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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

  • 12-01-2017 1:26pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭degsie


    So, this is looking more likely to be on the cards sooner rather than later...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/38591420

    Any opinion on who would win this potential fight?



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    Who wins and how? 700 votes

    Floyd on points
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    Floyd via KO-TKO
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    Floyd via DQ
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    Conor on points
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Floyd via DQ
    Who would win? The two men's bank accounts and the promoters. Anyone paying to watch this is a fool.

    Pure freak show nonsense that has nothing to do with the sport of boxing.

    Under MMA rules McGregor beats him in two minutes. Under boxing rules then Floyd makes him look an absolute fool.

    There is no mystery about MMA v. Boxing anymore; they're totally different sports.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Well, Conor wins here no matter what. He gets to fight the most bankable athlete on earth, who also happens to fight quite scared, so even losing I think Conor may not get as huts compared to say fighting Manny.

    I'd be very surprised if this went past 4 rds, even taking into account Mayweather fighting scared. He would nail Conor frequently, and with enough for to hurt him, and stop him


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Complete joke. Would probably watch though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,209 ✭✭✭maximoose


    Floyd via DQ
    degsie wrote: »
    So, this is looking more likely to be on the cards sooner rather than later...

    Still don't think it's anything more than the two of them keeping themselves in the headlines.

    Not gonna happen IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,616 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    FTA69 wrote: »
    Who would win? The two men's bank accounts and the promoters. Anyone paying to watch this is a fool.

    Pure freak show nonsense that has nothing to do with the sport of boxing.

    Under MMA rules McGregor beats him in two minutes. Under boxing rules then Floyd makes him look an absolute fool.

    There is no mystery about MMA v. Boxing anymore; they're totally different sports.

    Bang on the money. I'm a huge MMA fan but McGregor wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell in a boxing match. Only thing I disagree with in that post is that I'd give Mayweather a better shot in MMA than I would McGregor in boxing.

    The fact is that McGregor should destroy him in MMA, but knowing him he would try and turn an MMA match into a boxing match by standing and trading shots with Floyd.

    Look at the Couture vs Toney fight from a few years ago. Couture humiliated Toney, because he fought the way an MMA fighter should against a boxer. Trip takedown from way out, quick submission on the ground. If Couture stood and boxed with Toney he would have been KO'd. I wouldn't put it past McGregor to stay standing in an MMA fight too.

    Then again that kind of arrogance and bad planning was what cost him the first Diaz fight, but the second time they fought he stuck to a sensible gameplan, so who knows.

    PS, he ain't doing it for $15M though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    Floyd via DQ
    Interesting watching the Sparring of McGregor and Chris van Heerden....
    In the interview afterwards, Van Heerden respectfully points out that McGregor would be no match for a top 20 Boxer's power...



    This wouldn´t be a boxing fight.. it would be over inside the first round..

    And Mayweather isn´t going to do MMA according to what he says here... He also hates fighting without gloves...

    5min 45 minutes into the interview...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Floyd is wealthy beyond limits. Why does he need to be guaranteed 100 million to beat up a non boxer? The guy is rather odd, isn't he. Would 50 million not be enough?:eek: What exactly is he trying to prove...

    Do it for free, Floyd. What's the harm....easy night no matter what.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Bang on the money. I'm a huge MMA fan but McGregor wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell in a boxing match. Only thing I disagree with in that post is that I'd give Mayweather a better shot in MMA than I would McGregor in boxing.

    The fact is that McGregor should destroy him in MMA, but knowing him he would try and turn an MMA match into a boxing match by standing and trading shots with Floyd.

    Look at the Couture vs Toney fight from a few years ago. Couture humiliated Toney, because he fought the way an MMA fighter should against a boxer. Trip takedown from way out, quick submission on the ground. If Couture stood and boxed with Toney he would have been KO'd. I wouldn't put it past McGregor to stay standing in an MMA fight too.

    Then again that kind of arrogance and bad planning was what cost him the first Diaz fight, but the second time they fought he stuck to a sensible gameplan, so who knows.

