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Executive Officer Campaign 2016

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    #602
    keepkeyyellow
    Registered Users Posts: 705 ✭✭✭keepkeyyellow


    bronzesheep wrote: »
    Hi all,

    I made it through to the next stage. Reading through the posts someone mentioned that if you are currently in the civil service and you are successful then you could stay in your current office.

    I'm a CO right now, but I was only eligible to apply for the open competition. If I were successful, would I have the option of staying in my current office or how does it work?

    Thanks!

    Don't know the process but I get the feeling that if someone high up likes you you might. I know of a girl who was a TCO in a department and got high up in the CO comp and they managed to keep her on


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    #603
    bronzesheep
    Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭bronzesheep


    I've passed probation, but I didn't have the two years of service by the closing date, so I could only apply for the open, shame!


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    #604
    eroc79
    Registered Users Posts: 462 ✭✭eroc79


    bronzesheep wrote: »
    Hi all,

    I made it through to the next stage. Reading through the posts someone mentioned that if you are currently in the civil service and you are successful then you could stay in your current office.

    I'm a CO right now, but I was only eligible to apply for the open competition. If I were successful, would I have the option of staying in my current office or how does it work?

    Thanks!
    I know where i work they try hard to hold on to people if it's possible but they can't keep you if there's no positions available. There's also ratios that they need to keep ie. so many from the open and so many from the interdepartmental


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    #605
    caarp
    Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭caarp


    Chocolate Teapot wrote: »
    caarp wrote: »
     Wonder if you're called into the tests based on merit placing or last name?  Were you successful yourself?

    They call you in order of merit! :)
    Cheers Teapot.


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    #606
    bronzesheep
    Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭bronzesheep


    One other question, the CO panel didn't have an e-tray exercise as part of the process. Is that definitely part of the EO assessment? At what point in the process do they run that, before interview stage or after? What does it involve and is there anywhere online you can practice? Thanks!


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    #607
    kwestfan08
    Registered Users Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭kwestfan08


    Finished 1052 in the order or merit. So through to the next stage.

    Feel like I'm fighting with just one hand though because my questionnaire result sucked. 42 in it, 72 in the verbal and 57 in the numerical.

    The 42 feels a bit like an anchor weighing down any score I get but it's the same questionaire for everyone I suppose.


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    #608
    caarp
    Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭caarp


    kwestfan08 wrote: »
    Finished 1052 in the order or merit. So through to the next stage.

    Feel like I'm fighting with just one hand though because my questionnaire result sucked. 42 in it, 72 in the verbal and 57 in the numerical.

    The 42 feels a bit like an anchor weighing down any score I get but it's the same questionaire for everyone I suppose.
    This is interesting.  Here are my scores and I was placed in the same order of merit as you:
    [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] been placed 1052 on the order of merit. [/font]
    [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The maximum score for each test is 80[/font]
    [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Your scores in the tests are as follows:[/font]
    [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
     
    Assessment Questionnaire                                               
    Your Score     52      Qualifying Score                   40

     
    Verbal Reasoning                                                       
    Your Score     62      Qualifying Score                   40

     
    Numerical Reasoning                                                    
    Your Score     55      Qualifying Score                   40[/font]


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    #609
    connectq
    Registered Users Posts: 115 ✭✭connectq


    For those wondering when the next stage is please refer to your results message in public jobs... message states that it is intended to call people who placed up to and including.... on the order of merit to stage 2 of the selection process which is due to commence on Tues 21st February.

    I presume we will all get a message in the next couple of days with our test date. Time to get practising


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    #610
    kwestfan08
    Registered Users Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭kwestfan08


    caarp wrote: »
    This is interesting.  Here are my scores and I was placed in the same order of merit as you:
    [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] been placed 1052 on the order of merit. [/font]
    [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The maximum score for each test is 80[/font]
    [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Your scores in the tests are as follows:[/font]
    [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
     
    Assessment Questionnaire                                               
    Your Score     52      Qualifying Score                   40

     
    Verbal Reasoning                                                       
    Your Score     62      Qualifying Score                   40

     
    Numerical Reasoning                                                    
    Your Score     55      Qualifying Score                   40[/font]

    Yeah that makes sense. We both outscored each other by the same amount in the questionaire and verbal so the same score would mean the same order of merit.


