US considering Preemptive Strike against North Korea.

The_Valeyard

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Kim: shoot some engineers

and a few generals... 'pour encourager les autres'

sad but probably true.

CoolHandBandit

Security expert on CNN stated this morning he wouldn't be surprised to see another missile attempt within the next 24hrs.

The Backwards Man

They should start launching them at night so no one will see if they fail.

osarusan

It works for this thread too:

osarusan wrote: »

First footage of bomb emerges.

Cheerful Spring

I would not rule out sabotage, or a cyber attack as reasons for why the missile blew up. I would not rule out either this missile was deliberately blown up by the North Koreans themselves. It was fired to send a message to Trump ( a warning shot) Be open to all possibilities.

Gatling

Apparently most of the missle wreckage fell into the yellow sea and has been recovered by south korea and the US ,

Beyondgone

Gatling wrote: »

Apparently most of the missle wreckage fell into the yellow sea and has been recovered by south korea and the US ,

Lucky them. They can copy the technology.

Noddyholder

Gatling wrote: »

Apparently most of the missle wreckage fell into the yellow sea and has been recovered by south korea and the US ,

Will kimwongwank head not want it back for scrap metal to build another

I have seen wars started for less I tell ya

archer22

Never mind Kim Jong Un is just a young fella and like all young fellas he likes playing with high risk stuff whether it be motorbikes or fast cars etc, or in his case missiles and nukes. Wouldn't worry too much about him, he will probably grow out of it.

However what does worry me is an auld fella like Trump playing with missiles, superbombs and aircraft carriers...he is old enough to know better and there is poor chances of him growing out of it...more than likely just get worse as senility begins to set in

Estrellita

archer22 wrote: »

Never mind Kim Jong Un is just a young fella and like all young fellas he likes playing with high risk stuff whether it be motorbikes or fast cars etc

Yeah, he's just a wee scamp sure.




.... with very dangerous toys

archer22

Gatling wrote: »

Apparently most of the missle wreckage fell into the yellow sea and has been recovered by south korea and the US ,

Oh really!!...it takes them months or years or maybe never to recover a plane that falls into the sea but they can recover a missile in 2 or 3 hours :rolleyes:

Just shows that this is all FAKE NEWS!

CoolHandBandit

Gatling wrote: »

Apparently most of the missle wreckage fell into the yellow sea and has been recovered by south korea and the US ,

The drums of war beat loud and clear.

The mental gymnastics from some in this thread are massively impressive.

CoolHandBandit

archer22 wrote: »

Oh really!!...it takes them months or years or maybe never to recover a plane that falls into the sea but they can recover a missile in 2 or 3 hours :rolleyes:

Just shows that this is all FAKE NEWS!

An agenda is being formed. Like i said yesterday it wouldn't surprise me if no missile was at all fired.

Noddyholder

archer22 wrote: »

Never mind Kim Jong Un is just a young fella and like all young fellas he likes playing with high risk stuff whether it be motorbikes or fast cars etc, or in his case missiles and nukes. Wouldn't worry too much about him, he will probably grow out of it.

However what does worry me is an auld fella like Trump playing with missiles, superbombs and aircraft carriers...he is old enough to know better and there is poor chances of him growing out of it...more than likely just get worse as senility begins to set in

So now your comparing your hero to be just like all young fellas :rolleyes::rolleyes:

You wouldn't worry to much about him test firing & threatening everyone around him just like his loony father before him :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Would you able to post like this in beloved your China or ****hole NK ?

archer22

Noddyholder wrote: »

So now your comparing your hero to be just like all young fellas :rolleyes::rolleyes:

You wouldn't worry to much about him test firing & threatening everyone around him just like his loony father before him :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Would you able to post like this in beloved your China or ****hole NK ?

Are you really so bog thick that you did not realise that post was tongue in cheek :eek:

The_Valeyard

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The mental gymnastics from some in this thread are massively impressive.

Think we've moved beyond that into the space time continuum

Noddyholder

archer22 wrote: »

Are you really so bog thick that you did not realise that post was tongue in cheek :eek:

:D:D Tongue in cheek from the likes of you me arse :P:P

Gatling

Gatling wrote: »

Apparently most of the missle wreckage fell into the yellow sea and has been recovered by south korea and the US ,

If the US & SK can retrieve the debris so quickly, it clearly shows that the missile was fired into either SK waters or international water, either way really provocative action by NK. Somehow, I don't buy it as the US & SK naval ships would have to have been very (too) close to the NK shoreline.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39614428
The US and China are working on a "range of options" on North Korea, the US top security adviser has said, as tensions mount over the country's nuclear and missile programmes.