    PS, he ain't doing it for $15M though.

    I'd agree with the notion of mcgregor in an mma fight wanting to win via strikes but to say that'd mean he'd turn it into a boxing match is a tad naive.

    I'd have Conor destroying mayweathers lead leg with kicks and then prob a ko via a head kick or perhaps finishing a dazed mayweather with punches and then claiming to have outboxed him.

    Either way this is a freak show.

    I'd be highly doubtful of the takedown/submission route as look at all the stick Micky Gall got for doing just that to CM Punk.

    In boxing it's a handy mayweather win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,616 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    I'd be highly doubtful of the takedown/submission route as look at all the stick Micky Gall got for doing just that to CM Punk.

    Not quite the same. Gall could have beaten Punk standing OR on the ground with a hand tied behind his back.

    I just mean that in the Couture Toney fight, it was the quickest and smartest way to win. Standing with Toney would have been daft, especially since Couture never had the kicking game that McGregor does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Floyd via DQ
    Mickey Gall is a real fighter in fairness, wouldn't take him too lightly. H


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    FTA69 wrote: »
    Mickey Gall is a real fighter in fairness, wouldn't take him too lightly. H

    Him and 1000s of others. There are novice boxers all over Ireland who would be far too good for Conor. Some people don't seem to realise that Conor is not a practicing boxer.

    I realise that Gall is MMA


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    FTA69 wrote: »
    Mickey Gall is a real fighter in fairness, wouldn't take him too lightly. H

    100% agree and he's a young fella on the rise so it was a logical fight by him. Win handy and take zero damage or risk.

    It's just lighting someone up with strikes will always trump a submission in a highlight reel. One could argue Gall missed out on that opportunity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,276 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Floyd via DQ
    Money May would not be happy being the B side of that thread title I tells ya.

    Look forward to more weeks/months of this as both men keep themselves relevant and in the public eye while not competing.

    If this circus does happen it will be an easy nights work for Mayweather, obviously, and probably a non too damaging night for McGregor also. Not like he is going to be eating many haymakers from Floyd anyway.

    It would be a brilliant excercise in relieving fools of their money more then anything, and I am sure there is collusion going between to two camps to stoke interest in it.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭SHOVELLER


    Well its certainly gaining traction and cannot be discounted due to the potential enormous sums involved.

    Dana White has today offered Floyd & Conor $25m each plus PPV cut so the negotiations have begun.

    I'm not a fan of MMA but a huge fan of McGregor and what he has done. Over here he is a hero but agree it is a complete freakshow.

    Boxing wise it is a complete embarrassment and only one winner and cant see Floyd agreeing to roll around on the floor.

    It needs to happen this year as the public will get bored plus Floyd is 40 next month.

    Never say never.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    SHOVELLER wrote: »
    Well its certainly gaining traction and cannot be discounted due to the potential enormous sums involved.

    Dana White has today offered Floyd & Conor $25m each plus PPV cut so the negotiations have begun.

    I'm not a fan of MMA but a huge fan of McGregor and what he has done. Over here he is a hero but agree it is a complete freakshow.

    Boxing wise it is a complete embarrassment and only one winner and cant see Floyd agreeing to roll around on the floor.

    It needs to happen this year as the public will get bored plus Floyd is 40 next month.

    Never say never.

    Think I'll say never. It makes sense for Floyd. It makes some sense for Conor. It makes no sense at all for the UFC. They're not going to let their brand be tarnished by a circus act like this.

    The UFC have huge power over their fighters and Conor has been constantly looking for new sources of negotiating leverage. He's going down a blind allery here, however, as doing this fight would mean he's out of the UFC for good.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Floyd is 40 with brittle hands, hasnt fought in ages its also harder to do a fight camp aged 40 and get down to weight so far that reason alone I think Conor beats him,


    He's always struggled with heavy punchers like Maidana ect hasnt ko'd anybody since the sucker punch of Ortiz, McGregors style would cause him serious trouble I'd expect McGregor's left hand to ko Mayweather in 6, hes used to 5min rounds in mma so the 3minute ones would increase his power output.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭The real mccoy 91


    Floyd via DQ
    Gamebred wrote:
    Floyd is 40 with brittle hands, hasnt fought in ages its also harder to do a fight camp aged 40 and get down to weight so far that reason alone I think Conor beats him,

    Gamebred wrote:
    He's always struggled with heavy punchers like Maidana ect hasnt ko'd anybody since the sucker punch of Ortiz, McGregors style would cause him serious trouble I'd expect McGregor's left hand to ko Mayweather in 6, hes used to 5min rounds in mma so the 3minute ones would increase his power output.


