    By the way, why do you assume they would feel guilt about looking after their family?

    This is what is called an irrelevant conclusion.

    They wouldn't be guilty about looking after their family at all.


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    #5381
    Jump_In_Jack
    Registered Users Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭Jump_In_Jack


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Jump_In_Jack wrote: »
    That's all true.
    By the way, why do you assume they would feel guilt about looking after their family?

    This is what is called an irrelevant conclusion.

    They wouldn't be guilty about looking after their family at all.

    What would you call all the irrelevant scoldings about using the word "care" carelessly?


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    #5382
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Jump_In_Jack wrote: »
    What would you call all the irrelevant scoldings about using the word "care" carelessly?

    You were the one who used the word care...

    Anyway, doesn't seem to be any worthwhile point being made here so I'm out


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    #5383
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,176 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    This is the debating equivalent of fencing with sponges.


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    #5384
    [Deleted User]
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    Four caps into his international career Ryan is already better than O'Connell was at his peak


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    #5385
    Neil3030
    Registered Users Posts: 17,013 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Four caps into his international career Ryan is already better than O'Connell was at his peak

    Fair point. Well made.


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    #5386
    tooManyChoices
    Closed Accounts Posts: 98 ✭✭tooManyChoices


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Four caps into his international career Ryan is already better than O'Connell was at his peak
    Sure O'Connell is just another one of those Irish starters that wouldn't be good enough to make the Leinster squad.

    Team for the 6N:
    1. Jordan Larmour
    2. Jordan Larmour
    3. Jordan Larmour
    etc...


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    #5387
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,176 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Four caps into his international career Ryan is already better than O'Connell was at his peak

    That was a done deal before he even got on the plane to USA.


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    #5388
    salmocab
    Registered Users Posts: 11,296 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Four caps into his international career Ryan is already better than O'Connell was at his peak

    Ryan is old hat now, what we need is another savior.


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    #5389
    D14Rugby
    Registered Users Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭D14Rugby


    salmocab wrote: »
    Ryan is old hat now, what we need is another savior.

    I introduce to you the one, the only, Jordan Larmour


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    #5390
    salmocab
    Registered Users Posts: 11,296 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    D14Rugby wrote: »
    I introduce to you the one, the only, Jordan Larmour

    Ah stop he has been around for weeks at this stage


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    #5391
    swiwi_
    Registered Users Posts: 4,479 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    D14Rugby wrote: »
    I introduce to you the one, the only, Jordan Larmour

    Genuine Q, how do your pronounce his name?? If I was printing t-shirts with throwaway lines, would it be

    1) I love Jordan L'amour?
    2) or Jordan Llama - spitting image of Christian Cullen?
    3) or Jordan Larmour - sponsored by Under Armour?

    In any case, he looks a rare attacking talent, that was a Cullen-esque wee burst to set up that try for Leinster vs Dragons.


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    #5392
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,076 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    Genuine Q, how do your pronounce his name?? If I was printing t-shirts with throwaway lines, would it be

    1) I love Jordan L'amour?
    2) or Jordan Llama - spitting image of Christian Cullen?
    3) or Jordan Larmour - sponsored by Under Armour?

    In any case, he looks a rare attacking talent, that was a Cullen-esque wee burst to set up that try for Leinster vs Dragons.

    It doesn't matter cos you're gonna say it wrong anyway :P

    Its 3) above BTW.


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    #5393
    molloyjh
    Registered Users Posts: 24,745 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Four caps into his international career Ryan is already better than O'Connell was at his peak

    Sure it’s a well known fact. :D


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    #5394
    molloyjh
    Registered Users Posts: 24,745 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    L’amour is the new Tré-C.


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    #5395
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,176 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    It's 3i hombre


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    #5396
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,199 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    tooManyChoices wrote: »
    Sure O'Connell is just another one of those Irish starters that wouldn't be good enough to make the Leinster squad.

    Team for the 6N:
    1. Jordan Larmour
    2. Jordan Larmour
    3. Jordan Larmour
    etc...
    Never was a user name so apt. :D


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    #5397
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    molloyjh wrote: »
    L’amour is the new Tré-C.

    leaving-now-grandpa-simpsons.gif?ssl=1


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    #5398
    swiwi_
    Registered Users Posts: 4,479 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    With a nod to Dean Martin

    "When a man steps your man like Christian Cullen
    That's Larmour, eh."

    And for our Kiwi posters

    "When a man steps your man like Christian Cullen
    That's Larmour, eh bro."


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    #5399
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    With a nod to Dean Martin

    "When a man steps your man like Christian Cullen
    That's Larmour, eh."

    And for our Kiwi posters

    "When a man steps your man like Christian Cullen
    That's Larmour, eh bro."

    Is it nighttime where you are and are you drunk?


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    #5400
    vienne86
    Registered Users Posts: 17,075 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    Anyone else trying to renew their Irish Rugby supporters club membership? Website is rubbish, and I can't log in with Chrome......got there eventually with Explorer.....which I haven't used for years.


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    #5401
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,176 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    With a nod to Dean Martin

    "When a man steps your man like Christian Cullen
    That's Larmour, eh."

    And for our Kiwi posters

    "When a man steps your man like Christian Cullen
    That's Larmour, eh bro."


    Just like Cullen (Christian)
    Like this it will scan
    That's Larmour, hey

    He makes graceful Rob Kearney
    Look like Mary Harney
    That's Larmour, hey


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