Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

The real mccoy 91

Floyd via DQ

Gamebred wrote:

Yeah easily if he had of went boxing with his work ethic and fundamentals he'd of been a success,

Gamebred wrote:

Pro boxing is littered with human punch bags Canelo and GGG look at their records 90&% of their wins and stoppages are roofers and part time security men.

Do you really think it's as easy as "oh I think I wanna be a boxer and become a world champion?" I don't care who it is and how hard they work it is just not that easy. Yes mcgregor can throw a decent punch but that doesn't automatically make you world champion class.

Right take ggg in his last say 5 fights he stopped kell Brook and handed him his first loss aswell as handing wade Martin Murray and willie Monroe Jr the first tkos of their careers. Long story short one punch will get you nowhere and mcgregor is nowhere near good enough defensively and and at protecting himself to make waves in any boxing division

Gamebred

Floyd via KO-TKO

The real mccoy 91 wrote: »

Do you really think it's as easy as "oh I think I wanna be a boxer and become a world champion?" I don't care who it is and how hard they work it is just not that easy. Yes mcgregor can throw a decent punch but that doesn't automatically make you world champion class.

Right take ggg in his last say 5 fights he stopped kell Brook and handed him his first loss aswell as handing wade Martin Murray and willie Monroe Jr the first tkos of their careers. Long story short one punch will get you nowhere and mcgregor is nowhere near good enough defensively and and at protecting himself to make waves in any boxing division

Well GGG isnt 40 years old off for 2 years and with no ko power? were not talking about a fight with big hitters here Mayweather doesnt hit hard McGregor is the only one who would be winning via ko/tko here, and with a non bias ref he could win on points imo.

Gamebred

Floyd via DQ

Gamebred wrote: »

.............McGregor's................ if he went the boxing route he'd be world champion now easily.

He wouldn't make the Irish Olympic team.

Gamebred

Floyd via KO-TKO

Augeo wrote: »

He wouldn't make the Irish Olympic team.

We are hypothetically speaking, I cant say for 100% certain he would've same way you cant say he wouldn't of, his timing in particular lead me to believe he'd of went far on that alone to match his work ethic.

Burial.

Floyd via DQ

McGregor got beaten up pretty soundly in sparring by a welterweight who was fed and destroyed by a young Errol Spence. Now Spence will eventually become a massive name in the sport but it was a pretty routine win for him, nothing outstanding. Conor has no chance in a standard Boxing fight. Listening to Rogan and Schaub comment on how McGregor has a chance just shows how stupid a lot of the MMA diehards are and how ignorant they are towards Boxing. It was the same crap with Rousey. Conor just isn't a good boxer by Boxing standards. "Oh but if he lands", dumb f*ck Floyd has been hit flush less than five times his whole career against a tonne of HOFers. How is he going to land? "Oh but Floyd hasn't knocked anyone out in years". Raw power isn't the only way to stop someone. Floyd is deadly accurate and no matter how good your chin is, when you're being pasted over and over again by a boxer who is 100 levels above you, you can easily be pulled out of there. If Conor landed a clean jab on Floyd I'd be thoroughly impressed. For the sake of the health of the two sports I hope this farce never happens.

The real mccoy 91

Floyd via DQ

Gamebred wrote:

Well GGG isnt 40 years old off for 2 years and with no ko power? were not talking about a fight with big hitters here Mayweather doesnt hit hard McGregor is the only one who would be winning via ko/tko here, and with a non bias ref he could win on points imo.

For starters floyd isn't quite 40 yet but you were the one that brought that "he'd be a world champion now easily" I didn't say floyd would knock him out but he would pick him off as he pleases and win easily mayweather has fought much bigger punchers than mcgregor and made them look silly.

Gamebred

Floyd via KO-TKO

Floyds 40 off for 2 years and has no power, wouldnt be a walk over lads stop dreaming he'd be clinched up by McGregor and eat hayemakers like Maidana did.

Burial.

Floyd via DQ

Gamebred wrote: »

Floyds 40 off for 2 years and has no power, wouldnt be a walk over lads stop dreaming he'd be clinched up by McGregor and eat hayemakers like Maidana did.