    You seem to be forgetting the fact that Floyd is one of if not the best defensive fighter and is so good at not getting hit.

    I'm a believer that the fight won't happen but if it did I don't see Mayweather losing the unbeaten tag. Don't think it'd be much of a spectacle as it would be way over hyped and I can see Mayweather staying out of range and picking mcgregor off as he pleases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,928 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Floyd via DQ
    Gamebred wrote: »
    Floyd is 40 with brittle hands, hasnt fought in ages its also harder to do a fight camp aged 40 and get down to weight so far that reason alone I think Conor beats him,


    He's always struggled with heavy punchers like Maidana ect hasnt ko'd anybody since the sucker punch of Ortiz, McGregors style would cause him serious trouble I'd expect McGregor's left hand to ko Mayweather in 6, hes used to 5min rounds in mma so the 3minute ones would increase his power output.
    This is the craziest thing I've ever read in my entire life.

    Floyd would absolutely toy with McGregor. A number of Irish amateur boxers would too.

    If I had to predict how it goes I'd say McGregor gets stopped on his feet within 5. Floyd will land at will all fight long.

    It's all irrelevant though. The fight won't happen.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Morrison J wrote: »
    This is the craziest thing I've ever read in my entire life.

    Floyd would absolutely toy with McGregor. A number of Irish amateur boxers would too.

    If I had to predict how it goes I'd say McGregor gets stopped on his feet within 5. Floyd will land at will all fight long.

    It's all irrelevant though. The fight won't happen.


    Firstly I believe the fight will happen too much money on the table for all parties involved,


    Floyd is a great defensive fighter but he hasnt hurt anybody with a single punch in years he'd try jab his way to victory but McGregor's left hand is one of the the best shots in combat sports history if he went the boxing route he'd be world champion now easily.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Conor via DQ
    Henno30 wrote: »
    Think I'll say never. It makes sense for Floyd. It makes some sense for Conor. It makes no sense at all for the UFC. They're not going to let their brand be tarnished by a circus act like this.

    The UFC have huge power over their fighters and Conor has been constantly looking for new sources of negotiating leverage. He's going down a blind allery here, however, as doing this fight would mean he's out of the UFC for good.
    The UFC have made plenty of decisions which could potentially tarnish their brand in recent months. Since the takeover they have been annoying hardcore fans with their made up interim belts and creating a logjam in the 145 and 155 divisions while they let McGregor do whatever the hell he wants to do.

    The new owners paid huge money and it seems they are looking to recoup that money fairly sharpish with big mega fights trumping championship fights. The UFC would make many millions if McGregor and Mayweather ever do fight. I can't see why they wouldn't want it to go ahead.

    Also I don't really understand your last line. Why would he be out of the UFC for good if he took this fight?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Morrison J wrote: »
    Floyd would absolutely toy with McGregor. A number of Irish amateur boxers would too.

    I have said this too. And not even the cream of Irish amateurs. When are folks going to realise that Conor is not competing in boxing. He may have some fundamentals, but you could say that about any capable man training in boxing. I have several lads in my own club that are not near a high standard, but would be more than capable against Conor in boxing.

    Conor's only hope is a Hail Mary KO. Other than this he hasn't an ounce of talent that would be needed to be competitive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Gamebred wrote: »

    Floyd is a great defensive fighter but he hasnt hurt anybody with a single punch in years he'd try jab his way to victory but McGregor's left hand is one of the the best shots in combat sports history if he went the boxing route he'd be world champion now easily.