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    #611
    Pronto63
    Registered Users Posts: 363 ✭✭Pronto63


    Placed 474 in open and 158 in interdepartmental.

    Big change from last time when I placed 5917 in the open!! :P

    Best of luck to all and for those that aren't happy with their results head to Easons and check out the books on these tests.


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    #612
    caarp
    Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭caarp


    kwestfan08 wrote: »
    caarp wrote: »
    This is interesting.  Here are my scores and I was placed in the same order of merit as you:
    [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] been placed 1052 on the order of merit. [/font]
    [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The maximum score for each test is 80[/font]
    [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Your scores in the tests are as follows:[/font]
    [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
     
    Assessment Questionnaire                                               
    Your Score     52      Qualifying Score                   40

     
    Verbal Reasoning                                                       
    Your Score     62      Qualifying Score                   40

     
    Numerical Reasoning                                                    
    Your Score     55      Qualifying Score                   40[/font]

    Yeah that makes sense. We both outscored each other by the same amount in the questionaire and verbal so the same score would mean the same order of merit.
    Exactly, it's just interesting that the assessment and verbal answers are rated the same value.  Here we go again!


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    #613
    IrishMary89
    Registered Users Posts: 14 ✭IrishMary89


    Yup there were also a lot of posters here who wanted to know where they could do a course in stage 2. Why would you need to, you are only repeating what you already did.
    doc11 wrote: »
    You can get a mate to sit the questionnaire and then cheat at the verbal and numeric(screenshots). The margins are so tight between candidates there should be a completely new set of questionnaire and verbal/numeric tests at stage2 Far too many cheat it's a joke. There was a Poster that repeatedly asked is it the same set of questions for stage2 who topped his region, I wonder why?

    A cattlecall in the RDS would sort this out too.


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    #614
    red face dave
    Registered Users Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭red face dave


    Pronto63 wrote: »
    Placed 474 in open and 158 in interdepartmental.

    Big change from last time when I placed 5917 in the open!! :P

    Best of luck to all and for those that aren't happy with their results head to Easons and check out the books on these tests.

    Any book in particular that you would suggest ???


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    #615
    It wasnt me123
    Registered Users Posts: 1,734 ✭✭✭It wasnt me123


    I'm delighted I received 474 on the open competition.

    Does anyone know where the second stage tests are to be held around the country or are they all in Dublin?


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    #616
    yabadabado
    Registered Users Posts: 16,524 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    It wasnt me123 wrote: »
    I'm delighted I received 474 on the open competition.

    Does anyone know where the second stage tests are to be held around the country or are they all in Dublin?
    All in PAS office in Dublin(Abbey St.)


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    #617
    Cailin1234
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭Cailin1234


    Scored in the 200's. Was just reading the eligibility criteria there. Anyone know if a L6 in payroll or a L6 in Digital Tech, Business & Design would suffice? Just skimmed through the form & saw leaving cert so I assumed I'd be ok. Read it properly & saw that you need 5 honours. I only got 4!


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    #618
    3ke6pn2v0zwsi7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭3ke6pn2v0zwsi7


    kwestfan08 wrote: »
    Finished 1052 in the order or merit. So through to the next stage.

    Feel like I'm fighting with just one hand though because my questionnaire result sucked. 42 in it, 72 in the verbal and 57 in the numerical.

    The 42 feels a bit like an anchor weighing down any score I get but it's the same questionaire for everyone I suppose.
    I placed 1784; Assessment 48 and Verbal 62. I'm delighted to have qualified. it's difficult to figure out the placement weighting though.


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    #619
    Areas
    Registered Users Posts: 441 ✭✭Areas


    Anyone know why they've taken the whole country together instead of by region?
    I scored 54 in the Questionnaire and 51 in the Verbal and was placed 3080. Got 61 in the Numerical.
    I'm hoping that when they filter the candidates for the Irish stream that I'll get moved up a bit.


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    #620
    connectq
    Registered Users Posts: 115 ✭✭connectq


    They don't put people into regions until they are placing people on panels after passing their interviews.