You're the one dreaming. How in the world is Conor McGregor going to clinch Floyd? Just lol if you think inside game in MMA is applicable to inside game in Boxing. Inside fighting is incredibly hard to master in Boxing, something few if any ever accomplish. McGregor cannot even do the basics in Boxing properly, let alone tie up and work a defensive wizard like Floyd in the inside.

Gamebred

Floyd via KO-TKO

Burial. wrote: »

You're the one dreaming. How in the world is Conor McGregor going to clinch Floyd? Just lol if you think inside game in MMA is applicable to inside game in Boxing. Inside fighting is incredibly hard to master in Boxing, something few if any ever accomplish. McGregor cannot even do the basics in Boxing properly, let alone tie up and work a defensive wizard like Floyd in the inside.

What basics cant he do? he would one punch ko anyone near his weight in boxing if his left hand from the combat gods landed, Brook Thurman Broner Garcia.

Burial.

Floyd via DQ

Gamebred wrote: »

What basics cant he do? he would one punch ko anyone near his weight in boxing if his left hand from the combat gods landed, Brook Thurman Broner Garcia.

What basics can he do? McGregor has a non-existent jab, something needed against any top boxer but especially Floyd. He has no proper defence, he seems to roll his head back to try and avoid punches which is suicide against a proper boxer. He leaves his hands out too long after he punches, that won't work against arguably the best counterpuncher of all time. He has no body attack. McGregor's foot movement is not suited to Boxing at all, that MMA/karate movement sh*t will not work in a square ring. Floyd is very evasive, some of the best men at cutting off the ring couldn't get to him, just how does McGregor cut off the ring? You cannot walk Floyd down as he is gone before you even begin to set a rhythm. Floyd is not a D level boxer with limited boxing ability like Mendes and Alvarez. Floyd took punches from much bigger punchers than McGregor and took them well. And again, how does McGregor land on him? How does he set up the left hand? Seriously, enlighten me and maybe you can tell Manny Pacquiao, De La Hoya, Cotto, Hatton and many more who simply had no idea either back then or now. The old one in a million shot just doesn't happen against a guy like Floyd, it just doesn't.

Henno30

It's astonishing that people think McGregor would have a snowball's chance in hell against Mayweather or Pacquiao or anyone similar. People just don't get how many levels there are in boxing, and that McGregor is a complete novice.

Guys like Floyd, Pacquiao, Marquez are certified hall of fame level. The most significant fighters of their generation.

Beneath them you have elite level champions, Crawford, Golovkin, Bradley, Lomachenko, Ward, Kovalev. These guys beat everyone else and may be hall of famers themselves someday.

Then you have top contenders/title holders. Guys who have belts but who have never ruled a division and are not going to be amongst the very best of their era.

Then you have fringe contenders, the guys fighting eliminators and working their way towards a shot at one of the alphabet belts.

Then you have the 'continental title' guys. The European/intercontinental/NABF/OPBF type guys who are maybe top 20-25 in their division. They'll never win a 'world' title unless a promoter has a crazy plan or they get hold of a WBU type title.

Beneath them you have a lot of 'international level' guys. They are in the 30-70/80 ranking bracket depending on the the division. Strong domestic level fighters who beat similar level journeymen from overseas. May get a continental title some day and may be brought in for tune-ups.

Now you're at 'domestic level'. Normally part-timers. Good amateurs who may have won national titles and even been on national teams. Fill the lower spots on undercards at York Hall and the like.

And finally you have the 'club level' fighter. Ordinary guys with a bit of talent who fight similar lads from other parts of the country. This is the level Conor McGregor would fit in at. He would have less skill than most of the guys he faces, but as an elite athlete he would outlast a lot of them. Would probably KO a few but would get knocked down plenty himself. With a lot of work he could climb to the national title level.


This is why it's so laughable to boxing fans to hear people talk about Mayweather vs McGregor. The distance between the two is enormous. It could never be spanned. It's way beyond a mismatch, it's a circus act.

The real mccoy 91

Floyd via DQ

Gamebred wrote:

What basics cant he do? he would one punch ko anyone near his weight in boxing if his left hand from the combat gods landed, Brook Thurman Broner Garcia.

Basics won't get you very far you can't judge how good of a boxer he would be by fighting mma. It's such a different ball game how would his movement be in a ring as opposed to an octagon? How would gloves suit him? What happens when he is backed into a corner? Broner is very average he wouldn't beat thurman or Brook let alone mayweather.