    Utter nonsense. I could say the same about 1000s of men on the street who can throw a KO shot...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Floyd via DQ
    Gamebred wrote: »
    McGregor's left hand is one of the the best shots in combat sports history if he went the boxing route he'd be world champion now easily.

    I didn't actually believe there were people out there who really thought this :eek:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Floyd is 40 wont have fought in 2 years hasnt trained in the mean time hes an old man now reflexes slowing time waits for no man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Gamebred wrote: »
    Floyd is 40 wont have fought in 2 years hasnt trained in the mean time hes an old man now reflexes slowing time waits for no man.

    But what's that got to do with do with Conor's glaring deficiencies?

    Should I seek a Mayweather fight too? Maybe some other ex boxers here could give it a crack...

    FTA, how about you?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Yeah you're not a professional athlete, McGregor has every chance of ko'ing Floyd look at Roy Jones plenty of mma fighters would beat him once they get old a prime pro mma athlete would work them, same happens here McGregor would land for sure and it be over if he lands early, Floyd is also much smaller.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Gamebred wrote: »
    Yeah you're not a professional athlete, McGregor has every chance of ko'ing Floyd look at Roy Jones plenty of mma fighters would beat him once they get old a prime pro mma athlete would work them, same happens here McGregor would land for sure and it be over if he lands early, Floyd is also much smaller.

    He's a pro MMA athlete. I would give him .01 percent chance, about the same as I'd give myself.

    BTW, Floyd is not much smaller. Height they are about the same, and there would be a weight to be made, not that it would make a blind bit of difference to Floyd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭BillyHasMates


    I highly doubt the fight will happen. Mayweather has his money made from boxing and stands to gain nothing professionally by fighting McGregor. McGregor wants the fight as he knows it would earn him a nice fortune. I think Mayweather is just teasing the fans by suggesting the fight is possible.

    If it did happen Mayweather would destroy McGregor. One of the best boxers of all time versus an MMA fighter who can strike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭The real mccoy 91


    Floyd via DQ
    Gamebred wrote:
    Floyd is a great defensive fighter but he hasnt hurt anybody with a single punch in years he'd try jab his way to victory but McGregor's left hand is one of the the best shots in combat sports history if he went the boxing route he'd be world champion now easily.


    Oh wow I would love to hear the reasoning why mcgregor would be a world champion around his weight class he would have to beat canelo or ggg and if you don't think Floyd is a big puncher these guys most certainly are. One of the stupidest statements I've heard


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Oh wow I would love to hear the reasoning why mcgregor would be a world champion around his weight class he would have to beat canelo or ggg and if you don't think Floyd is a big puncher these guys most certainly are. One of the stupidest statements I've heard



    Yeah easily if he had of went boxing with his work ethic and fundamentals he'd of been a success,


    Pro boxing is littered with human punch bags Canelo and GGG look at their records 90&% of their wins and stoppages are roofers and part time security men.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭The real mccoy 91


    Floyd via DQ
    Gamebred wrote:
    Yeah easily if he had of went boxing with his work ethic and fundamentals he'd of been a success,

    Gamebred wrote:
    Pro boxing is littered with human punch bags Canelo and GGG look at their records 90&% of their wins and stoppages are roofers and part time security men.

    Do you really think it's as easy as "oh I think I wanna be a boxer and become a world champion?" I don't care who it is and how hard they work it is just not that easy. Yes mcgregor can throw a decent punch but that doesn't automatically make you world champion class.

    Right take ggg in his last say 5 fights he stopped kell Brook and handed him his first loss aswell as handing wade Martin Murray and willie Monroe Jr the first tkos of their careers. Long story short one punch will get you nowhere and mcgregor is nowhere near good enough defensively and and at protecting himself to make waves in any boxing division


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Do you really think it's as easy as "oh I think I wanna be a boxer and become a world champion?" I don't care who it is and how hard they work it is just not that easy. Yes mcgregor can throw a decent punch but that doesn't automatically make you world champion class.