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    #621
    Areas
    Registered Users Posts: 441 ✭✭Areas


    Ah OK, I was just going by the CO campaigns. When they give the results they give it by region.


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    #622
    LouD2016
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 229 ✭✭LouD2016


    carnie wrote: »
    Failed the numerical by 2 points. I knew I did **** this time around

    Missed out by one point on the numerical - its so sickening


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    #623
    3ke6pn2v0zwsi7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭3ke6pn2v0zwsi7


    I am doing Irish assessment for co stream next week. I don't know whether that might carry forward to assessment for Irish stream in EO.


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    #624
    Cannister
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭Cannister


    Scored 39 in the Assessment Questionnaire, how I managed that I don't know! Passed the Verbal Test and Numerical Test no problem. Sickened.


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    #625
    Chocolate Teapot
    Registered Users Posts: 187 ✭✭Chocolate Teapot


    In the 2014 EO competition many people jumped up the ranking significantly after the supervised tests...it weeds out people who cheated at the unsupervised stage. So there's definitely scope to improve your ranking :)


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    #626
    Wheety
    Registered Users Posts: 5,510 ✭✭✭Wheety


    Areas wrote: »
    Anyone know why they've taken the whole country together instead of by region?
    I scored 54 in the Questionnaire and 51 in the Verbal and was placed 3080. Got 61 in the Numerical.
    I'm hoping that when they filter the candidates for the Irish stream that I'll get moved up a bit.

    I thought they'd do it differently this time as last time they had to keep calling batches to interview, just so they could fill Dublin vacancies, and the regional folks had no chance of getting a job.


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    #627
    Wheety
    Registered Users Posts: 5,510 ✭✭✭Wheety


    Chocolate Teapot wrote: »
    In the 2014 EO competition many people jumped up the ranking significantly after the supervised tests...it weeds out people who cheated at the unsupervised stage. So there's definitely scope to improve your ranking :)

    But it also goes against people who did very well in the Verbal but only ok at the Questionnaire.

    They're more likely to drop against people who scored highly in the Questionnaire but not so great in the Verbal.


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    #628
    eimaj18
    Registered Users Posts: 442 ✭✭eimaj18


    Wheety wrote: »
    Chocolate Teapot wrote: »
    In the 2014 EO competition many people jumped up the ranking significantly after the supervised tests...it weeds out people who cheated at the unsupervised stage. So there's definitely scope to improve your ranking :)

    But it also goes against people who did very well in the Verbal but only ok at the Questionnaire.

    They're more likely to drop against people who scored highly in the Questionnaire but not so great in the Verbal.

    I'd say that the assessment questionnaire is the most important one as it grades you as a manager. EOs are junior managers so they need to see if we will make good decisions on albeit hypothetical situations. It sucks and it really is a weeding out exercise but unfortunately that's their model at the moment. 😞


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    #629
    etar
    Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭etar


    LouD2016 wrote: »
    Missed out by one point on the numerical - its so sickening

    Take some comfort in my scenario
    Did brilliant in the numerical and did well in the other 2 but too far down the rankings to be called 😞


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    #630
    garrincha62
    Registered Users Posts: 377 ✭✭garrincha62


    Everleigh Great Verdict wrote: »
    I placed 1784; Assessment 48 and Verbal 62. I'm delighted to have qualified. it's difficult to figure out the placement weighting though.

    Got 55 in the assessment and 53 in the verbal so that's 108 points. Placed 2267. Fine margins. I wonder will they go further down the order of merit in due course...


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    #631
    Mike Guide 69
    Registered Users Posts: 6,511 ✭✭✭Mike Guide 69


    Passed the verbal and numerical well but failed the questionnaire by 2 points, so didnt make it to the next round, well p*ssed off with that, as i put a lot of time and effort into the verbal and numerical pieces along with the questionnaire assessments examples on other websites.

    I dont know, its hard to put into perspective that you might have individuals that do well in both verbal and numercial but only to fall at the pyschometric phase (by minimum) , I fully understand the rational behind the pyschometric tests, but you often wonder in their terms of ranking and scoring, what is the right answer??

    Anyway congrats on those who passed, best of luck in the next round....


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