Gamebred

Floyd via KO-TKO

Burial. wrote: »

What basics can he do? McGregor has a non-existent jab, something needed against any top boxer but especially Floyd. He has no proper defence, he seems to roll his head back to try and avoid punches which is suicide against a proper boxer. He leaves his hands out too long after he punches, that won't work against arguably the best counterpuncher of all time. He has no body attack. McGregor's foot movement is not suited to Boxing at all, that MMA/karate movement sh*t will not work in a square ring. Floyd is very evasive, some of the best men at cutting off the ring couldn't get to him, just how does McGregor cut off the ring? You cannot walk Floyd down as he is gone before you even begin to set a rhythm. Floyd is not a D level boxer with limited boxing ability like Mendes and Alvarez. Floyd took punches from much bigger punchers than McGregor and took them well. And again, how does McGregor land on him? How does he set up the left hand? Seriously, enlighten me and maybe you can tell Manny Pacquiao, De La Hoya, Cotto, Hatton and many more who simply had no idea either back then or now. The old one in a million shot just doesn't happen against a guy like Floyd, it just doesn't.

You are going on like hes in his prime though, you need to get your head around the fact father time hits everyone the gods dont care how good you are when the body cant do what the mind is telling it you get hurt.

The real mccoy 91

Floyd via DQ

"but wow Floyd was hard to hit. I couldn't of hit him with a handful of confetti" Ricky Hatton

Gamebred

Floyd via KO-TKO

Yeah a prime Floyd against a party animal with no discipline not hard to see why that happened really Hatton wasnt a proper athlete fighting a Rusty 40 year old.

Burial.

Floyd via DQ

Gamebred wrote: »

You are going on like hes in his prime though, you need to get your head around the fact father time hits everyone the gods dont care how good you are when the body cant do what the mind is telling it you get hurt.

Floyd hasn't taken much if any punishment his entire career. He's one of the cleanest living athletes and extremely professional. Doesn't drink and doesn't smoke and never has. Do you think Floyd just hung up the gloves and hasn't stepped foot in his gym since September? Floyd still looks in the same shape as he was when he was actively fighting, he's still training. What evidence of father time knocking is there? He still looked the fastest and the smartest fighter in the world a year and a half ago at his last fight. Father time just doesn't go "beep beep times up". It's a gradual thing, something that hasn't effected Floyd much if at all.

And besides we're not talking about him fighting an elite guy or an up and coming young guy with the basic fundamentals down and an actual punchers chance. We're talking about a guy who couldn't become Irish Boxing champion if he tried. We're talking about a guy that was cannon fodder for a complete journeyman in sparring. I'm still waiting for an answer on see how McGregor even closes the distance on Floyd, let alone land a clean shot.

Burial.

Floyd via DQ

Gamebred wrote: »

Yeah a prime Floyd against a party animal with no discipline not hard to see why that happened really Hatton wasnt a proper athlete fighting a Rusty 40 year old.

This kid actually thinks McGregor is better than a prime Ricky Hatton. Jesus this is tragic lads.

Henno30

Burial. wrote: »

This kid actually thinks McGregor is better than a prime Ricky Hatton. Jesus this is tragic lads.

McGregor is significantly inferior to a post-prime Matthew Hatton.

price690

Lads I am amazed that you all took the bait I really am.

There's no way that MMA poster isn't being tongue in cheek in his comments or else on a wind up.

I mean there's simply no debate to be had about it. Steven Donnell comprehensively beats Mcgregor. The guy wouldn't win an Irish title let alone beat Mayweather.

What happens when he lands? Landing on Eddie Alvarez or the like is all well and good, doing the same to a pro boxer (let alone one who hasn't been caught flush by some future HOFers) is just not happening.

The guy got a boxing licenice in California to show his bosses at the UFC that he has options other than them. When he gets one in Nevada maybe it's indicative of a future fight.

I'd imagine it's Mayweather chasing the fight really, $100million for the biggest mismatch of his career. That definitely sounds like a Mayweather move.

McGregor is engaged in a power play with his bosses probably looking for shares, and is keeping himself in the news with his antics with Mayweather who himself probably fancies an easy nights work for huge money.

Anyone who even thinks there's a slight chance of a McGregor upset must have been dropped on their head, even his most loyal waistcoat wearing, man bun sporting swaggering fans do not believe he would have a hope.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

Henno30 wrote: »

y.