    Right take ggg in his last say 5 fights he stopped kell Brook and handed him his first loss aswell as handing wade Martin Murray and willie Monroe Jr the first tkos of their careers. Long story short one punch will get you nowhere and mcgregor is nowhere near good enough defensively and and at protecting himself to make waves in any boxing division


    Well GGG isnt 40 years old off for 2 years and with no ko power? were not talking about a fight with big hitters here Mayweather doesnt hit hard McGregor is the only one who would be winning via ko/tko here, and with a non bias ref he could win on points imo.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Floyd via DQ
    Gamebred wrote: »
    .............McGregor's................ if he went the boxing route he'd be world champion now easily.

    He wouldn't make the Irish Olympic team.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Augeo wrote: »
    He wouldn't make the Irish Olympic team.


    We are hypothetically speaking, I cant say for 100% certain he would've same way you cant say he wouldn't of, his timing in particular lead me to believe he'd of went far on that alone to match his work ethic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    Floyd via DQ
    McGregor got beaten up pretty soundly in sparring by a welterweight who was fed and destroyed by a young Errol Spence. Now Spence will eventually become a massive name in the sport but it was a pretty routine win for him, nothing outstanding. Conor has no chance in a standard Boxing fight. Listening to Rogan and Schaub comment on how McGregor has a chance just shows how stupid a lot of the MMA diehards are and how ignorant they are towards Boxing. It was the same crap with Rousey. Conor just isn't a good boxer by Boxing standards. "Oh but if he lands", dumb f*ck Floyd has been hit flush less than five times his whole career against a tonne of HOFers. How is he going to land? "Oh but Floyd hasn't knocked anyone out in years". Raw power isn't the only way to stop someone. Floyd is deadly accurate and no matter how good your chin is, when you're being pasted over and over again by a boxer who is 100 levels above you, you can easily be pulled out of there. If Conor landed a clean jab on Floyd I'd be thoroughly impressed. For the sake of the health of the two sports I hope this farce never happens.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭The real mccoy 91


    Floyd via DQ
    Gamebred wrote:
    Well GGG isnt 40 years old off for 2 years and with no ko power? were not talking about a fight with big hitters here Mayweather doesnt hit hard McGregor is the only one who would be winning via ko/tko here, and with a non bias ref he could win on points imo.


    For starters floyd isn't quite 40 yet but you were the one that brought that "he'd be a world champion now easily" I didn't say floyd would knock him out but he would pick him off as he pleases and win easily mayweather has fought much bigger punchers than mcgregor and made them look silly.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Floyds 40 off for 2 years and has no power, wouldnt be a walk over lads stop dreaming he'd be clinched up by McGregor and eat hayemakers like Maidana did.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    Floyd via DQ
    Gamebred wrote: »
    Floyds 40 off for 2 years and has no power, wouldnt be a walk over lads stop dreaming he'd be clinched up by McGregor and eat hayemakers like Maidana did.

    You're the one dreaming. How in the world is Conor McGregor going to clinch Floyd? Just lol if you think inside game in MMA is applicable to inside game in Boxing. Inside fighting is incredibly hard to master in Boxing, something few if any ever accomplish. McGregor cannot even do the basics in Boxing properly, let alone tie up and work a defensive wizard like Floyd in the inside.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Burial. wrote: »
    You're the one dreaming. How in the world is Conor McGregor going to clinch Floyd? Just lol if you think inside game in MMA is applicable to inside game in Boxing. Inside fighting is incredibly hard to master in Boxing, something few if any ever accomplish. McGregor cannot even do the basics in Boxing properly, let alone tie up and work a defensive wizard like Floyd in the inside.


    What basics cant he do? he would one punch ko anyone near his weight in boxing if his left hand from the combat gods landed, Brook Thurman Broner Garcia.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    Floyd via DQ
    Gamebred wrote: »
    What basics cant he do? he would one punch ko anyone near his weight in boxing if his left hand from the combat gods landed, Brook Thurman Broner Garcia.