Lt Gen HR McMaster told ABC News there was consensus with China that this was a "situation that just can't continue".

The comments come after a failed missile test launch by North Korea and a massive military parade.

President Trump had earlier said China was "working with us" on the issue.

Looks like Trump wants to keep the Chinese on side.

Noddyholder

Gatling wrote: »

Apparently most of the missle wreckage fell into the yellow sea and has been recovered by south korea and the US ,

Where you here that sir, I cant find any links anywhere...

Noddyholder

Deleted User wrote: »

Looks like Trump wants to keep the Chinese on side.

And the Chinese want to keep the yanks onside to, None of them big powers want a war with each other, There be no winners if them lads go at it, No matter what little keyboard warriors say here.

Plus with China causing tension with all its neighbours in the East China Sea from Japan to Vietnam by flexing harder than the rest on its claims to vast swathes of disputed oceans. Maybe there is some deal being done behind the scenes like Kennedy done with Khrushchev in the Cuban missile crisis,

Suppose one can only wonder.

https://www.google.es/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjP6JKXnanTAhWBnRoKHQywDXkQFggvMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCuban_Missile_Crisis&usg=AFQjCNHGoWVeS8g_PwfVv4u2uN38b8R9Ig

Gatling

archer22 wrote: »

Oh really!!...it takes them months or years or maybe never to recover a plane that falls into the sea but they can recover a missile in 2 or 3 hours

Big size difference but hey we're not talking about a passenger plane are we

Timberrrrrrrr

Gatling wrote: »

Big size difference but hey we're not talking about a passenger plane are we

It also helps that this missile would have been watched/tracked from before it's launch and crafts would have been in the area.

Gatling

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

It also helps that this missile would have been watched/tracked from before it's launch and crafts would have been in the area.

This is also true

The_Valeyard

Would the Chinese just activate their protocol and make Korean generals change the regime to a more insular and less attention seeking government.

Gatling

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Would the Chinese just activate their protocol and make Korean generals change the regime to a more insular and less attention seeking government.

It's possible they could also annex the whole north and declare it Chinese territory which I'd be surprised they haven't tried at some point ,been they have been there since the war started

Noddyholder

Gatling wrote: »

It's possible they could also annex the whole north and declare it Chinese territory which I'd be surprised they haven't tried at some point ,been they have been there since the war started

Because the risks outweigh the benefits. First of all, North Korea doesn't have the economy or the resources to benefit China in any meaningful way. Second of all, if the invasion lasts any more than few months with rapid collapse of poorly fed NK military, China will suffer heavy economic and human costs.

If the people of NK view Chinese as conquerors as oppose to liberators, things will get ugly very quickly. Thirdly, South Korea and perhaps the U.S. will certainly get involved - neither countries want China in North Korea.

Sending weapons, supplies and perhaps "volunteer" soldiers to North Korea for sure - perhaps even a direct involvement, which can make NK into a quagmire. Lastly, North Korea does have nuclear bombs, and while it's questionable whether they have the delivery capabilities,

Beijing/Shanghai aren't very far - and NK might be crazy enough to blow up couple Chinese cities even if it means their utter destruction in nuclear retaliation. Chinese economy and trade will certainly suffer greatly and for what?

The benefit of extending China's territory by about 5% and absorb fiercely independent, hungry, and probably rebellious 20 million people - who by the way China will have to feed.

It'll take a very serious provocation on the NK's part for China to feel the need to invade. North Korea may be a crazy dog, but it still listens to China more than any other nation.

https://www.google.es/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjmtcfxtKnTAhWDPxQKHf4WCucQFggnMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.quora.com%2FWhy-doesnt-China-simply-take-over-North-Korea-Why-doesn%25E2%2580%2599t-China-attempt-regime-change-in-North-Korea-2014%25E2%2580%259317&usg=AFQjCNFU32ag3rzJMfmfDx55Mmfuyf9JlQ

The_Valeyard

Gatling wrote: »

It's possible they could also annex the whole north and declare it Chinese territory which I'd be surprised they haven't tried at some point ,been they have been there since the war started

Probably just easier to have a proxy country do some of the dirty work for you.

dasdog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vn57jxF9Ow

Skipping through yesterdays military parade. The goose-stepping is so enthused it looks painful. And kim looks totally bored. It really is bizarre.