And finally you have the 'club level' fighter. Ordinary guys with a bit of talent who fight similar lads from other parts of the country. This is the level Conor McGregor would fit in at. He would have less skill than most of the guys he faces, but as an elite athlete he would outlast a lot of them. Would probably KO a few but would get knocked down plenty himself. With a lot of work he could climb to the national title level.

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How would he at this time outlast them? MMA cardio and boxing cardio are not he same. Without specific boxing training I am not sure how you can say he outlasts them.

Henno30

price690 wrote: »

I'd imagine it's Mayweather chasing the fight really, $100million for the biggest mismatch of his career. That definitely sounds like a Mayweather move.

McGregor is engaged in a power play with his bosses probably looking for shares, and is keeping himself in the news with his antics with Mayweather who himself probably fancies an easy nights work for huge money.

Doubt Floyd is chasing it. He's just entertaining the hype. For Conor it's about engineering some negotiating leverage, but even at that it seems like a waste of time.

Gamebred

Floyd via KO-TKO

So much delusion here, Floyd was a great boxer but hes old now and looking for a payday camp wont be easy making weight wont be easy and someone with ko power from the combat gods throwing bombs wont be easy, McGregor's reach and timing would certainly cause him some trouble,

When was the last time he hurt anybody with a punch? Dont remember him even dropping Canelo Pac Berto once? fighting bums like the ghost Guerrero not a hope in hell he would stop McGregor.

Burial.

Floyd via DQ

Gamebred wrote: »

Floyd is 40 with brittle hands, hasnt fought in ages its also harder to do a fight camp aged 40 and get down to weight so far that reason alone I think Conor beats him,


He's always struggled with heavy punchers like Maidana ect hasnt ko'd anybody since the sucker punch of Ortiz, McGregors style would cause him serious trouble I'd expect McGregor's left hand to ko Mayweather in 6, hes used to 5min rounds in mma so the 3minute ones would increase his power output.

Gamebred wrote: »

Firstly I believe the fight will happen too much money on the table for all parties involved,


Floyd is a great defensive fighter but he hasnt hurt anybody with a single punch in years he'd try jab his way to victory but McGregor's left hand is one of the the best shots in combat sports history if he went the boxing route he'd be world champion now easily.

Gamebred wrote: »

Floyd is 40 wont have fought in 2 years hasnt trained in the mean time hes an old man now reflexes slowing time waits for no man.

Gamebred wrote: »

Yeah you're not a professional athlete, McGregor has every chance of ko'ing Floyd look at Roy Jones plenty of mma fighters would beat him once they get old a prime pro mma athlete would work them, same happens here McGregor would land for sure and it be over if he lands early, Floyd is also much smaller.

Gamebred wrote: »

Yeah easily if he had of went boxing with his work ethic and fundamentals he'd of been a success,


Pro boxing is littered with human punch bags Canelo and GGG look at their records 90&% of their wins and stoppages are roofers and part time security men.

Gamebred wrote: »

Well GGG isnt 40 years old off for 2 years and with no ko power? were not talking about a fight with big hitters here Mayweather doesnt hit hard McGregor is the only one who would be winning via ko/tko here, and with a non bias ref he could win on points imo.

Gamebred wrote: »

We are hypothetically speaking, I cant say for 100% certain he would've same way you cant say he wouldn't of, his timing in particular lead me to believe he'd of went far on that alone to match his work ethic.

Gamebred wrote: »

Floyds 40 off for 2 years and has no power, wouldnt be a walk over lads stop dreaming he'd be clinched up by McGregor and eat hayemakers like Maidana did.

Gamebred wrote: »

What basics cant he do? he would one punch ko anyone near his weight in boxing if his left hand from the combat gods landed, Brook Thurman Broner Garcia.

Gamebred wrote: »

You are going on like hes in his prime though, you need to get your head around the fact father time hits everyone the gods dont care how good you are when the body cant do what the mind is telling it you get hurt.

Gamebred wrote: »

Yeah a prime Floyd against a party animal with no discipline not hard to see why that happened really Hatton wasnt a proper athlete fighting a Rusty 40 year old.

Gamebred wrote: »

So much delusion here

Indeed...