    What basics can he do? McGregor has a non-existent jab, something needed against any top boxer but especially Floyd. He has no proper defence, he seems to roll his head back to try and avoid punches which is suicide against a proper boxer. He leaves his hands out too long after he punches, that won't work against arguably the best counterpuncher of all time. He has no body attack. McGregor's foot movement is not suited to Boxing at all, that MMA/karate movement sh*t will not work in a square ring. Floyd is very evasive, some of the best men at cutting off the ring couldn't get to him, just how does McGregor cut off the ring? You cannot walk Floyd down as he is gone before you even begin to set a rhythm. Floyd is not a D level boxer with limited boxing ability like Mendes and Alvarez. Floyd took punches from much bigger punchers than McGregor and took them well. And again, how does McGregor land on him? How does he set up the left hand? Seriously, enlighten me and maybe you can tell Manny Pacquiao, De La Hoya, Cotto, Hatton and many more who simply had no idea either back then or now. The old one in a million shot just doesn't happen against a guy like Floyd, it just doesn't.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    It's astonishing that people think McGregor would have a snowball's chance in hell against Mayweather or Pacquiao or anyone similar. People just don't get how many levels there are in boxing, and that McGregor is a complete novice.

    Guys like Floyd, Pacquiao, Marquez are certified hall of fame level. The most significant fighters of their generation.

    Beneath them you have elite level champions, Crawford, Golovkin, Bradley, Lomachenko, Ward, Kovalev. These guys beat everyone else and may be hall of famers themselves someday.

    Then you have top contenders/title holders. Guys who have belts but who have never ruled a division and are not going to be amongst the very best of their era.

    Then you have fringe contenders, the guys fighting eliminators and working their way towards a shot at one of the alphabet belts.

    Then you have the 'continental title' guys. The European/intercontinental/NABF/OPBF type guys who are maybe top 20-25 in their division. They'll never win a 'world' title unless a promoter has a crazy plan or they get hold of a WBU type title.

    Beneath them you have a lot of 'international level' guys. They are in the 30-70/80 ranking bracket depending on the the division. Strong domestic level fighters who beat similar level journeymen from overseas. May get a continental title some day and may be brought in for tune-ups.

    Now you're at 'domestic level'. Normally part-timers. Good amateurs who may have won national titles and even been on national teams. Fill the lower spots on undercards at York Hall and the like.

    And finally you have the 'club level' fighter. Ordinary guys with a bit of talent who fight similar lads from other parts of the country. This is the level Conor McGregor would fit in at. He would have less skill than most of the guys he faces, but as an elite athlete he would outlast a lot of them. Would probably KO a few but would get knocked down plenty himself. With a lot of work he could climb to the national title level.


    This is why it's so laughable to boxing fans to hear people talk about Mayweather vs McGregor. The distance between the two is enormous. It could never be spanned. It's way beyond a mismatch, it's a circus act.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭The real mccoy 91


    Floyd via DQ
    Gamebred wrote:
    What basics cant he do? he would one punch ko anyone near his weight in boxing if his left hand from the combat gods landed, Brook Thurman Broner Garcia.


    Basics won't get you very far you can't judge how good of a boxer he would be by fighting mma. It's such a different ball game how would his movement be in a ring as opposed to an octagon? How would gloves suit him? What happens when he is backed into a corner? Broner is very average he wouldn't beat thurman or Brook let alone mayweather.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Burial. wrote: »
    What basics can he do? McGregor has a non-existent jab, something needed against any top boxer but especially Floyd. He has no proper defence, he seems to roll his head back to try and avoid punches which is suicide against a proper boxer. He leaves his hands out too long after he punches, that won't work against arguably the best counterpuncher of all time. He has no body attack. McGregor's foot movement is not suited to Boxing at all, that MMA/karate movement sh*t will not work in a square ring. Floyd is very evasive, some of the best men at cutting off the ring couldn't get to him, just how does McGregor cut off the ring? You cannot walk Floyd down as he is gone before you even begin to set a rhythm. Floyd is not a D level boxer with limited boxing ability like Mendes and Alvarez. Floyd took punches from much bigger punchers than McGregor and took them well. And again, how does McGregor land on him? How does he set up the left hand? Seriously, enlighten me and maybe you can tell Manny Pacquiao, De La Hoya, Cotto, Hatton and many more who simply had no idea either back then or now. The old one in a million shot just doesn't happen against a guy like Floyd, it just doesn't.