The real mccoy 91

Floyd via DQ

Gamebred wrote:

So much delusion here, Floyd was a great boxer but hes old now and looking for a payday camp wont be easy making weight wont be easy and someone with ko power from the combat gods throwing bombs wont be easy, McGregor's reach and timing would certainly cause him some trouble,

Gamebred wrote:

When was the last time he hurt anybody with a punch? Dont remember him even dropping Canelo Pac Berto once? fighting bums like the ghost Guerrero not a hope in hell he would stop McGregor.

Where's the evidence that he's not still great? He could make someone miss fighting them in a phonebox. Won't be easy making weight? He never went under or over 5 pounds of his fighting weight and you only had to look at him last Saturday to see that this is still true. Do you think he has never fought someone with a better reach than him? And as good as you think McGregor's timing is its nothing compared to the speed and intelligence of Mayweathers defence.
Again your backtracking and going back to knocking him out I don't see many promising a floyd knock out here what we are all in agreement with is that Floyd would completely outclass mcgregor and make him miss therefore frustrating mcgregor and making him look like a fool that he has done to many better boxers than mcgregor before

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

Gamebred wrote: »

When was the last time he hurt anybody with a punch? Dont remember him even dropping Canelo Pac Berto once? fighting bums like the ghost Guerrero not a hope in hell he would stop McGregor.

I think you are trolling, but anyway, I reckon McGregor stops himself by gassing with hitting thin air. Mayweather could be restricted to 10 punches per rd and he'd still get the KO, either by himself via punches or by Conor gassing and collapsing.

DrPhilG

price690 wrote: »

Lads I am amazed that you all took the bait I really am.

There's no way that MMA poster isn't being tongue in cheek in his comments or else on a wind up.

Bingo.

See that lost of boxing ability a few posts back, from HOF down to club level?

Take a guess where Gamebred fits on the same scale for trolling.

Please don't judge all us MMA fans by his opinions.

Gamebred

Floyd via KO-TKO

Burial. wrote: »

Indeed...

DrPhilG wrote: »

Bingo.

See that lost of boxing ability a few posts back, from HOF down to club level?

Take a guess where Gamebred fits on the same scale for trolling.

Please don't judge all us MMA fans by his opinions.

Give it a rest Gordo,


Because someone thinks Mayweather is beatable they are ''trolling'' gtfo,



Look at Wlad father time has caught him nearly the same age as Floyd and could hardly throw a punch against Fury completely gone to the pack, are you telling me he abused his body over his career?

Nope.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

Gamebred wrote: »

Give it a rest Gordo,


Because someone thinks Mayweather is beatable they are ''trolling'' gtfo,



Look at Wlad father time has caught him nearly the same age as Floyd and could hardly throw a punch against Fury completely gone to the pack, are you telling me he abused his body over his career?

Nope.

Mayweather being beatable isn't the issue, it's claiming an MMA/Non boxer does it is what's the issue. Conor would be lucky to win a novice Irish tile...

Frank Bullitt

Floyd via DQ

Gamebred wrote: »

So much delusion here, Floyd was a great boxer but hes old now and looking for a payday camp wont be easy making weight wont be easy and someone with ko power from the combat gods throwing bombs wont be easy, McGregor's reach and timing would certainly cause him some trouble,

When was the last time he hurt anybody with a punch? Dont remember him even dropping Canelo Pac Berto once? fighting bums like the ghost Guerrero not a hope in hell he would stop McGregor.

You are aware that all of the fighters that Mayweather has beaten (all 49 of them) would maul McGregor as well, right?

As much as I like Conor, he is after money, thats all. Floyd can have this commissioned as a pro fight and he can waltz to 50-0 without breaking sweat.

The issue that people don't understand is the sheer size of the gulf of talent between the 2.

This video (ignore the music) shows the difference betwen him and a pro, so multiply that by an infinite number and you get the difference between him and Mayweather.

As its been said though, I dont actually think you are serious when you try and stick up for Conor. No sane man could be.

Gamebred

Floyd via KO-TKO

The problem with that video is hes still sparring in mma mode changes stances ect in preparation for a bout with a south paw 6ft fighter in mma with a long reach and height on him, different story fighting a smaller fighter with zero power and less reach, give him a year with or so nothing but boxing and he give Floyd the old boy a hell of a fight, the 3 minute rounds will suit him much better as he can be explosive then rest and go again instead of 5 minute rounds in mma.