    You are going on like hes in his prime though, you need to get your head around the fact father time hits everyone the gods dont care how good you are when the body cant do what the mind is telling it you get hurt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭The real mccoy 91


    Floyd via DQ
    "but wow Floyd was hard to hit. I couldn't of hit him with a handful of confetti" Ricky Hatton


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Yeah a prime Floyd against a party animal with no discipline not hard to see why that happened really Hatton wasnt a proper athlete fighting a Rusty 40 year old.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    Floyd via DQ
    Gamebred wrote: »
    You are going on like hes in his prime though, you need to get your head around the fact father time hits everyone the gods dont care how good you are when the body cant do what the mind is telling it you get hurt.

    Floyd hasn't taken much if any punishment his entire career. He's one of the cleanest living athletes and extremely professional. Doesn't drink and doesn't smoke and never has. Do you think Floyd just hung up the gloves and hasn't stepped foot in his gym since September? Floyd still looks in the same shape as he was when he was actively fighting, he's still training. What evidence of father time knocking is there? He still looked the fastest and the smartest fighter in the world a year and a half ago at his last fight. Father time just doesn't go "beep beep times up". It's a gradual thing, something that hasn't effected Floyd much if at all.

    And besides we're not talking about him fighting an elite guy or an up and coming young guy with the basic fundamentals down and an actual punchers chance. We're talking about a guy who couldn't become Irish Boxing champion if he tried. We're talking about a guy that was cannon fodder for a complete journeyman in sparring. I'm still waiting for an answer on see how McGregor even closes the distance on Floyd, let alone land a clean shot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    Floyd via DQ
    Gamebred wrote: »
    Yeah a prime Floyd against a party animal with no discipline not hard to see why that happened really Hatton wasnt a proper athlete fighting a Rusty 40 year old.

    This kid actually thinks McGregor is better than a prime Ricky Hatton. Jesus this is tragic lads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    Burial. wrote: »
    This kid actually thinks McGregor is better than a prime Ricky Hatton. Jesus this is tragic lads.

    McGregor is significantly inferior to a post-prime Matthew Hatton.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 664 ✭✭✭price690


    Lads I am amazed that you all took the bait I really am.

    There's no way that MMA poster isn't being tongue in cheek in his comments or else on a wind up.

    I mean there's simply no debate to be had about it. Steven Donnell comprehensively beats Mcgregor. The guy wouldn't win an Irish title let alone beat Mayweather.

    What happens when he lands? Landing on Eddie Alvarez or the like is all well and good, doing the same to a pro boxer (let alone one who hasn't been caught flush by some future HOFers) is just not happening.

    The guy got a boxing licenice in California to show his bosses at the UFC that he has options other than them. When he gets one in Nevada maybe it's indicative of a future fight.

    I'd imagine it's Mayweather chasing the fight really, $100million for the biggest mismatch of his career. That definitely sounds like a Mayweather move.

    McGregor is engaged in a power play with his bosses probably looking for shares, and is keeping himself in the news with his antics with Mayweather who himself probably fancies an easy nights work for huge money.

    Anyone who even thinks there's a slight chance of a McGregor upset must have been dropped on their head, even his most loyal waistcoat wearing, man bun sporting swaggering fans do not believe he would have a hope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Henno30 wrote: »
    y.

    And finally you have the 'club level' fighter. Ordinary guys with a bit of talent who fight similar lads from other parts of the country. This is the level Conor McGregor would fit in at. He would have less skill than most of the guys he faces, but as an elite athlete he would outlast a lot of them. Would probably KO a few but would get knocked down plenty himself. With a lot of work he could climb to the national title level.

    .

    How would he at this time outlast them? MMA cardio and boxing cardio are not he same. Without specific boxing training I am not sure how you can say he outlasts them.


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